Harry Potter -- Reality Or Just Fantasy? Or Both?!

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
S

simplechick

Guest
#21
Watched the whole series wish I did not do a lot of things but I did anyways .the series was full of witchcraft and everthing else.people told me it was just a show and not real.so I watched it.enjoyed it but started to pratice the spells in real life just to joke .later I messed with ghost boards because wanted to know more .stuff happened and so on.if u know what's good for u stay away from it
 
M

megaman125

Guest
#22
Harry Potter the book, if it was approved by GOD it would have been hated by many not loved by them. and JK rolling got a sell out if am not mistaken
I'm curious what you have to say about the fact that the Bible is the #1 selling book of all time in the world, since you say if it was approved by God it would be hated and not got a sell out as Harry Potter did.
 
M

Married_Richenbrachen

Guest
#23
I'm curious what you have to say about the fact that the Bible is the #1 selling book of all time in the world, since you say if it was approved by God it would be hated and not got a sell out as Harry Potter did.
Maybe because the bible has been sold through the ages, and say, 1 Christian might buy 10 or more bibles, whereas 1 Harry Potter lover will only buy one of each Harry Potter book, tops. So although the bible may be the best seller of all time, perhaps for the (short) duration of Harry Potter, it outsold the bible for this period? Also, there's a lot of liberal bibles, so they probably push the numbers up a bit more than the number of true bibles... I don't know if any of this is true. :| :D
 
C

Canchristiansgetalong

Guest
#24
I don't think Harry Potter was meant to be evil. I agree with some that say it is a great story with a lot of good moral lessons. I will say that over the years I have been amazed at how most popular movies have some kind of similarity to the plan God has set up for all of us. Its kind of like deep down inside of us, we know the story and love it. mmmmm?? Interesting to think about. Seriously though, a lot of movies have some kind of evil source and some kind of Savior(usually with super powers) who overcomes that evil and because of that everyone else gets to live or be free. Sounds familiar doesn't it? All of us human beings know the truth deep inside. We know Jesus Christ is our Savior and that we need to follow Him to be happy, but most of us choose to ignore it, but even then, popular fiction and popular movies reflect what we all know deep down inside.
 

Nautilus

Senior Member
Jun 29, 2012
6,488
53
48
#25
the hardest part of being a christian...
 
Sep 6, 2013
4,430
117
63
#26
Harry Potter the book, if it was approved by GOD it would have been hated by many not loved by them. and JK rolling got a sell out if am not mistaken
Are you saying that because the book was well-liked, that means it must be evil? That's pretty sketchy reasoning.

I'm one of those who avoided the series after reading a few fanatical reviews about the evils of Harry Potter. Some of the things I read... ugh. They painted a very evil picture of the books, the characters and the storyline. Then not long ago we watched the first movie, then the second, and then all of them. Then we bought the books. I still am shocked at how "alarmist" the reviews were. Is there make-believe magic? Sure. Is it obvious that the magic is completely fictional? Of course. The dark magic in the book IS considered dangerous and evil, and the story is all about defeating it. This is a harmless story. If you have a problem with it, then you consistently would also have problems with all fairytales, such as Peter Pan, Sleeping Beauty, Narnia (an obvious metaphor for Christ's sacrifice and atonement of sins) and countless others.

I consider the Left Behind series much more dangerous - a completely fictional story that many actually believe to be real.

We should be discerning, diligent and careful. But it does more harm than good to be extreme alarmists.
 
Mar 21, 2011
1,515
16
0
#27
You people are lost.

You see Republican party with their wars and torture and you think - Gods work.
You see a fictional tale for children and you think - evil.

You effectively ignore real evil and invent bogey men.

Meanwhile your Tea Party mates are on the verge of collapsing the world economy, but you are worried about fiction.

What's next? Vin Diesel accused of witchcraft because of his fantastical driving in Fast and the Furious?
 

T_Laurich

Senior Member
Mar 24, 2013
3,356
122
63
29
#28
You people are lost.

You see Republican party with their wars and torture and you think - Gods work.
You see a fictional tale for children and you think - evil.

