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KKK Stand Down
I haven't seen any new releases on the goat shortage issue, however, I did find this...
HORRORS! Government Shutdown Means No Whale Counters or Animal-Semen Exporters | Media Research Center
“Animal-semen exporters were furloughed” sounds like a bad joke, but to left-wing publication Mother Jones it’s a problem caused by the government shutdown. Right up there with 50 Nubian goats in New Jersey being furloughed. And don’t forget about the Whale Counters!
The Oct. 2 article listed “30 Ways the Shutdown Is Already Screwing People.” Most of the items on this list wee the same talking points that the left has brought up time and again, but some were actually quite strange. The list included:
Whales: The Marine Mammal Commission, which monitors whale populations, is on hiatus.
Animal-semen exporters: The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports, ‘No one in Louisiana will be able export livestock, embryos, fertilized animal eggs or animal semen.’ Animal semen? Yup, the USDA monitors that too.
Goats: 50 Nubian goats, tasked with eating poison ivy at a New Jersey historical site, were furloughed.
Oh, and this one:
Klansmen: A planned march in Gettysburg by the Confederate Knights of the KKK was canceled because the national battlefield park is closed.”
Let’s all hope and pray that those goats don’t go hungry before the government starts up again. In the meantime, we should organize volunteers to go count the whales.
30 Ways the Shutdown Is Already Screwing People | Mother Jones
I haven't seen any new releases on the goat shortage issue, however, I did find this...
HORRORS! Government Shutdown Means No Whale Counters or Animal-Semen Exporters | Media Research Center
“Animal-semen exporters were furloughed” sounds like a bad joke, but to left-wing publication Mother Jones it’s a problem caused by the government shutdown. Right up there with 50 Nubian goats in New Jersey being furloughed. And don’t forget about the Whale Counters!
The Oct. 2 article listed “30 Ways the Shutdown Is Already Screwing People.” Most of the items on this list wee the same talking points that the left has brought up time and again, but some were actually quite strange. The list included:
Whales: The Marine Mammal Commission, which monitors whale populations, is on hiatus.
Animal-semen exporters: The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports, ‘No one in Louisiana will be able export livestock, embryos, fertilized animal eggs or animal semen.’ Animal semen? Yup, the USDA monitors that too.
Goats: 50 Nubian goats, tasked with eating poison ivy at a New Jersey historical site, were furloughed.
Oh, and this one:
Klansmen: A planned march in Gettysburg by the Confederate Knights of the KKK was canceled because the national battlefield park is closed.”
Let’s all hope and pray that those goats don’t go hungry before the government starts up again. In the meantime, we should organize volunteers to go count the whales.
30 Ways the Shutdown Is Already Screwing People | Mother Jones
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Re: KKK Stand Down
Agreed! I wanted to like your post (those poor goats!), but didn't, 'cause some parts of it grossed me out!
Probably a good way for the government to stop protests, though, right? Instead of all the work involved in organising police etc., just strategically shut down streets. Without workers to check that the streets are in order, those protestors might trip on a pothole or something, and get injured. I'm sure they'll understand, if the government tells them it's not a political move, they're just doing it to save money.
Agreed! I wanted to like your post (those poor goats!), but didn't, 'cause some parts of it grossed me out!
Probably a good way for the government to stop protests, though, right? Instead of all the work involved in organising police etc., just strategically shut down streets. Without workers to check that the streets are in order, those protestors might trip on a pothole or something, and get injured. I'm sure they'll understand, if the government tells them it's not a political move, they're just doing it to save money.
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Near Debt Experience?
[video=youtube;yPiJ0Gc7Wgc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPiJ0Gc7Wgc[/video]
Power Mad Obama Offers Two Choices: Unconditional Surrender Or Default | Dprogram.net
[video=youtube;yPiJ0Gc7Wgc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPiJ0Gc7Wgc[/video]
Power Mad Obama Offers Two Choices: Unconditional Surrender Or Default | Dprogram.net
Re: Near Debt Experience?
From left, Henry M. Paulson Jr., the Treasury secretary; Ben S. Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman; Christopher Cox, the Securities and Exchange Commission chairman; and James Lockhart III, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency. (Photo: Matthew Cavanaugh/European Pressphoto Agency)
remember Paulson? the bagman who threatened Congress with Martial Law if they didn't approve the 700 Bil $ (hahaha) bailout? more like 9 Tril $ stickup.
