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if you want to be here during the tribulation that is your problem
Are those the words of the Holy Spirit, CoooCaw?

Prob 28:1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.

2 Tim 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

How could anyone with the Holy Spirit fear tribulation? :confused: It's going to be exciting times to have a ministry.

Isa 41:10 ¶ Fear thou not; for I [am] with thee: be not dismayed; for I [am] thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
 

zone

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Your witness to these things happening in Israel is true but to some that post here it is nothing but poppycock and rubbish. They refuse to see the faithfulness of God to what he has promised or the goodness of God that has brought favor upon them. Their faith is limited because they have a wrong understanding about Israel and the church.
i started a thread for this subject - unfulfilled promises - could you document from scripture what you are referring to here: "what he has promised"

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/75321-unfulfilled-promises.html < click

what has He promised?
what are you referring to?
 

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This thread concerns the Jews in your locality, does it not?
So this thread concerns your thinking rather than God's thinking, where he everywhere tells us not to show favoritism:

Mk 12:14 - " 'Teacher, we know you are a man of integrity. You are not swayed by men,
because you pay no attention to who they are.' "

Gal 2:6 - "God does not judge by external appearance."

Also see Dt 10:17; Pr 24:23; 1Pe 1:17; Jas 2:1; Ro 2:11; Eph 6:9; Col 3:25.
 

Elin

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The Gentiles have the gospel ministered to them in just about every nation, but
this thread concerns the Jews, if I am not mistaken.
Why single them out?

God doesn't single out, he shows no favoritism:

Mk 12:14; Dt 10:17; Pr 24:23; 1Pe 1:17; Jas 2:1; Ro 2:11; Gal 2:6; Eph 6:9; Col 3:25.
 

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What have you confessed to them with your tongue concerning the Lord Jesus Christ and the cross of Calvary? Have they heard from you about God's great salvation and the forgiveness of sins and
have you risked it all for love sake
Does this usually work for you?

because their souls are in the balance of life and death? How shall they hear unless we tell them?
Men do not save souls, Jesus Christ saves souls.

No man's destiny depends on anyone but God.
 

Elin

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Ahah we have a touchy subject. The abrahamic covenant is still in affect to the christian as well as the Hebrew. If we are children of faith we are children of Abraham as he is the father of faith and has children as numerous as the stars as promised. However,
the seed of Abraham hold a special place in the heart of the Father.
And let's remember who the word of God says are the seed of Abraham, only those in Christ
are the seed of Abraham and the sons of God (Gal 4:29).

And all those outside Christ are not the seed of Abraham, and do not inherit the promise to Abraham,
just as Ishmael and Esau did not.

Look at Israel now. . .they are Gods witness as the church has failed to do so.
Are you saying rejecters of the Son, Christ Jesus, are witnesses for the Father?

Your hermeneutic needs a little work.

they became a country in a day as spoken by the word of God. So treat them kindly as a nation,
There is no Biblical warrant for treating nations.

but as far as individual treat them as you would biblical treat a neighbor.
We are to treat them no differently than all other unbelievers.

We are to love them as our neighbors (Mt 22:37-39) and present them with the Gospel, leaving it to God to save whom he will.
 
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zone

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And let's remember who the word of God says are the seed of Abraham, only those in Christ
are the seed of Abraham and the sons of God (Gal 4:29).

And all those outside Christ are not the seed of Abraham, and do not inherit the promise to Abraham,
just as Ishmael and Esau did not.
Christianity 101

Are you saying rejecters of the Son, Christ Jesus, are witnesses for the Father?
Dispensationalism 101.
 

Elin

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Your witness to these things happening in Israel is true but to some that post here it is nothing but poppycock and rubbish. They refuse to see the faithfulness of God to what he has promised or the goodness of God that has brought favor upon them. Their faith is limited because
they have a wrong understanding about Israel and the church.
The Biblical understanding of Israel and the Church is that unbelieving Israel has been

cut off (Ro 11:17), and if they do not persist in unbelief (Ro 11:23), they will be grafted back

into the one tree (Ro 11:17-24) which is the one fold (Jn 10:16) and one people of God,

the one body and Bride of Christ in the marriage relationship of Eph 5:32, the NT church (Ro 11:23).

God does not have two separate plans for his people.

That is a notion of man, not supported outside prophetic riddles of unsure interpretation.
 

Elin

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if you want to be here during the tribulation that is your problem

I have not specified a timetable for Jews to return to Israel

When Jesus returns he will send his angels to gather the elect(ie his brethren the jews) from the four winds
Nowhere, absolutely nowhere, in Scriptures are the elect stated to be the Jews.

Some knowledge of the word of God would surely help here.
 

Elin

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Why are so many afraid of confrontational evangelism? We want to show them the gospel in hopes they will see Christ in us but we hesitate to confess with our mouth that same Jesus who came to SEEK and SAVE that which is lost, who are both Jew and Gentile. We believe by faith in our heart and we do the work of confessing that faith with our tongue. Don't take 1 John 3:18 out of context when it concerns verse 17 of having the world's goods and seeing your brother have need and you shut up your bowels of compassion. Who has believed our REPORT and how shall they HEAR without a PREACHER?
Now, that's more Biblical.
 

