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Jullianna

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Yesterday was the third time that I've gone to college for a "first day of school"

It took everything in me to simply go.

I have no words to describe the wave of fear I felt as my mind rattled off excuses that might seem acceptable as to why I simply couldn't make it. But I had none. I'm not sick or otherwise hindered from attending.

I've done this before. I've gone here before. I know how this works. I'm good at this. I can do this... I hope.

Last time I was overconfident, even a bit arrogant and my grades reflected that. They were good but not stellar. Stellar takes dedication. Stellar is the Tortoise, and I've pretty much always been the hare. Don't complain about the homework when I Ace your tests, Mr Professor.


But its all because of one class. "Aims of Argumentation" A class about Critical thinking, Logic, Reasoning, Debate and Arguing. This is what it says in the course description. How could I possibly go wrong here?

I was sweating bullets because the Prof is an English Major. That was all I knew going into the class. Frankly If I had known when I signed up, I would have skipped this class entirely. All of my worst fears were confirmed as we went through the Syllabus today.

It would not matter what the subject was, She is a master of assigning busy work. She values Appearance and Organization of Notes over substance and mastery of material. We have a minimum 3 pages of typed 2 column notes to deliver each day that correlates to our reading homework. These must include 5 direct quotes, as well as our thoughts, inferences and questions in our head that occur as we read the text. (yes, thoughts as we read the text)

This is why I Loathe English Majors. If we are going to have a class on Formal Logic and Argument, let the instructor be a Communications major, Philosophy major, or Math Major.

Its as if the class was designed for people who try hard, but can't learn. Their E for effort, will translate into an A+. Meanwhile, I will lucky to escape with a B-, I guarantee it. She even said the one phrase I hate hearing more than any other words that could come out of a Professor's mouth, "Do you want to teach my class?" She said it defensively and rhetorically, but to another student because the Professor asked a question, and the student answered it correctly and quickly.

I have a week to decide if I want to trade it in for another class. As of now, my hand is clutching the Eject Lever, hoping that I find some Courage not to pull it. As of today, I am simply out of my mind afraid.





In other News my Sophomore Sociology class: 5 quizzes, 2 major tests in addition to Lecture and Group Participation = Me getting an instant A+. If you multiplied this Formula times 18 credits divided into 6 Subjects, I would look like a Greek god of Academic Study.
Some classes are armadillos on the train tracks of life. Don't eject it. Leave it looking like a mulched melon in your path. :)
 
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kenthomas27

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Ms. Catlyn - I gotta ask - how do you even remember all that? That by itself is remarkable. I almost got through all your 'rant' but was about to have an accident, you know, and was pretty sure you weren't going to clean that one up and all, so I bunny hopped to the RR. So you know, I don't think that helps much.
 

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Applied for a college and my first scholarship today. I'm growing up... eek. I need to stop this. lol
 
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MissCris

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I think today will be better. I FEEL better, so far anyway. I think I was sick yesterday.

Last night, I got stuck talking to the person who was treating me like an idiot for dropping out of school. If he wasn't family, it wouldn't have bothered me so much- but, as I married his son, and his son thinks I'm more than good enough, I guess I just feel like HE should at least trust his son's judgment on the matter. Even if he never really likes me, the least he could do is be civil to me.

You'd think.

But, he is the grandfather to my children, and he wanted to spend time with my son last night, so I went. And he and his wife started out being so very rude to me that I almost left. They kept asking me questions about the kids, which I answered- well, even. And I was totally ignored and talked over. And then, just like always, the subject of school came up. Seriously, it's like these people don't have anything on their minds except school and work. Because HER grown kids are all in college right now, and HER kids are brilliant, one of them is a chemical engineer (or something...gosh, I don't even know, I tune out a lot).

These people act like my husband is a failure, or less important, because he chose to learn a trade over going to college.

Because he chose to marry me instead of going to college.

They like to frequently imply that my husband should have stayed in school to learn computer programming, and that he would have had a higher paying job now, and that he messed up by deciding to get married when he did. They like to imply that my husband has no ambition, that he'll never be able to "live comfortably" in his line of work, and that children were the last thing he needed just at this point in his life. Like he should have waited another 10 years. Like he should have ditched me at the earliest opportunity and found someone THEY would approve of.

Basically, it all comes down to this: They think I ruined my husband's life. That I tricked him into getting married somehow. That I'm not good enough, or smart enough, and that I don't look right for him. My step-mother-in-law buys me clothes from time to time...which would be a nice gesture, if they were ever the sort of clothes I actually wear. Instead, she buys me things a size too small, and far too trendy. She's trying to dress me the way she dresses. She frequently lets me know that I need to go get my hair done- get some highlights, get it styled, it's just so...long...and you know, unfashionable.

After they started in about how wonderful HER kids are, and had gotten in a few subtle jabs about my husband, and a few more about my lack of intelligence and style (it's amazing how they can fit all that into one conversation), I kind of lost my temper. I started bragging about my husband's promotion, how he is totally indispensable to his work place. I also sarcastically apologized for looking like I do, for being so tall, for not being some super skinny, super-model type person.

