Capital punishment for or against ?
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Those that say, the old testament laws where done away with, don't know what they are talking about. ( the blood letting laws , and sin offering laws, those, were done away with ). But not the law, the law is good, its man who is bad and brakes God's laws that is bad. This is what the Bible teaches, its just the wording of some things throws people who are to rash to jump to conclusions without any real study.
In America there are laws like this for accidental killings. Laws are different from state to state. If more people lived according to God's laws, we'd all have a more peaceful life.
In America there are laws like this for accidental killings. Laws are different from state to state. If more people lived according to God's laws, we'd all have a more peaceful life.
Murders should be excecuted ! Whats your thought on what the bible says 
Blessss to all on CC
Blessss to all on CC
Revelation 3:16So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
Revelation 3:5The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels.
Because we are render unto Caesar what is Caesars. Application for today is if our government passes a law, we must accept or be punished, example-speed limits. As long as it's not a direct violation of God's moral law, we are to obey it.
I am not sure if capital punishment is applicable for today, or that you can make a solid clear cut case to support biblically. So i'm on the fence with this issue (depends on the case really), and I just wanted to know what Starfield's view was if was her to choice.
I am not sure if capital punishment is applicable for today, or that you can make a solid clear cut case to support biblically. So i'm on the fence with this issue (depends on the case really), and I just wanted to know what Starfield's view was if was her to choice.
Lol. Then someone is doing something terribly wrong.
I'm not expert, but...
Price of bullet: $0.20
Price of relative to pull trigger: $free$
vs.
Price of providing food for life: $100,000
Price of jailer, jail cell, clothing, electricity, blah, blah, blah: Who cares, $100,000 is already way more than 20c.
I'm not expert, but...
Price of bullet: $0.20
Price of relative to pull trigger: $free$
vs.
Price of providing food for life: $100,000
Price of jailer, jail cell, clothing, electricity, blah, blah, blah: Who cares, $100,000 is already way more than 20c.
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Last I checked, speed limits didn't have Caesar's head on them. And even if they did, it just means they belong to Caesar. We don't.
What's the price on the soul of the victim that the murderer possibly sent to Hell? And if we let them live longer, there's a chance they could send others to Hell. Besides, God made clear his expectation to lawful authority about murderers deserving death, through Noah, in Genesis 9.
What's the price on the soul of the victim that the murderer possibly sent to Hell? And if we let them live longer, there's a chance they could send others to Hell. Besides, God made clear his expectation to lawful authority about murderers deserving death, through Noah, in Genesis 9.
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No one goes to hell by accident. Also, we are to obey the speed limits.
Oh, you mean, like people who are unregenerate God-haters shouldn't go to hell? Everyone deserves hell prior to regeneration and being washed clean with the blood.
He also made clear our duty to obey the law of the land so long as it does not ask us to disobey God. He puts pharaohs in power so he can harden their hearts and bring his sovereign will to fruition through them, though often we misunderstand and oppose his sovereign will.
Oh, you mean, like people who are unregenerate God-haters shouldn't go to hell? Everyone deserves hell prior to regeneration and being washed clean with the blood.
He also made clear our duty to obey the law of the land so long as it does not ask us to disobey God. He puts pharaohs in power so he can harden their hearts and bring his sovereign will to fruition through them, though often we misunderstand and oppose his sovereign will.
M
Exactly. So hell is not a valid argument against using the death penalty on a murderer.
It depends on the situation. Generally, I would say that abiding by a speed limit coincides with "living at peace with everyone". However, if a government imposes a speed limit against the will of the people, and that government derives its power from the people's will, technically, that government would be in rebellion. And I would therefore argue the speed limit need not be obeyed. Its a technicality, but I think the "render unto Caesar" verse is taken out of context. Caesar was stealing, and the Jews were trying to force Jesus to choose between supporting theft, or supporting rebellion.
Agreed. So again, you can't use hell as an excuse not to execute a murderer.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here, unless you're confirming that most governments are in rebellion against God, and are therefore abrogating at least some of the authority to which they would otherwise be entitled.
It depends on the situation. Generally, I would say that abiding by a speed limit coincides with "living at peace with everyone". However, if a government imposes a speed limit against the will of the people, and that government derives its power from the people's will, technically, that government would be in rebellion. And I would therefore argue the speed limit need not be obeyed. Its a technicality, but I think the "render unto Caesar" verse is taken out of context. Caesar was stealing, and the Jews were trying to force Jesus to choose between supporting theft, or supporting rebellion.
Agreed. So again, you can't use hell as an excuse not to execute a murderer.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here, unless you're confirming that most governments are in rebellion against God, and are therefore abrogating at least some of the authority to which they would otherwise be entitled.
M
If it were my family or friends that were murdered, and I knew who murdered them, I certainly wouldn't be afraid to pull the trigger. Death is a just punishment for a murderer. "He who sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed".
Some people are so horrified by the death penalty for murderers, but won't think twice about supporting the murder of innocent men, women and children in other countries under the excuse of "war". Hmmmmmmm?
Some people are so horrified by the death penalty for murderers, but won't think twice about supporting the murder of innocent men, women and children in other countries under the excuse of "war". Hmmmmmmm?
J
Nor is it a valid argument for the death penalty. People sent to hell "quicker" because of a case of murder were sent exactly as planned. Has not the Lord numbered all our days?
Sounds more like an attempt to justify speeding.
... or to execute. Hell is irrelevant, justice according to scripture is relevant.
We are to obey governments. If a government says not to preach the Gospel, then disobey. Acts 5:29 as I recall.
Sounds more like an attempt to justify speeding.
... or to execute. Hell is irrelevant, justice according to scripture is relevant.
We are to obey governments. If a government says not to preach the Gospel, then disobey. Acts 5:29 as I recall.
M
My mentioning of hell in the previous posts was only to preclude it being a factor in deciding the righteousness of the death penalty for murderers. If you check back, I did not bring the argument up.
I'm not so much trying to justify speeding, but I don't like when Christians blindly demand others follow government rules just because the government made them. In my country, and I believe yours, the government is accountable to the people.
Christians too often forget this, and think just because the criminals are politicians, we have to obey them. Some laws are illegal. Do Christians (or anyone else) need to follow illegal laws? Hmmmmmmm? I think not.
I'm not so much trying to justify speeding, but I don't like when Christians blindly demand others follow government rules just because the government made them. In my country, and I believe yours, the government is accountable to the people.
Christians too often forget this, and think just because the criminals are politicians, we have to obey them. Some laws are illegal. Do Christians (or anyone else) need to follow illegal laws? Hmmmmmmm? I think not.
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yes he would, you should read your bible more.
“I will have no compassion,
15 even though he thrives among his brothers.
An east wind from the Lord will come,
blowing in from the desert;
his spring will fail
and his well dry up.
His storehouse will be plundered
of all its treasures.
16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.”[b]
pretty much saying yeah they are all going to die for rebelling.
“I will have no compassion,
15 even though he thrives among his brothers.
An east wind from the Lord will come,
blowing in from the desert;
his spring will fail
and his well dry up.
His storehouse will be plundered
of all its treasures.
16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.”[b]
pretty much saying yeah they are all going to die for rebelling.