Elin

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I love your heart but Pentecost happened and Peter preached with many words to that crowd
Do you ever stop blaming?
Does that really work for you?

Many words to the crowd, and not in someone's living room.

Put JaumeJ in a pulpit, and I suspect you wouldn't be able to see much difference between Peter's preaching and his.
 
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Are you familiar with the God of the Bible?
When people don't listen to what God tells them in scripture, God will say:
Luk 13:26 Then you will say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets!'
Luk 13:27 But He will say, 'I tell you, I don't know you or where you're from. Get away from Me, all you workers of unrighteousness!'
 
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Why would i support anyone who hates Jesus Christ ? Just because of their skin ? Please !
 

zone

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When people don't listen to what God tells them in scripture, God will say:
Luk 13:26 Then you will say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets!'
Luk 13:27 But He will say, 'I tell you, I don't know you or where you're from. Get away from Me, all you workers of unrighteousness!'
CONTEXT:):

Luke 13
Repent or Perish

1There were some present at that very time who told him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2And he answered them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered in this way? 3No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. 4Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? 5No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.”

The Parable of the Barren Fig Tree
6And he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none. 7And he said to the vinedresser, ‘Look, for three years now I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and I find none. Cut it down. Why should it use up the ground?’ 8And he answered him, ‘Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and put on manure. 9Then if it should bear fruit next year, well and good; but if not, you can cut it down.’”


A Woman with a Disabling Spirit
10Now he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath. 11And there was a woman who had had a disabling spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not fully straighten herself. 12When Jesus saw her, he called her over and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your disability.” 13And he laid his hands on her, and immediately she was made straight, and she glorified God. 14But the ruler of the synagogue, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, said to the people, “There are six days in which work ought to be done. Come on those days and be healed, and not on the Sabbath day.” 15Then the Lord answered him, “You hypocrites! Does not each of you on the Sabbath untie his ox or his donkey from the manger and lead it away to water it? 16And ought not this woman, a daughter of Abraham whom Satan bound for eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath day?” 17As he said these things, all his adversaries were put to shame, and all the people rejoiced at all the glorious things that were done by him.

The Mustard Seed and the Leaven
18He said therefore, “What is the kingdom of God like? And to what shall I compare it? 19It is like a grain of mustard seed that a man took and sowed in his garden, and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air made nests in its branches.”

20And again he said, “To what shall I compare the kingdom of God? 21It is like leaven that a woman took and hid in three measures of flour, until it was all leavened.”

The Narrow Door
22He went on his way through towns and villages, teaching and journeying toward Jerusalem. 23And someone said to him, “Lord, will those who are saved be few?” And he said to them, 24“Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. 25When once the master of the house has risen and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, open to us,’ then he will answer you, ‘I do not know where you come from.’ 26Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’ 27But he will say, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you come from. Depart from me, all you workers of evil!’ 28In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves cast out. 29And people will come from east and west, and from north and south, and recline at table in the kingdom of God. 30And behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last.”

Lament over Jerusalem
31At that very hour some Pharisees came and said to him, “Get away from here, for Herod wants to kill you.” 32And he said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I finish my course. 33Nevertheless, I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the day following, for it cannot be that a prophet should perish away from Jerusalem.’ 34O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not! 35Behold, your house is forsaken. And I tell you, you will not see me until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!’”
 
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Why would i support anyone who hates Jesus Christ ? Just because of their skin ? Please !
Because you read the bible and obey God's instructions because God is God, that is why. Or do you feel capable of telling God what you are to do?
 
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Do you ever stop blaming?
Does that really work for you?

Many words to the crowd, and not in someone's living room.

Put JaumeJ in a pulpit, and I suspect you wouldn't be able to see much difference between Peter's preaching and his.
You bewilder me with some of your comments that do not make sense such as the above. It all depends on your frame of reference as to how you understand and relate to truth and what has been said in relationship to truth. Preaching is how the gospel is communicated to man who is lost, the light of the glorious gospel shining unto man. It was through preaching that 3,000 souls were saved at Pentecost and it is through preaching that those who live in darkness can see light.
 
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Why would i support anyone who hates Jesus Christ ? Just because of their skin ? Please !
Why did the Father send his Son knowing that he would be despised and rejected of men? There must have something about God loving the world so much that he would send his Son to be judged for all their sins through death. The Father was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself by not imputing their trespasses unto them. Christ did more than support you when you were his enemy (Rom 5:10) he took your sin without your permission and nailed it to a tree upon his own body. He did that when you were his enemy alienated from him by your wicked works and you have a problem with the Jews hating Jesus Christ? I guess you don't know just how desperately wicked your heart really is.
 

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Since others are posting videos, here's one more. Love this guy :)

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