Christian leaders practising occultism for fame and riches

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I learned recently that a few of our world acclaimed evangelists are practicing occultism for fame and riches. Billy Graham, for example, is a 33 degree Freemason. Is this true? I want to know because I look up to him as a man of God.
 

1. Someone giving opinions on Yahoo Answers without giving documentation doesn't constitute evidence for, or against, anything.

2. I'm not aware of any solid, or corroborating evidence to verify Graham being involved with the Masons.

3. The only problem I've ever found with Billy Graham, that is documented, is some of his own quotations that make him appear to be a universalist late in his life. And in all honesty, this is a pretty serious thing.

4. I think it's DANGEROUS to put too much faith in ANY famous preacher... whether he's a good guy, or a bad guy.

Any preacher is just a man, and we don't know his heart, or what he does in private. It's much safer to take our faith OFF of the celebrity preachers, even the good ones, and put our faith solely in God, and in scripture. (This doesn't mean we can't listen to a famous preacher, they simply aren't the place we should be putting our faith.)
 
1. Someone giving opinions on Yahoo Answers without giving documentation doesn't constitute evidence for, or against, anything.

2. I'm not aware of any solid, or corroborating evidence to verify Graham being involved with the Masons.

3. The only problem I've ever found with Billy Graham, that is documented, is some of his own quotations that make him appear to be a universalist late in his life. And in all honesty, this is a pretty serious thing.

4. I think it's DANGEROUS to put too much faith in ANY famous preacher... whether he's a good guy, or a bad guy.

Any preacher is just a man, and we don't know his heart, or what he does in private. It's much safer to take our faith OFF of the celebrity preachers, even the good ones, and put our faith solely in God, and in scripture. (This doesn't mean we can't listen to a famous preacher, they simply aren't the place we should be putting our faith.)

Sorry I don't have an opinion on him. I just provide a source for them to get their answer because no looked like they were going to answer.
 
Sorry I don't have an opinion on him. I just provide a source for them to get their answer because no looked like they were going to answer.

Hey Drett,

I wasn't trying to beat you up or anything.
I just checked that link, and the guy didn't seem to give very good sources.
No big deal.
 
"List of 33rd Degree Masons
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Albert Pike addressing the 23 Supreme Councils of the world on July 14, 1889:- “To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: ‘the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine. . .”
It is said that only two U.S. Presidents: Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy, were not either Masons or elite members of affiliated bodies