[video=youtube;1QK4bblyfsc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QK4bblyfsc[/video]
$9,000,000,000,000 MISSING From The Federal Reserve SHOCKING FOOTAGE
FED inspector General Elizabeth Coleman says - she has no jurisdiction to investigate the Fed.
mkay.
"are you telling me that nobody at the Fed is keeping track of the losses at the Fed?" - Grayson
From left, Henry M. Paulson Jr., the Treasury secretary; Ben S. Bernanke, the Federal Reserve chairman; Christopher Cox, the Securities and Exchange Commission chairman; and James Lockhart III, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency. (Photo: Matthew Cavanaugh/European Pressphoto Agency)
remember Paulson? the bagman who threatened Congress with Martial Law if they didn't approve the 700 Bil $ (hahaha) bailout? more like 9 Tril $ stickup.
[video=youtube;1QK4bblyfsc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QK4bblyfsc[/video]
$9,000,000,000,000 MISSING From The Federal Reserve SHOCKING FOOTAGE
FED inspector General Elizabeth Coleman says - she has no jurisdiction to investigate the Fed.
mkay.
"are you telling me that nobody at the Fed is keeping track of the losses at the Fed?" - Grayson
Death=Money?
[video=youtube;jmPS3abmGkk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPS3abmGkk[/video]
Families of fallen soldiers to receive bodies, no benefits - U.S. News
The chaplain of the Senate, Barry Black, directly invoked the denial of the benefit in his daily opening prayer before the chamber.
“Lord, when our federal shutdown delays payments of death benefits to the families of children dying on far-away battlefields, it’s time for our lawmakers to say enough is enough,” he said. “Cover our shame with the robe of your righteousness.”
[video=youtube;jmPS3abmGkk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmPS3abmGkk[/video]
Families of fallen soldiers to receive bodies, no benefits - U.S. News
The chaplain of the Senate, Barry Black, directly invoked the denial of the benefit in his daily opening prayer before the chamber.
“Lord, when our federal shutdown delays payments of death benefits to the families of children dying on far-away battlefields, it’s time for our lawmakers to say enough is enough,” he said. “Cover our shame with the robe of your righteousness.”
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The truth finally comes out:
Obama adviser ‘architect’ of showdown: author | New York Post
Obama adviser ‘architect’ of showdown: author
President Obama’s top adviser Valerie Jarrett was behind a plan to force a showdown with Republicans over ObamaCare as part of a strategy to regain Democratic control of the House next year, claims author Ed Klein.
Klein — who wrote a provocative biography about Obama last year entitled “The Amateur” — said White House insiders refer to Jarrett as “The Night Stalker” because she is the only presidential aide who frequently spends time in the family quarters and dines with the Obamas.
Klein, who is conducting a research for a new Obama tome scheduled for next spring, called Jarrett the “architect” of Obama’s take-no-prisoners approach when it comes to his signature domestic policy initiative.
It was Jarrett who advised Obama that voters would mostly blame Republicans if the federal government ground to a halt, providing a golden opportunity to swing back control of the House to Democrats in the 2014 mid-term elections, according to Klein.
A Democratic House would give Obama an opportunity to pass immigration and other legislation blocked by the current Republican majority.
“It was during one of those nightly sessions that Jarrett devised the no-negotiating strategy that Obama has employed in his fight with the GOP over the government shutdown,” Klein said, citing sources within the administration.
“Valerie came up with the concept late at night, after the kids and grandma and were gone.”
“She convinced the president that a government shutdown and default offered a great opportunity to demonize the Republicans and help the Democrats win back a majority in the House of Representatives in 2014.
Valerie also came with the idea of using the words `hostage’, and `ransom,’ and `terrorists’ against the Republicans,’” Klein said.
Jarrett, who like the Obamas hails from Chicago, has deep ties to the president, First Lady Michelle and the extended family.
“Everyone in the Beltway knew Valerie Jarrett was influential. They didn’t know how influential she was,” said Klein, who interviewed more than a half dozen White House and former presidential advisers about the shutdown strategy.
“Her power derived from one simple fact — proximity, No one except Michelle Obama is closer to the president than Valerie,” Klein quoted Democratic power broker Vernon Jordan as saying. Jordan’s wife is a cousin of Jarrett.
