Skycentrism: We live inside the Earth! Geodesy.

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Are the stars and other planets also flat? And if so, why do they look so perfectly spherical when I look at them through my telescope?
 
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Flat ? Why would they be flat ? What does it have to do with the horizon ?
 
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Well, I'm simply suggesting that if every other known planet in space is spherical, one might assume that this planet on which we reside might follow suit. Yet, you, of course, are suggesting it's flat. So the Earth is flat, but every thing else is spherical. Why do you suppose that is?
 
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1disciple said:
Well, I'm simply suggesting that if every other known planet in space is spherical, one might assume that this planet on which we reside might follow suit. Yet, you, of course, are suggesting it's flat. So the Earth is flat, but every thing else is spherical. Why do you suppose that is?
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:eek: The horizon is flat not the Earth. The Earth is concave. Watch the video before you post anything.
 
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:eek: The horizon is flat not the Earth. The Earth is concave. Watch the video before you post anything.
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Ah, I see. Sort of like a flying, stellar pie crust with a flat topping of horizen.

That still doesn't explain why every other planetary body we see doesn't happen to follow that sort of geometry.
 
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Ah, I see. Sort of like a flying, stellar pie crust with a flat topping of horizen.

That still doesn't explain why every other planetary body we see doesn't happen to follow that sort of geometry.
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I doubt you understand anything at all :)
 
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I doubt you understand anything at all :)
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Why do you suppose Jupiter looks so spherical when I look at it with my telescope when I go to monthly amateur astonomy club meetings?
 
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................ this thread just proves anyone can make a youtube video and claim to be Christian...........
 
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So out of these bodies that are verifiably spherical, the Earth is the only body that not only does not follow suit, but is freakish to the point of breaking the laws of gravity with a 'flat' horizen, which would imply a flat atmospheric layer on top of a concave Earth.

It is a true saying that Ptolomy was far more accurate in his cosmology using 2000 year old semiarcs with a geocentric universe.

If the horizen is flat, why does the Prophet Isaiah state that God 'is seated above the Circle of the Earth'? (Is. 40:22)

If the Earth is Circular, as the Prophet states, how is it that you say it is flat, unless you are suggesting the Earth is a two dimensional object in three dimensional space/time?
 
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So out of these bodies that are verifiably spherical, the Earth is the only body that not only does not follow suit, but is freakish to the point of breaking the laws of gravity with a 'flat' horizen, which would imply a flat atmospheric layer on top of a concave Earth.

It is a true saying that Ptolomy was far more accurate in his cosmology using 2000 year old semiarcs with a geocentric universe.

If the horizen is flat, why does the Prophet Isaiah state that God 'is seated above the Circle of the Earth'? (Is. 40:22)

If the Earth is Circular, as the Prophet states, how is it that you say it is flat, unless you are suggesting the Earth is a two dimensional object in three dimensional space/time?
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I suggest you watch the video again.
 
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Well, I'm simply suggesting that if every other known planet in space is spherical, one might assume that this planet on which we reside might follow suit. Yet, you, of course, are suggesting it's flat. So the Earth is flat, but every thing else is spherical. Why do you suppose that is?
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The Earth is not a planet. The word planet comes from the Greek, planasthai (I believe), to wander. As the Earth does not wander, but stays firmly in place, it is inaccurate to call it a planet. God created the Heavens and the Earth. The Earth is clearly special, being one of the two entities God mentions He created in the first verses of Genesis. Why should the shape of the Earth conform to the shapes of less significant objects God later creates in the Heavens? I might go on safari and see only antelope, but that does not make me an antelope.

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If the horizen is flat, why does the Prophet Isaiah state that God 'is seated above the Circle of the Earth'? (Is. 40:22)
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In case you haven't realised, a circle is flat. A sphere, however, is spherical. :D I'm not saying dogmatically the Earth is flat, but I think this fits the scriptures more easily than a spherical Earth. I don't believe a flat Earth contradicts any scripture.
 
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If the Earth was flat, the horizon would not exist either. As well as with convex Earth. We would never be able to see the horizon on our eye level.

Etymology of word 'circle' in Greek means a circle which..surrounds something that is inside.
 
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The Earth is not a planet. The word planet comes from the Greek, planasthai (I believe), to wander. As the Earth does not wander, but stays firmly in place, it is inaccurate to call it a planet. God created the Heavens and the Earth. The Earth is clearly special, being one of the two entities God mentions He created in the first verses of Genesis. Why should the shape of the Earth conform to the shapes of less significant objects God later creates in the Heavens? I might go on safari and see only antelope, but that does not make me an antelope.

In case you haven't realised, a circle is flat. A sphere, however, is spherical. :D I'm not saying dogmatically the Earth is flat, but I think this fits the scriptures more easily than a spherical Earth. I don't believe a flat Earth contradicts any scripture.
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In case you haven't noticed, חוּג does not just mean circle, it can mean any circular object, including three dimensional spheres. It can also mean vault and horizen. But one thing it cannot mean is 'flat', in case you haven't noticed.

Strong's Hebrew: 2329. חוּג (chug) -- vault, horizon
 
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If the Earth was flat, the horizon would not exist either. As well as with convex Earth. We would never be able to see the horizon on our eye level.

Etymology of word 'circle' in Greek means a circle which..surrounds something that is inside.
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I suggest you take 6th grade Geometry and some pre-first-year Koine Greek.
 
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If the Earth was flat, the horizon would not exist either. As well as with convex Earth. We would never be able to see the horizon on our eye level.
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Whether the Earth is flat or spherical, the horizon exists due to perspective. Things in the distance appear smaller and smaller until they are too small for the eye to resolve, and appear to the observer to blend with other objects to the observer. The horizon is simply the apparent merging of the Earth and sky, due to perspective effect, because these are so far from the observer. This is why you can see further with a telescope.
 
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Whether the Earth is flat or spherical, the horizon exists due to perspective. Things in the distance appear smaller and smaller until they are too small for the eye to resolve, and appear to the observer to blend with other objects to the observer. The horizon is simply the apparent merging of the Earth and sky, due to perspective effect, because these are so far from the observer. This is why you can see further with a telescope.
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So the Earth is neither a planet, nor does it revolve around the Sun. All the planets are spherical and revolve around the Sun. But somehow the Earth, which is part of this Solar system presumably, is concave with a flat horizen and the planets (all spherical) revolve around the spherical sun, which all stay together based upon the laws of gravity while the earth stays together against those same laws of gravity.

Makes perfect sense. I'll simply step out of this thread quietly and leave you two to play at the top of the 5th floor psycho ward.
 
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In case you haven't noticed, חוּג does not just mean circle, it can mean any circular object, including three dimensional spheres. It can also mean vault and horizen. But one thing it cannot mean is 'flat', in case you haven't noticed.
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I think you are playing a semantics game. A circle is essentially flat. Obviously, to exist in a real 3 dimensional world, a circle must have some depth. No one who believes the Earth is flat believes it to be without depth. However, they believe the shape is not spherical like a ball, but rectangular or circular (with depth). Some belief the Earth to be infinite (and flat, with depth!), but I think that is more a non-Christian belief. I believe the Heavens and Earth are finite, because they are created entities. Only God is infinite.

I don't think either belief contradicts the scripture you gave from Isaiah.
 
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