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[TD="width: 55%"] John Adams
(King) Umberto Agnelli
Buzz Aldrin
Yasser Arafat
(Patriarch) Athenagoras I
Gene Autry
Tobias Axelrod
Rabbi Leo Baeck
Foster Bailey
Admiral G.W. Baird
Achille Ballori
M.H. Barroso
Bernard Mannes Baruch
Harry L. Baum
Daniel Carter Beard (Boy Scouts)
Justice Hugo Black
Jonathan Blanchard
Tony Blair
Rabbi Dr. Leo Baeck
Alain Bernheim
Rev. William Booth (Salvation Army)
John Wilkes Booth
Hayden C. Boyce
Werner von Braun
John C. Breckinridge
Sir Richard Burton
Senator Byrd
Plutarco Elias Calles
James Cameron
Jimmy Carter
Hugo Chavez
Richard Cheney
Sir Winston Churchill
Henry Clausen
William J. Clinton
Howell Cobb
James B. Conant
Kenneth Copeland
Copin-Albancelli
John H. Cowles
Adolphe Cremieux
Francesco Crispi
Delmar Darrah
Morris B. de Pass
Richard DeVos (Amway)
Walt. Disney
Sen. Bob Dole
General James Doolittle
John Drick
Allen Dulles
John Foster Dulles
Gerard (Papus) Encausse
Frederick Engels
Senator Sam J. Ervin
Walter M. Fleming
Gerald Rudolf Ford
Henry Ford
(King) Frederick II
Gaylord Freeman
Giuseppe Garibaldi
Newt. Gingrich
John Glenn
Barry Goldwater
Mikhail Gorbachev
Al Gore
J.J.J. Gourgas
Billy Graham
James Graham
Col. James “Bo” Gritz
Rev. Kenneth Hagin
Manly P. Hall
Mark Hatfield
Jesse Helms
Christian A. Herter
Richard Holbrooke
J. Edgar Hoover
Col. Edward Mandell House
King Hussein
Saddam Hussein
Burl Icle Ives
Jessie James
Rev. Jesse Jackson
Andrew Johnson
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Dr. Bob Jones Sr.
[/TD]
[TD="width: 55%"] Jack Kemp
Duke Michael of Kent
Alexander Kerensky
Henry Kissinger
C. Fred Kleinknecht
Kenneth S. Kleinknecht
Helmut Kohl
Ted Kollek
Arnoldo Krumm-Heller
Curtis Lemay
Adriano Lemmi
Lyman Lemnitzer
Vladimir Lenin
McIlyar H. Lichliter
Albert Lontaine
Gen. Douglas MacArthur
Sir Henry MacMahon
Robert McNamara
Vasili Maklakov
Domenico Margiotta
Thurgood Marshall
James G. Martin
Karl Marx
(Baron) Yves Marsaudon
Joseph Mazzini
Lord Alfred Milner
Francoir Mitterand
Henry Morgenthau
Benjamin Netanyahu
G. Bromley Oxnam
Olof Palme
Henry Palmerston
Shimon Peres
Albert Pike
Dr. Norman Vincent Peale
Prince Phillip
Roscoe Pound
(Gen.) Colin L. Powell
Major General John Quitman
Yitzak Rabin
Ronald Reagan
Joseph Rettinger
Harman Gansvort Reynolds
Marshall S. Reynolds
Michel Reyt
Cecil Rhodes
Oral Roberts
Franklin D.Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt
Paul Rosen
James Rothschild
Charles Taze Russell
Bishop Carl J. Sanders
Jacob Schiff
Gerhard Schroeder
Rev. Robert Schuller
Rev. Al Sharpton
Senator Simpson
Joseph Stalin
Rudolph Steiner
R.W. Thompson
Storm Thurmond
Leon Trotsky
Harry S. Truman
Pierre G. Vassal
Felix Warburg
Paul Moritz Warburg
Earl Warren
George Warvelle
Chaim Weizmann
H.G. Wells
William Wynn Westcott
Earl Wheeler
Leo Wheeler
John Yarker
Leon Zeldis"
[/TD]
 
33rd Degree Masons | Planet Infowars

"List of 33rd Degree Masons
guildlogobar.gif
Albert Pike addressing the 23 Supreme Councils of the world on July 14, 1889:- “To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: ‘the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine. . .”
It is said that only two U.S. Presidents: Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy, were not either Masons or elite members of affiliated bodies

[TD="width: 55%"] John Adams
(King) Umberto Agnelli
Buzz Aldrin
Yasser Arafat
(Patriarch) Athenagoras I
Gene Autry
Tobias Axelrod
Rabbi Leo Baeck
Foster Bailey
Admiral G.W. Baird
Achille Ballori
M.H. Barroso
Bernard Mannes Baruch
Harry L. Baum
Daniel Carter Beard (Boy Scouts)
Justice Hugo Black
Jonathan Blanchard
Tony Blair
Rabbi Dr. Leo Baeck
Alain Bernheim
Rev. William Booth (Salvation Army)
John Wilkes Booth
Hayden C. Boyce
Werner von Braun
John C. Breckinridge
Sir Richard Burton
Senator Byrd
Plutarco Elias Calles
James Cameron
Jimmy Carter
Hugo Chavez
Richard Cheney
Sir Winston Churchill
Henry Clausen
William J. Clinton
Howell Cobb
James B. Conant
Kenneth Copeland
Copin-Albancelli
John H. Cowles
Adolphe Cremieux
Francesco Crispi
Delmar Darrah
Morris B. de Pass
Richard DeVos (Amway)
Walt. Disney
Sen. Bob Dole
General James Doolittle
John Drick
Allen Dulles
John Foster Dulles
Gerard (Papus) Encausse
Frederick Engels
Senator Sam J. Ervin
Walter M. Fleming
Gerald Rudolf Ford
Henry Ford
(King) Frederick II
Gaylord Freeman
Giuseppe Garibaldi
Newt. Gingrich
John Glenn
Barry Goldwater
Mikhail Gorbachev
Al Gore
J.J.J. Gourgas
Billy Graham
James Graham
Col. James “Bo” Gritz
Rev. Kenneth Hagin
Manly P. Hall
Mark Hatfield
Jesse Helms
Christian A. Herter
Richard Holbrooke
J. Edgar Hoover
Col. Edward Mandell House
King Hussein
Saddam Hussein
Burl Icle Ives
Jessie James
Rev. Jesse Jackson
Andrew Johnson
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Dr. Bob Jones Sr.

