when will the rapture happen

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You keep preaching "second coming." That isn't in the KJV.
No where does it state "second coming."
Hebrews 9:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.


"It's in my KJV..." ;)

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Maybe tonight, the question is are you ready?
 

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Mattithyah 24:29-31, "Immediately, but after the tribulation of those days will the sun be darkened, and the moon will not give her light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven; and then will all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His malakim with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will
gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of earth to the other."

1 Corinthians 15:50-54, "Now I say this brothers: that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of Yahweh; neither does corruption inherit incorruption.Behold, I show you a secret truth: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible will have put on incorruption, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory."

The pre-trib doctrine was never preached before around 1830, and is in place to get people to accepth the anti-Messiah, they will be told "meeting Christ in the air is not literal, it's is a higher state of consciousness." The UN has been publishing magazines about thier comin "cosmic christ" for 40 years or something, called "Matreyu." (sp) You need to look into "PROJECT BLUE BEAM," they plan on using hologram technology to fake the second coming, and this is no cracker-jack attempt, it real and it's real serious. Many will fall for it if it happens.

Here are some links

CNN Hologram TV First - YouTube

CNN Will I Am Hologram, First time on TV - YouTube

223 - The New Age Agenda - Amazing Discoveries TV

625 - The Coming Cosmic Christ / Secrets of the Ages - John Triplett - YouTube

Project Blue Beam By Serge Monast (1994)
 
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Kerry

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Maybe today are you ready?
 
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IF there is going to be a Rapture, it is going to be Post-Trib.
There is NOT going to be a Pre-Trib Rapture. Sadly, MANY millions of people have already been deceived by this false doctrine. When the antichrist arrives (and he is NOT Barack Obama), they will be here to suffer through the Tribulation, just like the rest of us, or they will accept the Mark of the Beast.
 
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the "rapture" occurs at the end of the 1,000 yrs when the dead go up first, then those who are alive and remain[survivors of tribulation&descendants}so rapture occurs post trib by 1,000yrs anti-christ is a spirit its like the anti holy spirit,1st jn 2/18,2/22,4/3 satan wants his own trinity ,anti father, anti son, anti spirit...not a person, a spirit!!2nd jn 1/7
 
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more false gospel.

you have to "believe" in the rapture to be taken

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it's the tares who are "taken"
YES!!! Also, the analogy Jesus used was Noah's Flood. Who was taken (swept away)?? The wicked. But the Rapture believers think the one's taken from the field are heading off to a Rapture when Christ taught just the opposite.
 

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Get right or get left!
I want to be left. Those taken are swept away.

Mat 24:

37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Mat 13:

29 But he said, 'No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn." ' "

Prov 20:

26 A wise king sifts out the wicked, And brings the threshing wheel over them.

Prov 10:

30 The righteous will never be removed, But the wicked will not inhabit the earth.

Rev 14:

19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.


Are you sure you want to be the one taken Linda??? When you look at the Bible through the goggles of Satan's Rapture lie 1/3 of what you see becomes distorted. Look at Satan's trumpets, what percent is being affected?? 1/3. How much of the population is killed at the 6th trumpet? 1/3.
 
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ChosenbyHim

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more false gospel.

you have to "believe" in the rapture to be taken

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it's the tares who are "taken"

In the Rapture, only the believers are taken and caught up.


1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 KJV
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. [16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. [18] Wherefore comfort one another with these words.


Notice that it says that the "dead in Christ" shall rise first. Therefore only Born again Christians will be a part of the rapture. And that means all Christians. Both sanctified ones and carnal ones. Because the body of Christ must be removed from off of this earth first before the time of Jacob's trouble begins:


2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 KJV
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let , until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [9] Even him , whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
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none so blind as those who refuse to see. taken=destroyed,2nd peter2/12
 
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I want to be left. Those taken are swept away.

Mat 24:

37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Mat 13:

29 But he said, 'No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn." ' "

Prov 20:

26 A wise king sifts out the wicked, And brings the threshing wheel over them.

Prov 10:

30 The righteous will never be removed, But the wicked will not inhabit the earth.

Rev 14:

19 So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.


Are you sure you want to be the one taken Linda??? When you look at the Bible through the goggles of Satan's Rapture lie 1/3 of what you see becomes distorted. Look at Satan's trumpets, what percent is being affected?? 1/3. How much of the population is killed at the 6th trumpet? 1/3.

The oones who are taken are the righteous not the wicked , they are taken to be with Jesus for a 1000 years
 
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none so blind as those who refuse to see. taken=destroyed,2nd peter2/12

Mat 13:

29 But he said, 'No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn." ' "




if this is when Jesus comes the 2nd time who will the saints rule over if all the wicked are destroyed?
 

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none so blind as those who refuse to see. taken=destroyed,2nd peter2/12
Matthew 13:30
'Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn."
 
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YES!!! Also, the analogy Jesus used was Noah's Flood. Who was taken (swept away)?? The wicked. But the Rapture believers think the one's taken from the field are heading off to a Rapture when Christ taught just the opposite.

[h=3]Matthew 25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

25 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.



Why was not the tares taken first ?
 
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none so blind as those who refuse to see. taken=destroyed,2nd peter2/12

[h=3]Matthew 25[/h]King James Version (KJV)

25 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.



Why was the wise or wheat taken first and not the tares
 
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2. It is God's way, as shown in the Bible, to preserve His people in trouble rather than take them out of it.
God preserved Noah in the flood, Daniel in the lions den, the Hebrew three in the fiery furnace, and Israel in Egypt (Goshen) at the time of the terrible plagues.

The wrath of God and plagues will not be poured out on the saints "for God has not appointed us to wrath" but will be poured out on the wicked world that has worshiped the beast and taken his mark. (Rev. 14:9-11 & Rev. 16:1-6). while the saints are protected on the earth. God is well able to protect the righteous while punishing the wicked (II Peter 2:9). In a major battle while Israel was marching to the land of promise, God cast down great hailstones upon the enemy and slew more of the enemy than Israel slew with the sword, and not one Israelite was killed (Joshua 10:11).
 
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5. If the saints are raptured to heaven before the time of trouble, why did Jesus say in Matthew 24:22, "For the elect's sake those days will be shortened." The word elect means "chosen ones" and in scripture it refers to saved people, both Jew and Gentile. (Matt. 24:24, 31 & Luke 18:7). Also in Romans 8:33 and Colossians 3:12, Paul refers to Gentile saints as "God's elect."
 
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The anti-Christ and his kingdom of Babylon are destroyed in Revelation chapter 18, before the marriage supper of the Lamb which is told of in Revelation 19:1-9.
7. According to II Thessalonians 2:1-4 "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him"(the rapture) cannot occur "unless the falling away comes first and the man of sin (anti-Christ) is revealed" and "stands in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."