I don't remember what all I said to them. I rounded up my kiddo and stormed off, back through their yard, back through the gate, back through my yard, into my house.

My husband took one look at me and said, "You don't have to go over there anymore. Seriously, they don't need to see our kids if they make you that angry. I'll tell my dad."

That was the second time in two days he's had my back against his own family.

To anyone who has never been married- you are probably not going to find someone whose entire family likes you. But, if that person loves you, and is on your side, then you've found a keeper.

 
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Catlynn

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Today is a million and five times more enjoyable than the last four days. 5:30am quiet time and coffee, a run, painting with 5 kiddos, outside climbing trees, building sand castles, and making mud brownies, knitting in a chair while the kids play together, a picnic...*sigh* This is what my days are USUALLY like. ^_^
 
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The sun is out. The weather is gorgeous. My chores are nearly finished and my meeting doesn't start until 7pm. Life is sweet. :)
 
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Last night, I got stuck talking to the person who was treating me like an idiot for dropping out of school. If he wasn't family, it wouldn't have bothered me so much- but, as I married his son, and his son thinks I'm more than good enough, I guess I just feel like HE should at least trust his son's judgment on the matter. Even if he never really likes me, the least he could do is be civil to me.

It never fails to disappoint me when parents place (their version of) success over happiness for their grown children.
 

Fenner

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I think today will be better. I FEEL better, so far anyway. I think I was sick yesterday.

Last night, I got stuck talking to the person who was treating me like an idiot for dropping out of school. If he wasn't family, it wouldn't have bothered me so much- but, as I married his son, and his son thinks I'm more than good enough, I guess I just feel like HE should at least trust his son's judgment on the matter. Even if he never really likes me, the least he could do is be civil to me.

You'd think.

But, he is the grandfather to my children, and he wanted to spend time with my son last night, so I went. And he and his wife started out being so very rude to me that I almost left. They kept asking me questions about the kids, which I answered- well, even. And I was totally ignored and talked over. And then, just like always, the subject of school came up. Seriously, it's like these people don't have anything on their minds except school and work. Because HER grown kids are all in college right now, and HER kids are brilliant, one of them is a chemical engineer (or something...gosh, I don't even know, I tune out a lot).

These people act like my husband is a failure, or less important, because he chose to learn a trade over going to college.

Because he chose to marry me instead of going to college.

They like to frequently imply that my husband should have stayed in school to learn computer programming, and that he would have had a higher paying job now, and that he messed up by deciding to get married when he did. They like to imply that my husband has no ambition, that he'll never be able to "live comfortably" in his line of work, and that children were the last thing he needed just at this point in his life. Like he should have waited another 10 years. Like he should have ditched me at the earliest opportunity and found someone THEY would approve of.

Basically, it all comes down to this: They think I ruined my husband's life. That I tricked him into getting married somehow. That I'm not good enough, or smart enough, and that I don't look right for him. My step-mother-in-law buys me clothes from time to time...which would be a nice gesture, if they were ever the sort of clothes I actually wear. Instead, she buys me things a size too small, and far too trendy. She's trying to dress me the way she dresses. She frequently lets me know that I need to go get my hair done- get some highlights, get it styled, it's just so...long...and you know, unfashionable.

After they started in about how wonderful HER kids are, and had gotten in a few subtle jabs about my husband, and a few more about my lack of intelligence and style (it's amazing how they can fit all that into one conversation), I kind of lost my temper. I started bragging about my husband's promotion, how he is totally indispensable to his work place. I also sarcastically apologized for looking like I do, for being so tall, for not being some super skinny, super-model type person.

I don't remember what all I said to them. I rounded up my kiddo and stormed off, back through their yard, back through the gate, back through my yard, into my house.

My husband took one look at me and said, "You don't have to go over there anymore. Seriously, they don't need to see our kids if they make you that angry. I'll tell my dad."

That was the second time in two days he's had my back against his own family.

To anyone who has never been married- you are probably not going to find someone whose entire family likes you. But, if that person loves you, and is on your side, then you've found a keeper.



My Husbands Dad would compare him to his younger sister all the time. His Dad passed away about 5 years ago. His Sister is not a boastful person, she's very nice and we get a long great. She has an associates degree and has done very well with it. My husband has a Bachelors Degree and unfortunately couldn't find a job in his field. He has a degree in Math, he wanted to be either a Statistician or an Actuary. He's a mail man, and he loves his job. It's a decent job to.

Before he started delivering mail we struggled. I worked a lot, he worked 2 jobs, he'd deliver newspapers in the morning then go to his full time job as a warehouse manager. I cut down my job to part time once my son was born. I couldn't see paying for child care and neither could he. I'd work on his days off. It was hard, we pinched pennies big time. But we got through it. His Dad would constantly boost up his sister, then say, well have you done, this, this or this. He thought my husband should use his degree, get a teaching certificate and become a teacher. He has no desire to teach. He does tutor family members from time to time, but that's it. He applied for jobs all over the country even Canada. I never saw anyone try so hard.