Jarrett is the one who advised Obama “do not cooperate one iota on ObamaCare. Don’t given an inch. Let the Republicans stew in their own juice,“ Klein said.
“The Republicans walked into a trap set up by Valerie Jarrett and President Obama, The Republicans are in an untenable position,” he added.
Klein said Jarrett is the conscience of the administration, “the keeper of the flame” who reminds Obama why he wanted to become president.
“The government shutdown is about protecting ObamaCare, yes. But it’s much larger than that. It’s about the 2014 House elections,” said Klein.
The White House had no immediate comment.
Obama adviser ‘architect’ of showdown: author | New York Post
Obama adviser ‘architect’ of showdown: author
President Obama’s top adviser Valerie Jarrett was behind a plan to force a showdown with Republicans over ObamaCare as part of a strategy to regain Democratic control of the House next year, claims author Ed Klein.
Klein — who wrote a provocative biography about Obama last year entitled “The Amateur” — said White House insiders refer to Jarrett as “The Night Stalker” because she is the only presidential aide who frequently spends time in the family quarters and dines with the Obamas.
Klein, who is conducting a research for a new Obama tome scheduled for next spring, called Jarrett the “architect” of Obama’s take-no-prisoners approach when it comes to his signature domestic policy initiative.
It was Jarrett who advised Obama that voters would mostly blame Republicans if the federal government ground to a halt, providing a golden opportunity to swing back control of the House to Democrats in the 2014 mid-term elections, according to Klein.
A Democratic House would give Obama an opportunity to pass immigration and other legislation blocked by the current Republican majority.
“It was during one of those nightly sessions that Jarrett devised the no-negotiating strategy that Obama has employed in his fight with the GOP over the government shutdown,” Klein said, citing sources within the administration.
“Valerie came up with the concept late at night, after the kids and grandma and were gone.”
“She convinced the president that a government shutdown and default offered a great opportunity to demonize the Republicans and help the Democrats win back a majority in the House of Representatives in 2014.
Valerie also came with the idea of using the words `hostage’, and `ransom,’ and `terrorists’ against the Republicans,’” Klein said.
Jarrett, who like the Obamas hails from Chicago, has deep ties to the president, First Lady Michelle and the extended family.
“Everyone in the Beltway knew Valerie Jarrett was influential. They didn’t know how influential she was,” said Klein, who interviewed more than a half dozen White House and former presidential advisers about the shutdown strategy.
“Her power derived from one simple fact — proximity, No one except Michelle Obama is closer to the president than Valerie,” Klein quoted Democratic power broker Vernon Jordan as saying. Jordan’s wife is a cousin of Jarrett.
Jarrett is the one who advised Obama “do not cooperate one iota on ObamaCare. Don’t given an inch. Let the Republicans stew in their own juice,“ Klein said.
“The Republicans walked into a trap set up by Valerie Jarrett and President Obama, The Republicans are in an untenable position,” he added.
Klein said Jarrett is the conscience of the administration, “the keeper of the flame” who reminds Obama why he wanted to become president.
“The government shutdown is about protecting ObamaCare, yes. But it’s much larger than that. It’s about the 2014 House elections,” said Klein.
The White House had no immediate comment.
US debt spikes to $17 trillion after debt ceiling lifted
PressTV - US debt spikes to $17 trillion after debt ceiling lifted
Treasury Building in Washington
Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:32AM GMT
The US Treasury Department has announced that the public debt of the United States reached to a record of $17.076 trillion for the first time in the county’s history.
The national debt jumped $329 billion from $16.747 trillion after the Congress decided to raise the country’s debt ceiling, the department said on Friday.
The unprecedented figure came after Wednesday’s agreement suspended the debt ceiling until Feb. 7 and ended the impasse over the debt ceiling and a temporary shutdown of the federal government.
Under the current deal, the US government is able to borrow as much money as it needs to cover obligations now. It can also use months of extraordinary measures once again to keep the government running if Congress again were to refuse to raise the debt ceiling, The Hill reported.
The country’s debt stood at $10.627 trillion on the day President Barack Obama took office. Under the Obama’s administration, $6.5 trillion has been added to the nation's credit card.
On Friday, Republicans lashed out at the new debt figures.
