Understanding

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Delijah what can i answer for you with Scripture from God
 
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Let me give you Scripture for EVERY question you have
 
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Do not pick on pickles, robus with cobus....
 
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I really have never heard about any hiding of Church and i do not see any point of that,just making sinners without Church who are lost.More,there must be original Church established before 2000years.
 
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Ok so let me show you in Scripture....Two verses so you can understand how God operates....
Col 3:3... For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
1 Tim 3:9... Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
Do you see that the lives of the people in God's church is HID IN GOD WITH CHRIST...
And that this FAITHFUL people are a mystery of the Faith in God?
 
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I am in Africa with slow internet so be patient ok, but ask if you do not understand, the Bible is written DEEP in God, it takes time to discover the WHOLE Truth, but if you have ot, YOU ARE SET FREE...
 

pickles

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Delija, your question is the very perpose of this post.
You want to me to give you my understanding, or cobus to give you his.
When the original post is scripture, that says not to rely on your own understanding, but that given by God.
Division came because each wanted to live by their own understanding, rather than what is given by God.
In faith, trust all in Jesus to God Our Father. :)

God bless
pickles
 
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Delijah, God makes ALL His children as one with Him as he was ONE with JEsus... PErfectly one...

Jesus says in JOhn 10:30... I and the Father (God) are ONE! If you can think on this a minute and God reveals these words for you, then you understand where God is for His Church and where God's Church in FOR HIM.
 
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Where was God for Jesus? and where was Jesus for God? God was in Jesus's words, in His life, and in ALL HIS WORKS...
And where was Jesus for God... IN GOD'S WILL!
 

pickles

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Its late for me and time to get some sleep. :)
I look forward to returning to this talk tomorrow.
Delija, I pray in Jesus, you find the answers you seek.
Thankyou all for your good words here.

God bless
pickles
 
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Jeus said... The words I speak IS NOT MINE BUT THE FATHERS.... So JEsus spoke the Words GOD WILLED HIM TO SPEAK. And so was the WORKS.. JEsus said He only does what HE LEARNED FROM HIS FATHER IN HEAVEN... DOING GOD's WILL. And the WHOLE LIFE JESUS lived, he lived for the WILL OF THE FATHER.... EVE NTHE CUP OF THE CRUCIFICTION WAS THE WILL OF THE FATHER.... 100% in the WILL of the Father...

Same with the children of God... they live 100% in the will of the FATHER... the BODY OF CHRIST IS STILL 100% INTHE WILL OF THE FATHER...EVEN TODAY, and FOREVER//..
 
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Delija, your question is the very perpose of this post.
You want to me to give you my understanding, or cobus to give you his.
When the original post is scripture, that says not to rely on your own understanding, but that given by God.
Division came because each wanted to live by their own understanding, rather than what is given by God.
In faith, trust all in Jesus to God Our Father. :)

God bless
pickles
Why then did God give us the ability to come to the "wrong" conclusion on our own? If the true church is "hidden" as cobus says, why does he deceive his followers? Eternal suffering is no joke, why would God play that kind of game with the children he created?
 

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Why then did God give us the ability to come to the "wrong" conclusion on our own? If the true church is "hidden" as cobus says, why does he deceive his followers? Eternal suffering is no joke, why would God play that kind of game with the children he created?
God doesn't force anyone to walk in the light. Men deceive themselves when they choose darkness.

All the answers are in our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He doesn't play games.
 
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U must know 1st that in history of Christianity Church never was hiden.Many Churches were established in time of Apostles and every Apostle is known by Church where he established,Antioch,Corint itc...
Even more is known successors of Apostles calld Apostolic Fathers,2nd generation of Apostles whose teachers were 12 Apostles.2nd generation were 70 Apostles,but not all of them were considered as Saints because some fall out of teaching.
 
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God doesn't force anyone to walk in the light. Men deceive themselves when they choose darkness.

All the answers are in our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He doesn't play games.
Ok,so what we use for comparing of our interpretation of God Word?
 
