Problems with the Missouri Synod Lutheran Chrurch.

[RedTent]

This church has decided that they are infallibly correct in every interpretation of the bible, that they are the only people who are correct. Their members may not visit another church. All of this, they say, is contained in their book called Book of Concord. If any member even visits another church, they would seem to agree with the doctrines of that church and be against God for every church has some errors in interpretation but them. Most Lutherans are not a member of the Missouri Synod for this reason.

Their ministers are not even allowed to be part of any civil gathering, like when ministers unite in a council meeting.

In the bible it states that Co 12:13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--Jews or Greeks, slaves or free--and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. That one spirit comes through Jesus Christ, not the Missouri Synod Lutheran.

We can know members of this universal church by their love for each other. Joh_13:35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." Most Lutheran Churches include these doctrines, but not the Missouri Synod.

 

[Kerry]

Some baptist teach that if don't attend their church, you want make it. Sad to limit God to mans ability. Shame. Its like the young man that went to the a certain preacher and asked, " is it true that once saved always saved". The preacher said "yes". The young took a pistol and blew his brains out. Shame.

 

[John_S]

When Jesus Christ returns to end the Tribulation, EVERY religious denomination - Christian and not Christian - will become things of the past. This nonsense will no longer happen. The people will follow the words and examples of Jesus Christ for, at least, 1000 years. Satan will not be around to ruin things.

 

[RickShafer]

This would explain alot.

 

[1still_waters]

Got any links? Sources?
At least give us a wikipedia link, or a link to a geocities home page that hasn't existed since 1999.
Anything?

 

[notuptome]

Such things have been said about many denominations. Most likely such an allegation comes from the catholic church teaching that they are the church that Christ founded when Christ addressed Peter. The Lutherans split off from the catholics and have been slowly drifting back into mother romes arms.

It has been my experience that any person who claims to know with certainty that they will go to heaven will be called exclusive in their doctrine by those who have no certain or sure hope of eternity. if you have not been accused of thinking you're the only one who knows the way to heaven then you have not been witnessing to the lost very often.

take this thread with a huge grain of salt.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Bookends]

This church has decided that they are infallibly correct in every interpretation of the bible, that they are the only people who are correct. Their members may not visit another church. All of this, they say, is contained in their book called Book of Concord. If any member even visits another church, they would seem to agree with the doctrines of that church and be against God for every church has some errors in interpretation but them. Most Lutherans are not a member of the Missouri Synod for this reason.

Their ministers are not even allowed to be part of any civil gathering, like when ministers unite in a council meeting.

In the bible it states that Co 12:13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--Jews or Greeks, slaves or free--and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. That one spirit comes through Jesus Christ, not the Missouri Synod Lutheran.

We can know members of this universal church by their love for each other. Joh_13:35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." Most Lutheran Churches include these doctrines, but not the Missouri Synod.

Well don't you teach that if you are a Sunday Church goer you take on the mark of the beast?

 

[RedTent]

Got any links? Sources?
At least give us a wikipedia link, or a link to a geocities home page that hasn't existed since 1999.
Anything?

I first found this out about this synod when I attended this church back in the 60's. Several years ago a friend asked me to go to bible study at this synod, and the minister who led it verified this was what they believed in.

I did a google search today, to be sure I was reporting correctly, and that search sent me to their home page. Takes a lot of digging there about their beliefs to find this. There are many sites that tell of the upset in the Lutheran Church when other synods found they could not be a part of the Missouri Synod any longer, with several hours work needed to verify all this.

I went through so many sites, spent so many hours at this, I think it would be easier for you to do your own search. I hope you will report on this, too.

 

[RickShafer]

Ohhhhhh, Ahhhhh, no easy wikipedia.....
So actual labor intensive research might be necessary?
- WHAT SHALL WE DO?
-- (whatever shall we do?)

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I went through so many sites, spent so many hours at this, I think it would be easier for you to do your own search. I hope you will report on this, too.

I doubt anyone will be interested enough to do so.

 

[RedTent]

Well don't you teach that if you are a Sunday Church goer you take on the mark of the beast?

Why ever would you write that I said because my church has church on Sunday, I take on the "mark of the beast?" Because I think Saturday church would follow bible closer and have said so? What judgments you are making. Is it because I am reporting a belief of a certain church? Are you saying that Saturday church goers take on the mark of the beast? Scripture says not to judge, and specifically says not to judge about worship days.

I am reporting a belief that a certain church has, and quoting scripture that I think says it is not the way bible would have us do. We aren't discussing Sat. vs Sun. worship.

 

[1still_waters]

I went through so many sites, spent so many hours at this, I think it would be easier for you to do your own search. I hope you will report on this, too.

Lol usually the burden of proof rests on the one making the assertions.

Imagine Martin Luther going to the Catholic Church, his audience, making his assertions, and then saying...oh yeah um...look it up yourself. ...

 

[zone]

This church has decided that they are infallibly correct in every interpretation of the bible, that they are the only people who are correct.

false.