"For the first time in our nation's history, our national debt has topped $17 trillion. This is unacceptable," Republican Senator Ted Cruz tweeted.
Meanwhile, a new poll by Pew Research Center showed that an overwhelming majority of Americans are not satisfied by Congress and the government’s performance.
According to the survey, only 19 percent of respondents said they trust the federal government and only 23 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Congress.
The American people blame lawmakers rather than the political system more generally for the problems in Congress.
About 58 percent said “the political system can work fine, it’s the members of Congress that are the problem” and just 32 percent said “most members of Congress have good intentions, it’s the political system that is broken.”
PressTV - US debt spikes to $17 trillion after debt ceiling lifted
Treasury Building in Washington
Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:32AM GMT
The US Treasury Department has announced that the public debt of the United States reached to a record of $17.076 trillion for the first time in the county’s history.
The national debt jumped $329 billion from $16.747 trillion after the Congress decided to raise the country’s debt ceiling, the department said on Friday.
The unprecedented figure came after Wednesday’s agreement suspended the debt ceiling until Feb. 7 and ended the impasse over the debt ceiling and a temporary shutdown of the federal government.
Under the current deal, the US government is able to borrow as much money as it needs to cover obligations now. It can also use months of extraordinary measures once again to keep the government running if Congress again were to refuse to raise the debt ceiling, The Hill reported.
The country’s debt stood at $10.627 trillion on the day President Barack Obama took office. Under the Obama’s administration, $6.5 trillion has been added to the nation's credit card.
On Friday, Republicans lashed out at the new debt figures.
"For the first time in our nation's history, our national debt has topped $17 trillion. This is unacceptable," Republican Senator Ted Cruz tweeted.
Meanwhile, a new poll by Pew Research Center showed that an overwhelming majority of Americans are not satisfied by Congress and the government’s performance.
According to the survey, only 19 percent of respondents said they trust the federal government and only 23 percent of Americans had a favorable view of Congress.
The American people blame lawmakers rather than the political system more generally for the problems in Congress.
About 58 percent said “the political system can work fine, it’s the members of Congress that are the problem” and just 32 percent said “most members of Congress have good intentions, it’s the political system that is broken.”
Re: US debt spikes to $17 trillion after debt ceiling lifted
just heartbreaking.
President Jackson's Veto Message Regarding the Bank of the United States; July 10, 1832
Avalon Project - President Jackson's Veto Message Regarding the Bank of the United States; July 10, 1832
just heartbreaking.
President Jackson's Veto Message Regarding the Bank of the United States; July 10, 1832
Avalon Project - President Jackson's Veto Message Regarding the Bank of the United States; July 10, 1832
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And the IMF just hatched a plan for global wealth confiscation to maintain debt solvency so they can keep selling bonds: http://christianchat.com/conspiracy...m/76458-imf-wants-your-money.html#post1237347
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Re: US debt spikes to $17 trillion after debt ceiling lifted
Banking itself is not the problem zone. It never was. Like a gun, it can be used for good or evil depending on who is wielding it and for what purpose.
Nicholas Biddle was a first class banker and I argue that overall he contained the Panic of 1819. Though driven by global market adjustments in the aftermath of the Napoleonic wars, the severity of the economic downturn during the panic was compounded by excessive speculation in public lands and fueled by the unrestrained issue of paper money from state banks and private business concerns NOT the Bank of the United States under Biddle.
Historian Paul Johnson writes, "Biddle was a first-class central banker, as good at his job as Marshall was at being chief justice...(America needed a) highly competitive capitalistic system with easy access to the largest possible sources of credit, that access to be maintained by strict fiscal and financial probity."
It's true Biddle reigned in credit lending but he had too as the state banks and private lenders were dangerously overextended. Biddle was a reformer who corrected a land speculation bubble (especially around cotton farming) that wouldn't have existed in the first place had central controls been in place.
As soon as Andrew Jackson defunded the second Bank of the United States by moving the deposits into state banks all control was lost. Inflation began to skyrocket as the loosening of credit led to a huge increase in paper money.
Then, to compound matters, the Federal Government decided to take its budget surplus (acquired through the booming public land sales) and redistribute it to the states. About $28 million (a large sum for those days) was made available with some states then using the funds for public works or education, but others speculating along with all the rest.