You effectively ignore real evil and invent bogey men.

Meanwhile your Tea Party mates are on the verge of collapsing the world economy, but you are worried about fiction.

What's next? Vin Diesel accused of witchcraft because of his fantastical driving in Fast and the Furious?
First off you shouldn't generalize a group of people... And second off Vin Diesel is a homosexual, not a warlock... Different type of beef
 
U

Ugly

Guest
#29
You people are lost.

You see Republican party with their wars and torture and you think - Gods work.
You see a fictional tale for children and you think - evil.

You effectively ignore real evil and invent bogey men.

Meanwhile your Tea Party mates are on the verge of collapsing the world economy, but you are worried about fiction.

What's next? Vin Diesel accused of witchcraft because of his fantastical driving in Fast and the Furious?
Its great how you make assumptions about and label people. Its wonderful how you can do that and still think you're so much better than everyone around you. Pride.
 
Dec 21, 2012
2,982
40
0
#30
Is there make-believe magic? Sure. Is it obvious that the magic is completely fictional? Of course.
LINK -> Teen Exorcists Say Harry Potter's Magic Comes From Satan as They Take on London's Hotbed of Evil in New BBC Documentary

Note: These three women are on the Reverend Bob Larson's team...


The dark magic in the book IS considered dangerous and evil, and the story is all about defeating it. This is a harmless story.
harry_satanism.jpeg

If you have a problem with it, then you consistently would also have problems with all fairytales, such as Peter Pan, Sleeping Beauty, Narnia (an obvious metaphor for Christ's sacrifice and atonement of sins) and countless others.
I grew up on some of those stories and most of CC thinks I'm completely insane--including the people on my Friends list.

I consider the Left Behind series much more dangerous - a completely fictional story that many actually believe to be real.
Yeah they believe it! :eek::eek::eek:

We're now approaching 1000 posts of ugly spiritual warfare: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/74633-support-your-local-jew.html

We should be discerning, diligent and careful. But it does more harm than good to be extreme alarmists.
pottermagic.jpg
 
Jul 25, 2013
1,329
19
0
#31
Further, the occultist believes the Fantasy dimension is more exciting, and more adventurous, than the real world. This fact is depicted best in the extremely occultic [and Satanic] movie, "The Wizard of Oz". /QUOTE Praus


Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
There's a land that I've heard of, once in a lullaby
Somewhere over the rainbow, skies are blue
And the dreams that you dare to dream
Really do come true
Some day I'll wish upon a star
And wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where troubles melt like lemon drops
Away above the chimney tops
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow, blue birds fly
Birds fly over the rainbow
Why then, oh why, can't I?

Songbirds sing as shafts of sunlight pierce through the clouds.
If happy little bluebirds fly beyond the rainbow
Why, oh why, can't I?

Yep, been watching the movie since I was a boy and I believe those words in the song are SATANIC and used to confuse and pull me away from God and reality.

 
Dec 21, 2012
2,982
40
0
#32

Nautilus

Senior Member
Jun 29, 2012
6,488
53
48
#33
Further, the occultist believes the Fantasy dimension is more exciting, and more adventurous, than the real world. This fact is depicted best in the extremely occultic [and Satanic] movie, "The Wizard of Oz". /QUOTE Praus


Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
There's a land that I've heard of, once in a lullaby
Somewhere over the rainbow, skies are blue
And the dreams that you dare to dream
Really do come true
Some day I'll wish upon a star
And wake up where the clouds are far behind me
Where troubles melt like lemon drops
Away above the chimney tops
That's where you'll find me

Somewhere over the rainbow, blue birds fly
Birds fly over the rainbow
Why then, oh why, can't I?

Songbirds sing as shafts of sunlight pierce through the clouds.
If happy little bluebirds fly beyond the rainbow
Why, oh why, can't I?

Yep, been watching the movie since I was a boy and I believe those words in the song are SATANIC and used to confuse and pull me away from God and reality.

Now my mind is totally blown. Is this for real?
 
