Pastor John Hagee is an antichrist

[Praus]

Pastor John Hagee is an antichrist

Christ = "anointed", Christ was the Messiah, the Son of God -> Greek Lexicon :: G5547 (KJV)

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"... Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah ..." --John Hagee

John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am [he]. (KJV PCE)

"... it will also prove that Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah." --John Hagee

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also]. (KJV PCE)

 

[mystdancer50]

Wow. That's unfortunate. Sadly, as we are all human, we can get pompous in our wisdom and believe that we know more than God. Not to defend him, but messiah in Hebrew meant deliverer or high priest, so it could very well be that he is trying to say that Jesus had no intention of delivering the Jewish people from Rome at that moment in time and such, which is true, but as we look at the Messiah definition as our Savior and we know that He is, in fact, our high priest and we know that Jesus did, in fact, acknowledge that He was (is) the Messiah...so, yeah, it is wrong and he has misquoted Scripture in order to back his statements which is very, very wrong. It's sad to see this. Anyway, I found this review site, too: http://www.biblewheel.com/RR/Hagee_Defense_of_Israel.php so folks that want to read a bit more and know that this a book to avoid, there you go.

And, just as the reviewer in the link says, I love the Jewish people and I know God does too.

 

[letti]

I hear the devil and his disciples know scripture really well,just like John Hagee.Any man who denies Christ is Messiah is of the Antichrist crew,and it then doesn't make a difference ,how well they know scripture.I find it sad how many well known Bible preachers, turn out to actually be wolves in sheep's clothing these days.The sad thing is there seems to be quite a few of those.I was always skeptical of him.He is known to keep company, with other preachers, that raise alarms as well like Benny Hinn.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Agreed. 'Though I don't think this wolf was hard to pick. Jesus says we are to love our enemies, and this guy is preaching that we've got to go to war with Iran. Say what?!?

There are a lot of wolves in sheep's clothing around today. I reckon the ones warmongering for us to bring death and destruction on fellow Christians (amongst others) in foreign countries should be high on our suspect list.

Matthew 7:15 - 20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

 

[letti]

Is he still able to seek repentance?, there is only one unpardonable sin, or did he go to far already?

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Is he still able to seek repentance?, there is only one unpardonable sin, or did he go to far already?

I think only God knows the answer to that question. So long as there is still time for him (or anyone) to believe on Jesus for salvation, I don't think we should write him (or anyone) off as damned.

That said, Hagee's supposed to be a pastor, and preaches what he preaches? I'm reminded of the Jewish leaders who tried to hide Jesus' resurrection by bribing the Roman guards. Come Judgement Day, I'll be glad not to be in their shoes.

 

[letti]

Well,I am hoping he can I don't want to think of anybody being damned.

 

[letti]

I think we should pray, for all false teachers, that they will repent and receive forgiveness from Christ.

 

[99caravan]

War with Iran... that would be so stupid.

 

[letti]

Wars are stupid most have a agenda that is always in question.Innocent people, always suffer and have to die for a dishonest reason.In most cases.

 

[flight316]

What is up with John Hagee? He always says "give Him praise and glory."

 

[letti]

What is up with John Hagee? He always says "give Him praise and glory."

I'f you read the above OP about John Hagee it says he quoted in his book that Christ did not come to earth to be the Messiah.

 

[Praus]

What is up with John Hagee? He always says "give Him praise and glory."

Following Judah's Lion: Pastor Hagee says Keep Your Children Unsaved

"One of the “evangelical” leaders of this movement is Pastor John Hagee of San Antonio, Texas. He has a following of millions and he has changed the attitudes and beliefs of many believers. And at one of his pro-Israel rallies he was confronted by some non-believing Jews who were concerned that Christians would draw Jews into these rallies and convert them. They were unaware that Hagee believes that orthodox Jews can be saved without Jesus."

 

[letti]

Following Judah's Lion: Pastor Hagee says Keep Your Children Unsaved

"One of the “evangelical” leaders of this movement is Pastor John Hagee of San Antonio, Texas. He has a following of millions and he has changed the attitudes and beliefs of many believers. And at one of his pro-Israel rallies he was confronted by some non-believing Jews who were concerned that Christians would draw Jews into these rallies and convert them. They were unaware that Hagee believes that orthodox Jews can be saved without Jesus."

WOW,now it is getting even worse with more lies.Well thanks for the truth about this Man, and what he is really preaching.Preaching a plan the devil, has given him allude salvation for those already lost, or those who put there faith in him as a Man that preaches the truth.He is leading them, or trying to lead them down a dead path,that's sad.

 

[BradC]

Perhaps this response from Pastor John Hagee should be posted so that others will not be corrupted to think evil of this man as some have tried relentlessly.