By July 1836, land speculation was so enormous that it added to our lexicon the phrase "doing a land-office business." The President was then forced to issue a "Specie Circular," whereby the government would now only accept hard cash, gold or silver, for public land payments.
Andrew Jackson's state banking policy is the primary driver in what became The Panic of 1837.
Banking itself is not the problem zone. It never was. Like a gun, it can be used for good or evil depending on who is wielding it and for what purpose.
Nicholas Biddle was a first class banker and I argue that overall he contained the Panic of 1819. Though driven by global market adjustments in the aftermath of the Napoleonic wars, the severity of the economic downturn during the panic was compounded by excessive speculation in public lands and fueled by the unrestrained issue of paper money from state banks and private business concerns NOT the Bank of the United States under Biddle.
Historian Paul Johnson writes, "Biddle was a first-class central banker, as good at his job as Marshall was at being chief justice...(America needed a) highly competitive capitalistic system with easy access to the largest possible sources of credit, that access to be maintained by strict fiscal and financial probity."
It's true Biddle reigned in credit lending but he had too as the state banks and private lenders were dangerously overextended. Biddle was a reformer who corrected a land speculation bubble (especially around cotton farming) that wouldn't have existed in the first place had central controls been in place.
As soon as Andrew Jackson defunded the second Bank of the United States by moving the deposits into state banks all control was lost. Inflation began to skyrocket as the loosening of credit led to a huge increase in paper money.
Then, to compound matters, the Federal Government decided to take its budget surplus (acquired through the booming public land sales) and redistribute it to the states. About $28 million (a large sum for those days) was made available with some states then using the funds for public works or education, but others speculating along with all the rest.
By July 1836, land speculation was so enormous that it added to our lexicon the phrase "doing a land-office business." The President was then forced to issue a "Specie Circular," whereby the government would now only accept hard cash, gold or silver, for public land payments.
Andrew Jackson's state banking policy is the primary driver in what became The Panic of 1837.
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The principles of banking, accounting, etc... are NOT the problem. It's desirable that people have somewhere safer to accumulate their wealth (for when they are old, sick, and many other important reasons) than their mattresses. Banking is desirable for trade, commerce, business growth, etc...
You keep stating the government is borrowing money from one big private bank. I'll assume you mean the federal reserve which is the central bank of the U.S. and was created by Congress on December 23, 1913, with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907 and retooled after the Great Depression to hopefully prevent further depressions in the future (which it would have if the politicians hadn't began engaging in massive deficit spending and free trade).
It's really simple, if the legislature (e.g. Congress and the Senate) and the President all together don't engage in massive deficit spending then they don't borrow money from it.
No conspiracy here. Politicians spend more money than they take in revenue and the fed lends it to them. The MOMENT at which politicians cease engaging in that behavior, the lending ends.
You appear to be under some impression that the fed forces our politicians to pass legislation borrowing money the government doesn't have (e.g. money allocated above the revenue received). That's a false assertion.
They cannot and do not force the politicians to pass budgets that spend more than they receive. These are POLITICAL decisions the POLITICIANS make. As soon as they stop, the lending stops. So simple.
You keep stating the government is borrowing money from one big private bank. I'll assume you mean the federal reserve which is the central bank of the U.S. and was created by Congress on December 23, 1913, with the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907 and retooled after the Great Depression to hopefully prevent further depressions in the future (which it would have if the politicians hadn't began engaging in massive deficit spending and free trade).
It's really simple, if the legislature (e.g. Congress and the Senate) and the President all together don't engage in massive deficit spending then they don't borrow money from it.
No conspiracy here. Politicians spend more money than they take in revenue and the fed lends it to them. The MOMENT at which politicians cease engaging in that behavior, the lending ends.
You appear to be under some impression that the fed forces our politicians to pass legislation borrowing money the government doesn't have (e.g. money allocated above the revenue received). That's a false assertion.
They cannot and do not force the politicians to pass budgets that spend more than they receive. These are POLITICAL decisions the POLITICIANS make. As soon as they stop, the lending stops. So simple.