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Jeus said... The words I speak IS NOT MINE BUT THE FATHERS.... So JEsus spoke the Words GOD WILLED HIM TO SPEAK. And so was the WORKS.. JEsus said He only does what HE LEARNED FROM HIS FATHER IN HEAVEN... DOING GOD's WILL. And the WHOLE LIFE JESUS lived, he lived for the WILL OF THE FATHER.... EVE NTHE CUP OF THE CRUCIFICTION WAS THE WILL OF THE FATHER.... 100% in the WILL of the Father...

Same with the children of God... they live 100% in the will of the FATHER... the BODY OF CHRIST IS STILL 100% INTHE WILL OF THE FATHER...EVEN TODAY, and FOREVER//..
This is one of the big English speaking myth's about Christ; When Christ was praying in the garden of Gethsemane. Christ WAS NOT praying about the crucifixion, He NEVER waivered in Our Father's Will, remember Christ is perfect.

Christ is not the only one who freely and willing gave up their life down here for us.

There are the Apostles and disciples that did so, and countless numbers of soldiers that did so, and an unknown amount of nobodies that have as well.

I find that this teaching about Christ does him a great disservice, in that it shows Christ displaying fear, and that is a pile of Hogwash.

The CUP that Christ was praying to have removed, IF POSSIBLE!, IS the wrath to come in the book of Revelations.

I am SO sick of people teaching Christ crucified, especially for the 3rd purpose of it, SIN.

Teach rather; HE IS RISEN! YEA! some GOOD NEWS (GOSPEL)
 
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We stand he did not pray that the crucifixion would pass but the TIME TO THE CRUCIFIXION... Jesus just wanted them to come get Him, He was ready to go.... And that is why when He asked the Father that.... the next time he got to the other three, they went to the EVIL BUNCH to be captured...

He NEVER asked God not to be crucified, I only used the cup of crucifixion because that was in the garden just before he as arrested to be crucified... You are 100% correct. He asked for the TIME to pass...
 
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Why then did God give us the ability to come to the "wrong" conclusion on our own? If the true church is "hidden" as cobus says, why does he deceive his followers? Eternal suffering is no joke, why would God play that kind of game with the children he created?
Christ deceived NO ONE!, our enemy is the one who is doing the deceiving, and we the people are the ones being deceived.

The Church is hidden because; IT IS NOT FOR SALE!. and religions are more concerned with money and profit than The Word.( though of course they will portray otherwise.)

Christianity is NOT a religion, It is Reality, and its an art to be practised.

GOD is NOT a Being or a Spirit, GOD is the Mission that we are ALL on, Getting Over Death/Satan (GOD)

If one is talking about The GODHEAD, well then yes, now were talking beings and spirits, for The Godhead consists of 3 spirits of being, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.

The spiritual war that is at hand IS Deception, Deception about what? Deception about where you, me and EVERYBODIES inner-person originated from.

It is allowed to happen because, when one begins to realize the MoreNatural (supernatural) powers that be, and how amazingly beautiful and powerful we all MoreNaturally are, well then one can begin to realize how a individual could not be let loose with this kind of power unless they understand exactly what it is for, and how to use it Righteously.

There is no such thing as eternal suffering, this is misconstrued through the English translations, as well as untold numbers of other misconstrued points that religions of man make.

The #1 and first warning from Christ after he rose from the dead was; DO NOT BE DECEIVED! by this body that I am now in, for the next body like this, that mankind shall see, IS A FAKE!

I'm a sort of an atheist myself, but that's in reguards to religion at this time; BUT, when it comes to The Word of Getting Over Death (GOD) kill me already, kill me now, kill me later, what ever Our Father Love desires of me, may I fulfill it in ignorance, or in knowledge, I really don't care, as long as it is His Will, and not mine.
 
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Ok,so what we use for comparing of our interpretation of God Word?
The original Fire, The ancient kryptonite, the immoveable force, The Scroll of Moses. Of which the Bible is a textbook to.
 
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About what fires and scroles u are speaking of?What Moses could speak about Christ and Christianity when he didn't know that God is Holy Trinity?
What am asking here is on which can we based our interpretations?Don't tell me on Bible because Bible cannot explain Bilble.And,does on this earth exist any Church that holding original teaching of Apostles ?