One time when something was said, I can't even remember now, I said something to his Mom the the effect of, Joan you raised a great son, he's a great dad and a great Husband. His Father struggled in his career and I think he wanted more for him. So many parents put their broken dreams on the backs of their children, it's not fair to do that to your child. Especially if you see your kid doing the best they can.

I loved my father in law and we did get a long very well most of the time. I agree with your husband don't go visit his father, maybe he will start getting the clue that he and his wife need to treat you with respect.
 
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GreenNnice

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I'm doing some thinking about the future.....
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forecasting our lives is hard to do, we, therefore, should let Him forecast :)
As a Christian, we forecast differently, too, because as we deal with our issues we give them to Him, right, in Spirit and in Truth (reading bible, hearing Him, through then praying :) ; the Holy Spirit IS in us all who choose Him through believing in Him, and, importantly, too, who have faith in the work that He IS doing through us. I like the 'is' word, it's so, so, so, umm, present.

I think, that God says things in Scripture for a reason, like Jesus, while on Earth, the Son of God sent from God, what I was thinking is that Christ told His disciples: "Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself." Matt. 6:34

NOW, my dog lies on the bed and does nothing but sleep. Soon enough, will come her woofing. I always wonder why she gets into deep sleeps in the morning time "(10:05 am here now)
and I get to thinking she must be alert, like a cat, a lot of the night, a dog will guard their owner even when their owner doesn't realize they are guarding them, so, yeah, she is just catching up on her lost nighttime zzzzzzz's . :)


liamsON:
But its all because of one class. "Aims of Argumentation" A class about Critical thinking, Logic, Reasoning, Debate and Arguing. This is what it says in the course description. How could I possibly go wrong here?
I took an argumentation and debate class my sophomore year, Fall semester.
I enjoyed it, the 'burden of proof' and 'rebuttal' and 'grounds' and 'claims' and all those notecards , 'pro' and 'con' and all that lingo, terminology that goes with this 'law' way of doing things.
I flunked the class, pretty much, I think, the professor liked me so it was a C-------.


My sophomore year, in 1988, Spring semester--that's the SEMESTER after the A&D class of the Fall. Anyhoo, I took a magazine article writing class and in that class, don't ask me why, but the prof wanted us to do a debate for one of our assignments. And, it sounds odd, a bit unbelievable, but the prof paired me up against the then senior student body president of the college.....

What was she thinking? But, I was told that I would debate on the current presidential candidates of the 1988 presidential campaign, Dukakis verse George W. Bush Sr.

I just decided to embrace this challenge and I went full out just doing things my way, learning what I could about Dukakis and Bush and the debate day came. And, I just remember having done this debate with fervor, vigor, tenacity. Verve ! And, when it was through, I'd not truly realized what I'd done, with the Lord's help, of course, I was not so into Him then, in college years, but He was there, in my life.

Anyway, I can remember refuting every point he said about the favorite candidate, Bush Sr., and it was with researched a rticles that were quite resounding, I guess. I forget what my grade was for this debate project, but I remember the president looking flustered during the debate and afterward this senior president of the school looked at this sophomore kid you're speaking to now and said 'good job' as we were walking outside.

So, what's said from all this is that God works in His way, mysterious, I have another story about on the speech team but will refrain from saying that now. But, the A&D class was really NOT my style, but when I didn't have to have notecards and perfect inclusion of things in a tight opening statement to body to rebuttal way, I could kill it, so to speak. The Lord leads,
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Just found out there's a chance my boyfriend may have to move back to Taiwan until the next rotation of our university's music education post-bachelor courses begins.. which isn't until Summer of 2015.
Also, while he's gone, he'll be serving in his country's military, which means he'll only get to use the phone/internet once a month, and we can't visit one another (neither of us could afford it, anyway). He loves to write so he insisted he'll be hand-writing me letters constantly.

My own parents' love story started out in the form of hand-written letters sent between The Philippines and Alaska. I always thought it was so romantic, but I never thought I'd end up in such a similar situation.

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xAlphaOmega

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Wow, I finally got a job!!! :) and it isnt at McDonalds
 
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kenthomas27

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Uh oh. Ole "pleased to meet ya, can't you guess my name" came back in my life.
 
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xAlphaOmega

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Hehe, yea thanks! Its for a company called Parker Hannafin, who makes aircraft components and other boring stuff and i will be a Technician in October if all goes as planned:) I still have to pass a drug test and background check,..... *crosses fingers
 

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Might be visiting an out-of-state college in the near future. This could be it for me. But I also think about the commitments I have here...I feel so torn. But I also feel like this is the opportunity of a lifetime. If I don't take it, it'd be a shame.