L....O....L.
deficit spending? arg.
until you cancel the debt you currently owe, there's no other kind dear friend.
but...you have all those WARS to do.
who is going to pay for them?
reconstruction of the victim nation?
oh yes, Halliburton KBR is a proudly american corp...the V.A. is a dump, and the vets are sick and dying...but you got the world's largest "embassy" in Iraq.
accidental? just a good opportunity? or was that the plan even before 911?
you do not have any more industry - haven't you noticed?
you do not have a trade system that works in your favor. did you notice?
do you know how all the industry went to China?
did you know you paid to train and move it all?
and you're still paying?
Politicians pend money?
OMY....okay.
like....politicians?
and what behavior is that, that politicians do?
do you know what lobbying is?
AoK, nations are supposed to print and loan their own money. not borrow from private 'bankers' at compound interest - EVER.
not under any circumstances.
if you think it can be reformed or reversed, why was there any need for it in the first place?
do you know?
deficit spending? arg.
until you cancel the debt you currently owe, there's no other kind dear friend.
but...you have all those WARS to do.
who is going to pay for them?
reconstruction of the victim nation?
oh yes, Halliburton KBR is a proudly american corp...the V.A. is a dump, and the vets are sick and dying...but you got the world's largest "embassy" in Iraq.
accidental? just a good opportunity? or was that the plan even before 911?
you do not have any more industry - haven't you noticed?
you do not have a trade system that works in your favor. did you notice?
do you know how all the industry went to China?
did you know you paid to train and move it all?
and you're still paying?
Politicians pend money?
OMY....okay.
like....politicians?
and what behavior is that, that politicians do?
do you know what lobbying is?
AoK, nations are supposed to print and loan their own money. not borrow from private 'bankers' at compound interest - EVER.
not under any circumstances.
if you think it can be reformed or reversed, why was there any need for it in the first place?
do you know?
so childish.
the politician just decides he's going to spend money?
sits around at night wondering what to spend money on?
HE'S LOBBIED. owned. by CORPORATIONS. you do know that...right?
okay?
so if you're going to just say "politicians" (who are nothing more than 2 term max puppets), i'm just going to laugh.
this is your proposal? to fix everything?
HEY OBAMA - STOP SPENDING?
okay....thanks anyways.
let me know how that works out.
bye for now.
the politician just decides he's going to spend money?
sits around at night wondering what to spend money on?
HE'S LOBBIED. owned. by CORPORATIONS. you do know that...right?
okay?
so if you're going to just say "politicians" (who are nothing more than 2 term max puppets), i'm just going to laugh.
this is your proposal? to fix everything?
HEY OBAMA - STOP SPENDING?
okay....thanks anyways.
let me know how that works out.
bye for now.
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Zone, your last two posts have valid points which I agree with. Obviously, massive sweeping reform across the board is necessary to correct a bad and worsening problem.
However, the politicians are not slaves that were bought on the block. There is no "bill of sale" a special interest, PAC, wealthy elitist, etc... has for them that can be remitted to the law enforcement organs of our nation to then force them to cast their vote and do what their master wants them to do. LOL.
They are influenced by those with money who pay for their campaigns and provide them their perks, stock tips, and revolving door opportunities but also the demographics they represent who vote them into power. Don't forget that legislatures and presidents cannot hold their positions unless they are voted into them in elections by THE PEOPLE.
However, the politicians are not slaves that were bought on the block. There is no "bill of sale" a special interest, PAC, wealthy elitist, etc... has for them that can be remitted to the law enforcement organs of our nation to then force them to cast their vote and do what their master wants them to do. LOL.
They are influenced by those with money who pay for their campaigns and provide them their perks, stock tips, and revolving door opportunities but also the demographics they represent who vote them into power. Don't forget that legislatures and presidents cannot hold their positions unless they are voted into them in elections by THE PEOPLE.
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Once elected, politicians have the authority to vote however they want to. If they want to buck the special interests, press, and even their own constituents: they certainly can do so.
Of course, the potential that they may not be reelected by the voters; may be smeared in the press by those unhappy with the way they voted; and/or may forfeit financial support for their campaigns and opportunities to enrich themselves from interests not happy with how they voted exists.
But so does the other side of the coin for all three of those possibilities.
Of course, the potential that they may not be reelected by the voters; may be smeared in the press by those unhappy with the way they voted; and/or may forfeit financial support for their campaigns and opportunities to enrich themselves from interests not happy with how they voted exists.
But so does the other side of the coin for all three of those possibilities.