Mar 21, 2011
1,515
16
0
#34
First off you shouldn't generalize a group of people... And second off Vin Diesel is a homosexual, not a warlock... Different type of beef
He's not a homosexual. I think lying about that is an actual sin. Whereas generalisation is not a sin.

I also thinking tanking the world economy is a sin.
 
Mar 21, 2011
1,515
16
0
#35
Dec 21, 2012
2,982
40
0
#36
Can you confirm hand on your heart you have never voted republican, and never will?
David_1, why do you even bother coming to a website named Christian Chat? :confused:

Matt 5:34-37 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
 
May 18, 2010
931
15
18
#38
Shazzam! alacazam! shooby doo bop away, yea nothing of the reality to see here folks.
 
Aug 25, 2013
2,260
10
0
#39
Thanks, Cycel.
My favourites are Book 3 - The Prisoner of Azkaban, Book 4 - The Goblet of Fire, Book 6 - The Half-Blood Prince. But my absolute favourite is Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows. Book 5 - The Order of the Phoenix, is very good but takes quite a bit to get going and is also rather angsty. Book 1 - The Philosopher's Stone is enjoyable but a bit simple and Book 2 - The Chamber of Secrets, is very similar but the last third is rather good.

My absolute favourites though are Books 3 and 7.
I agree with your comments on the first two books which I think she probably wrote with young readers in mind, though I also think her skills as a writer improved as she went along. Or is it that as the characters aged the writing matured? I don't know, but there is a change in the style after the second book. Book 7 is the darkest, but it is also the most perilous as the world the children grew up in turns hostile and the cocoon of safety the school once provided becomes evil's stronghold. I am glad to hear she is writing an 8th book.
 

my_adonai_

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2012
818
22
0
32
#40
Joh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Thank God for this promise concerning His elect
Mat_3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Joh_12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Mat_13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Mat_13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Gal 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Gal 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Gal 3:4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
Gal 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Everything from the world, whether horror, fictitious, action, everything that comes from the world has A MORAL LESSON to it. If not then there is a certain DEGREE OF GOOD to it, and this is the very deception. Does not satan masquerade Himself as the angel of light? This is fun, its only entertainment, but where is the Holy Spirit in all of that?

Do we not worship the Father in TRUTH and in Spirit? So whatever we do or think should be IN TRUTH and APPROVED by the HOLY SPIRIT or hath the presence of the Holy Spirit in it.

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
2Co 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Is Harry Potter clean? Do not un-believers enjoy the read? thats their false joy and peace, we have ours in perfection from the LORD.!!. Inspiring and Powerful, when we do it, it does more than teach us about morals, we get that Infilling of the Holy Ghost and unction to do and preach the Gospel.

i never get any unction to preach the gospel when i watch any worldly movie, or read any worldly book, just go like YEAH that is true. or yes that is right. but to go out there and do the works of God.
nada, nothing.!!.

Questions to ponder!!.

This is will be my last post, not big on discussions on these things, we should all ask GOD more on this...!!... Basically even the things we read should be unctioned by His Spirit.

"There is a way that seems Good before man, how so? we sometimes are easily deceived into thinking that because GOD is all about character, and living a good Christian life then everything that has "good" written on it is a basic follow up or something to read, and because of that, and i speak from personal experience we go on and do that, go out there and pick up things that are not from HIM, and come back dirty, bankrupt towards GOD or having NOT experienced GOD the way HE wanted".

NOT FROM OUR REASONING, BUT FROM HIS.



ALL means ALL..!!..


Don Moen

All to Jesus I surrender;
All to him I freely give;
I will ever love and trust him,
In his presence daily live
I surrender all, I surrender all,
All to thee, my blessed Savior,
I surrender all.
All to Jesus I surrender;
Humbly at his feet I bow,
Worldly pleasures all forsaken;
Take me, Jesus, take me now.
All to Jesus I surrender;
Make me, Savior, wholly thine
Fill me with thy love and power;
Truly know that thou art mine.

All to Jesus I surrender;
Lord, I give myself to thee;
Fill me with thy love and power;
Let thy blessing fall on me.
All to Jesus I surrender;
Now I feel the sacred flame.
O the joy of full salvation!
Glory, glory, to his name!