[/TD]
[TD="width: 55%"] Jack Kemp
Duke Michael of Kent
Alexander Kerensky
Henry Kissinger
C. Fred Kleinknecht
Kenneth S. Kleinknecht
Helmut Kohl
Ted Kollek
Arnoldo Krumm-Heller
Curtis Lemay
Adriano Lemmi
Lyman Lemnitzer
Vladimir Lenin
McIlyar H. Lichliter
Albert Lontaine
Gen. Douglas MacArthur
Sir Henry MacMahon
Robert McNamara
Vasili Maklakov
Domenico Margiotta
Thurgood Marshall
James G. Martin
Karl Marx
(Baron) Yves Marsaudon
Joseph Mazzini
Lord Alfred Milner
Francoir Mitterand
Henry Morgenthau
Benjamin Netanyahu
G. Bromley Oxnam
Olof Palme
Henry Palmerston
Shimon Peres
Albert Pike
Dr. Norman Vincent Peale
Prince Phillip
Roscoe Pound
(Gen.) Colin L. Powell
Major General John Quitman
Yitzak Rabin
Ronald Reagan
Joseph Rettinger
Harman Gansvort Reynolds
Marshall S. Reynolds
Michel Reyt
Cecil Rhodes
Oral Roberts
Franklin D.Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt
Paul Rosen
James Rothschild
Charles Taze Russell
Bishop Carl J. Sanders
Jacob Schiff
Gerhard Schroeder
Rev. Robert Schuller
Rev. Al Sharpton
Senator Simpson
Joseph Stalin
Rudolph Steiner
R.W. Thompson
Storm Thurmond
Leon Trotsky
Harry S. Truman
Pierre G. Vassal
Felix Warburg
Paul Moritz Warburg
Earl Warren
George Warvelle
Chaim Weizmann
H.G. Wells
William Wynn Westcott
Earl Wheeler
Leo Wheeler
John Yarker
Leon Zeldis"

[/TD]

So, yes, it would appear that Billy Graham is on this list. The problem is how reliable is this source
 
I learned recently that a few of our world acclaimed evangelists are practicing occultism for fame and riches. Billy Graham, for example, is a 33 degree Freemason. Is this true? I want to know because I look up to him as a man of God.

Mistake #1. Never look up any man or any preacher.
 
Mistake #1. Never look up any man or any preacher.

Well, this sums it up nicely and, though I hesitate to use such a word, perfectly.

Hero worship is HUGE nowadays. This is why megachurches exist. They go to worship the speaker, not worship the Living God. I was guilty of hero worship in the form of looking up to my Pastor long ago to the point that he was able to warp the Communion experience and taint the body of Christ with cultic mentalities. I have been set free from this, because God is good.

Those pastors and book writers and speakers and leaders are first human and secondly spiritual. It would be amazing if we could be spiritual first and always, but alas, we have our flesh and filters to contend with. Every Scripture read and then preached is done so through the filters of the preacher/teacher/speaker. Then, when it is heard, it is heard through the filter of the listener and then regurgitated to others through their filter of understanding, which is then heard by those listeners through their filters and so on and so forth.

So, simply put, test every thing spoken and approved of against one source: the word of God. That's it. Yes, there are preachers/teachers/speakers out there that I love to listen to, but I always return to the source. I always go to God's word and to Jesus Christ in prayer for clarity. I, personally, really like Billy Graham. His messages were always simple: Jesus loves you, Jesus died for you, Jesus rose again, get saved, be born again. No fancy dancing. No fancy lights and sounds and illustrations. Just the simplicity of the Gospel.

If only we could all do likewise. :) The only one ever correct 100 percent of the time is Jesus Christ. Us mortal vessels are prone to error and pride and listening to our filters, rather than Holy Spirit. :)