Dear Friend:

I am writing to share with you some important news pertaining to my latest book In Defense of Israel. It has come to my attention that my choice of language and some of the interpretation being given that language in Chapter Ten has caused some confusion and actually led some readers to question whether I believe that Jesus is the Messiah. If people are reaching such a conclusion, then I have clearly failed to communicate my views as well as I should have.​

I have decided to release a new edition of In Defense of Israel with an expanded Chapter Ten. The new version will make the same point as the prior one, but using language which cannot mislead anyone about my bedrock belief that Jesus was and is Lord, Savior and Messiah.​

I was surprised to learn that some people were interpreting my words as a rejection of this most fundamental Christian belief that Jesus came to earth as the Messiah promised in the Hebrew Scriptures. I have been preaching the gospel for half a century. Almost every Sunday for the past 50 years, I have stood in front of Christian audiences to clearly proclaim the glory of our Lord, Savior and Messiah, Jesus Christ. For the past 30 years, these weekly sermons have been beamed to millions around the world on Christian television.​

Given my long years of preaching the gospel to so many, it simply never occurred to me that anyone would question my belief in the fundamentals of the faith. I chose to use challenging language that I hoped would confront the body of Christ to consider events from the Jewish and historical perspective and therefore develop greater empathy for our Jewish friends.​

Over the centuries, Christians have been quick to condemn the Jews for failing to recognize Jesus as Messiah. This approach led to replacement theology and the viewpoint of some that God has rejected and broken covenant with the Jewish people. These ideas, in turn, opened the door to a vicious Christian anti-Semitism that led to the Crusades, the Inquisition and countless pogroms.​

I tried to challenge this view by highlighting a distinction that has been long recognized in Christian theology between the role Jesus played in His first coming, and the role He will play in his second coming. Jesus came the first time as the suffering Messiah, as exemplified by His persecution, rejection and crucifixion. Jesus will come back as the reigning Messiah, who will rule the world from His throne in Jerusalem as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.​

We Christians believe that the suffering Messiah was clearly foreshadowed in the writings of the Hebrew prophets. However, most Jews have never read the prophets in this way. The Jews were expecting the reigning Messiah. I know this, you know this, and our omniscient and omnipotent Savior knows this.​

God could have sent His Son to earth as the reigning Messiah the Jews were expecting. Instead He chose to send Him as the suffering Messiah, who submitted to the Cross, and I thank Him every day that He did. But I also regret daily that this divine move has led so many of the fallen humans it saved to denigrate and persecute the Jewish people from whom our Lord sprang.​

In the expanded Chapter Ten, I will make the same point with language that does not hide my own perspective on the matter. The primary change will involve how I use the word “Messiah.” In the expanded version, I will clarify the clear distinction between the “Suffering Messiah,” the Lamb of God and the “Reigning Messiah,” the Lion of the Tribe of Judah!​

I am deeply grieved for any confusion my writing may have caused the body of Christ. It was never intended. I trust this letter and the expanded edition of In Defense of Israel will clarify what I believe. I also hope that we can return our focus to what I had anticipated to highlight all along, the fact that we Christians must shift from condemning the Jews for what they missed to thanking them for what they gave.

Blessings to you and those you love,​

Pastor John Hagee​

 

[Praus]

Wow. That's unfortunate. Sadly, as we are all human, we can get pompous in our wisdom and believe that we know more than God. Not to defend him, but messiah in Hebrew meant deliverer or high priest, so it could very well be that he is trying to say that Jesus had no intention of delivering the Jewish people from Rome at that moment in time and such, which is true, but as we look at the Messiah definition as our Savior and we know that He is, in fact, our high priest and we know that Jesus did, in fact, acknowledge that He was (is) the Messiah

Hi Sister Myst thanks for contributing to this thread. Hagee is teaching a different path to salvation for the Jewish people.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matt 3:5-9 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. ¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

John Hagee -> John Hagee And His False Teachings On Israel! | SOUL REFUGE

"Trying to convert Jews is a “waste of time,” he [Hagee] said. ...
Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha’i, needs to believe in Jesus, he says. But not Jews. Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced with Christianity, he says."

...so, yeah, it is wrong and he has misquoted Scripture in order to back his statements which is very, very wrong. It's sad to see this.

Jesus dealt with this kind of scripture misuse and He's the One Who gave us the scripture in the first place . Study the Bible and study it a lot!

Matt 4:6-7 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

And, just as the reviewer in the link says, I love the Jewish people and I know God does too.

They're our neighbors! -> Judaism by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lev 19:18 ¶ Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.

Luke 10:27-28 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

As the OP, this thread is not about whether we should support Israel or not. The target is false teaching, not Zionism, not any of the Jewish peoples of the world.

You all have been very patient with this thread, time for music break ... Shˁma Yisrael.

שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל

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Shˁma Yisrael by Sarit Hadad

When the heart cries
only God hears
The pain rises out of the soul
A man falls down before he sinks down
With a little prayer (he) cuts the silence

Shma (Hear) Israel my God,
you're the omnipotent
You gave me my life,
you gave me everything

In my eyes a tear,
the heart cries quietly
And when the heart is quiet,
the soul screams

Shma (Hear) Israel my God,
now I am alone
Make me strong my God;
make it that I won't be afraid

The pain is big,
and there's no where to run away
End it because I can't take it anymore
(make the end of it because I have no more energy left within me)

When the heart cries,
Time stands still
All of a sudden, the man sees his entire life
He doesn't want to go to the unknown
He cries to his God right before a big fall

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Perhaps this response from Pastor John Hagee should be posted so that others will not be corrupted to think evil of this man as some have tried relentlessly.

Its always the way with heretics, isn't it, when caught in their heresy? They try to slither out of it, like their slippery, slithery father. "Don't watch what I do, watch what I say".

If this man truly wasn't a heretic, he would be preaching Jesus to the (so-called) Jews as well as to the (so-called) Gentiles. But he doesn't, so he is. He wouldn't be preaching that Christians should go to war and murder their neighbours for political purposes - but he does.

Truth is, a few too many of the sheep have realised this particular hired hand isn't in the Shepherd's employ, and he's likely scared of the profits he'll lose. Hence the backpeddling. But watch the actions, not the words. "Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

 

[BradC]

Hi Sister Myst thanks for contributing to this thread. Hagee is teaching a different path to salvation for the Jewish people.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Matt 3:5-9 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. ¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

John Hagee -> John Hagee And His False Teachings On Israel! | SOUL REFUGE

"Trying to convert Jews is a “waste of time,” he [Hagee] said. ...
Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha’i, needs to believe in Jesus, he says. But not Jews. Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced with Christianity, he says."



Jesus dealt with this kind of scripture misuse and He's the One Who gave us the scripture in the first place . Study the Bible and study it a lot!

Matt 4:6-7 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.



They're our neighbors! -> Judaism by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lev 19:18 ¶ Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.

Luke 10:27-28 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

As the OP, this thread is not about whether we should support Israel or not. The target is false teaching, not Zionism, not any of the Jewish peoples of the world.

You all have been very patient with this thread, time for music break ... Shˁma Yisrael.

שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל

[video=youtube;X9V_0h67G9c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6pgg7khyYU[/video]


Shˁma Yisrael by Sarit Hadad

When the heart cries
only God hears
The pain rises out of the soul
A man falls down before he sinks down
With a little prayer (he) cuts the silence

Shma (Hear) Israel my God,
you're the omnipotent
You gave me my life,
you gave me everything

In my eyes a tear,
the heart cries quietly
And when the heart is quiet,
the soul screams

Shma (Hear) Israel my God,
now I am alone
Make me strong my God;
make it that I won't be afraid

The pain is big,
and there's no where to run away
End it because I can't take it anymore
(make the end of it because I have no more energy left within me)

When the heart cries,
Time stands still
All of a sudden, the man sees his entire life
He doesn't want to go to the unknown
He cries to his God right before a big fall

You got it wrong about Pastor Hagee, along with others who do not like the fact he supports Israel and encourages others to do the same. He is not just all talk like some here on this site, but is a man of faith and of action and has been doing this for some 50 years. Some of you are just plain ignorant in your understanding and you have a problem with how you receive truth. This thread is a typical example.

 

[Katy-follower]

We have to be so careful in these situations and always use discernment, check for yourself what the person teaches and don't believe all that is said about them. Listen to their sermons and read their statements of faith.

One of my favorite pastors is a strong man of God, a very sound teacher with a sound statement of faith, but there are some websites that post false information about what he really believes, they wrongfully label him as a heretic, a false teacher, that he teaches a false gospel, but each of these websites get their same copy/paste information from one source, since all the information is the same. I'm very selective and use discernment with every pastor, just as we all should be.

The enemy comes to steal, kill and destroy. It should be of no surprise when he goes after our pastors, an attempt to destroy their witness, so we need to check everything.

I don't know anything about Hagee, so can't comment on his teachings, etc.

 

[BradC]

Its always the way with heretics, isn't it, when caught in their heresy? They try to slither out of it, like their slippery, slithery father. "Don't watch what I do, watch what I say".

If this man truly wasn't a heretic, he would be preaching Jesus to the (so-called) Jews as well as to the (so-called) Gentiles. But he doesn't, so he is. He wouldn't be preaching that Christians should go to war and murder their neighbours for political purposes - but he does.

Truth is, a few too many of the sheep have realised this particular hired hand isn't in the Shepherd's employ, and he's likely scared of the profits he'll lose. Hence the backpeddling. But watch the actions, not the words. "Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

You just can't get it out fast enough because it's right there in the old heart and it comes right out with hardly any effort or hesitation. You sound just like the world who loves to analyse every word and action with ready labels to discredit those they think should know better. Come right out with it and tell everyone that you not only think Pastor John Hagee is evil but you know with certainty that he is evil because of his fruit, RIGHT? All those believers that worship at his assembly meetings all these years must all be deceived and just as evil as their pastor. You have it all figured and measured out just like others do with Billy Graham and C.S. Scofield and some others I won't mention.