Their members may not visit another church.

false

All of this, they say, is contained in their book called Book of Concord.

document?

If any member even visits another church, they would seem to agree with the doctrines of that church and be against God for every church has some errors in interpretation but them.

lol....document?

Most Lutherans are not a member of the Missouri Synod for this reason.

false

Their ministers are not even allowed to be part of any civil gathering, like when ministers unite in a council meeting.

document?

In the bible it states that Co 12:13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--Jews or Greeks, slaves or free--and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

true.

That one spirit comes through Jesus Christ, not the Missouri Synod Lutheran.

true.

We can know members of this universal church by their love for each other.

true.

Joh_13:35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."

amen.

Most Lutheran Churches include these doctrines, but not the Missouri Synod.

which doctrines 'aren't included' in LCMS?

Joh_13:35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another."

??

document please?

 

[zone]

I first found this out about this synod when I attended this church back in the 60's. Several years ago a friend asked me to go to bible study at this synod, and the minister who led it verified this was what they believed in.

I did a google search today, to be sure I was reporting correctly, and that search sent me to their home page. Takes a lot of digging there about their beliefs to find this. There are many sites that tell of the upset in the Lutheran Church when other synods found they could not be a part of the Missouri Synod any longer, with several hours work needed to verify all this.

I went through so many sites, spent so many hours at this, I think it would be easier for you to do your own search. I hope you will report on this, too.

do you have anything?
a book? the pastor's name?
any links to your study?

maybe you do....looking....

 

[zone]

I am reporting a belief that a certain church has......

not so far.


looking.....

 

[Praus]

I went through so many sites, spent so many hours at this, I think it would be easier for you to do your own search. I hope you will report on this, too.

"But whoever wrote this bull, he is Antichrist. I protest before God, our Lord Jesus, his sacred angels, and the whole world that with my whole heart I dissent from the damnation of this bull, that I curse and execrate it as sacrilege and blasphemy of Christ, God's Son and our Lord.

"Why do we not honor the heretic if damning is all that it takes? .... I can distinguish between inane paper and the omnipotent Word of God."
--Adversus execrabilem Antichristi Bullam, Martin Luther (1520)

 

[zone]

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Re: Problems with the Missouri Synod Lutheran Chrurch.

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[Angela53510]

My aunt and cousin are lifetime members of the Missouri Synod and have no problems with visiting other churches. They are both devoted Christians and I respect them totally. My daughter's best friend's mom, who I often discussed faith with also does not believe this and she was educated at a Lutheran university, both undergrad and Bachelor's level.

Perhaps a link, rather than 50 year old hearsay would be the answer.

Of course, I would expect this kind of nonsense from the OP. Esp. in light of how often she talks about loving and not judging other Christians.

 

[crossnote]

This church has decided that they are infallibly correct in every interpretation of the bible, that they are the only people who are correct. Their members may not visit another church. All of this, they say, is contained in their book called Book of Concord. If any member even visits another church, they would seem to agree with the doctrines of that church and be against God for every church has some errors in interpretation but them. Most Lutherans are not a member of the Missouri Synod for this reason.

Their ministers are not even allowed to be part of any civil gathering, like when ministers unite in a council meeting.

In the bible it states that Co 12:13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--Jews or Greeks, slaves or free--and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. That one spirit comes through Jesus Christ, not the Missouri Synod Lutheran.

We can know members of this universal church by their love for each other. Joh_13:35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." Most Lutheran Churches include these doctrines, but not the Missouri Synod.

My experience in the Lutheran Church including Missouri is that the above is grossly inaccurate.
What was described fits closer to WELS or the CLC.,they tend to be more pietistic.
WELS and CLC will not share pastors, communion or even table prayers with other Synods.
Yes LCMS tends to be dogmatic but is that a crime? Their usual approach is to challenge another to show them what part of the BOC is unscriptural?

 

[RickShafer]

"But whoever wrote this bull, he is Antichrist. I protest before God, our Lord Jesus, his sacred angels, and the whole world that with my whole heart I dissent from the damnation of this bull, that I curse and execrate it as sacrilege and blasphemy of Christ, God's Son and our Lord.

"Why do we not honor the heretic if damning is all that it takes? .... I can distinguish between inane paper and the omnipotent Word of God."
--Adversus execrabilem Antichristi Bullam, Martin Luther (1520)

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Praus, don't sacrifice a soul for a denomination.
Do you honestly think any Lutheran church represents Martin Luther?
Papal Bull? Really?
You are sending out a Papal Bull against Red Tent?
Are you the pope?
Holy Praus.
Pious Praus the XIV.
Holy relic of elixer.
Pope Pontiff of Christ's Bloody Sacrament within his satin under pants.....
High Peter Pope Praus, he of the holy underwear and ruby encrusted golden goblets........
Let us all pray for mercy to Pope Praus and his highly exalted head of state.......

- Alright, I'm out of effigies.