12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country

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zone

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Jun 13, 2010
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#41
will you read it.

or just opinions. ya....okay.

...

opinion piece:

Konspeerisees r reel.

i no. 4sho.

ok.

very good. JFK killed by not oswald only.

no proof needed.

okay. thank you.

very good.
 
Aug 10, 2013
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#44
12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country - Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire
View attachment 61561

About 90 million Americans believe aliens exist. Some 66 million of us think aliens landed at Roswell in 1948. These are the things you learn when there's a lull in political news and pollsters get to ask whatever questions they want.
Update, October 31: We've figured out who the government reptilians are, using science.
Public Policy Polling has raised weird polls to an art form. During last year's presidential campaign, the firm earned a bit of a reputation for its unorthodox questions; for example, "If God exists, do you approve of its handling of natural disasters?"
Today PPP released the results of a national survey looking at common conspiracy theories. Broken down by topic and cross-referenced by political preference, the results will not inspire a lot of patriotism. If you need to defend your fellow countrymen, be sure to note that the margin of error is 2.8 percent.
We took the findings and arranged them from most- to least-believed. And, just to inspire additional shame, figured out how many actual Americans that meant must believe in things like the danger of fluoride in water. (28 million, if you're wondering.)
View the full question asked for each conspiracy.
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Conspiracy
[/TD]
[TD]Percent believing
[/TD]
[TD]Number of Americans believing
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JFK was killed by conspiracy
[/TD]
[TD]51 percent
[/TD]
[TD]160,096,160
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bush intentionally misled on Iraq WMDs
[/TD]
[TD]44 percent
[/TD]
[TD]138,122,178
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Global warming is a hoax
[/TD]
[TD]37 percent
[/TD]
[TD]116,148,195
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Aliens exist
[/TD]
[TD]29 percent
[/TD]
[TD]91,035,072
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]New World Order
[/TD]
[TD]28 percent
[/TD]
[TD]87,895,931
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Hussein was involved in 9/11
[/TD]
[TD]28 percent
[/TD]
[TD]87,895,931
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]A UFO crashed at Roswell
[/TD]
[TD]21 percent
[/TD]
[TD]65,921,948
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Vaccines are linked to autism
[/TD]
[TD]20 percent
[/TD]
[TD]62,782,808
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The government controls minds with TV
[/TD]
[TD]15 percent
[/TD]
[TD]47,087,106
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Medical industry invents diseases
[/TD]
[TD]15 percent
[/TD]
[TD]47,087,106
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]CIA developed crack
[/TD]
[TD]14 percent
[/TD]
[TD]43,947,966
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Bigfoot exists
[/TD]
[TD]14 percent
[/TD]
[TD]43,947,966
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Obama is the Antichrist
[/TD]
[TD]13 percent
[/TD]
[TD]40,808,825
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The government allowed 9/11
[/TD]
[TD]11 percent
[/TD]
[TD]34,530,544
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Fluoride is dangerous
[/TD]
[TD]9 percent
[/TD]
[TD]28,252,264
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The moon landing was faked
[/TD]
[TD]7 percent
[/TD]
[TD]21,973,983
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Bin Laden is alive
[/TD]
[TD]6 percent
[/TD]
[TD]18,834,842
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Airplane contrails are sinister chemicals
[/TD]
[TD]5 percent
[/TD]
[TD]15,695,702
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]McCartney died in 1966
[/TD]
[TD]5 percent
[/TD]
[TD]15,695,702
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Lizard people control politics
[/TD]
[TD]4 percent
[/TD]
[TD]12,556,562
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Just to further inspire conversation, PPP broke down belief in each theory by whom the respondent supported in the 2012 election. This yielded some genuinely interesting results.
However, of the US's 300 million population, approximately 288 million (96 %) do not.
 
A

AgeofKnowledge

Guest
#46
Only 12 million American believe that Obama is the lizard king. Figures extrapolated from the poll results reveal that more than 40 million Americans think Obama is the devil.

Barack Obama is the Lizard-King, Say 12 Million Americans - IBTimes UK


Obama the defiler.

Now we all know Obama isn't the actual devil. He's a devil. There is a difference and we need to get the truth out to the 40 million that believe he's Satan incarnate.
 
Aug 10, 2013
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#47
12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country - Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire
View attachment 61561

So, how were these figures compiled. So they found the time to interview 90 million or more people? Why isn't the total sample of participants known? Note how these figures are omitted? Come on, think about it? March 27-30, 2013survey of 1,247 registered voters

"PPP surveyed 1,247 registered American voters from March 27th to 30th"

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf




About 90 million Americans believe aliens exist. Some 66 million of us think aliens landed at Roswell in 1948. These are the things you learn when there's a lull in political news and pollsters get to ask whatever questions they want.
Update, October 31: We've figured out who the government reptilians are, using science.
Public Policy Polling has raised weird polls to an art form. During last year's presidential campaign, the firm earned a bit of a reputation for its unorthodox questions; for example, "If God exists, do you approve of its handling of natural disasters?"
Today PPP released the results of a national survey looking at common conspiracy theories. Broken down by topic and cross-referenced by political preference, the results will not inspire a lot of patriotism. If you need to defend your fellow countrymen, be sure to note that the margin of error is 2.8 percent.
We took the findings and arranged them from most- to least-believed. And, just to inspire additional shame, figured out how many actual Americans that meant must believe in things like the danger of fluoride in water. (28 million, if you're wondering.)
View the full question asked for each conspiracy.
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Conspiracy
[/TD]
[TD]Percent believing
[/TD]
[TD]Number of Americans believing
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JFK was killed by conspiracy
[/TD]
[TD]51 percent
[/TD]
[TD]160,096,160
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bush intentionally misled on Iraq WMDs
[/TD]
[TD]44 percent
[/TD]
[TD]138,122,178
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Global warming is a hoax
[/TD]
[TD]37 percent
[/TD]
[TD]116,148,195
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Aliens exist
[/TD]
[TD]29 percent
[/TD]
[TD]91,035,072
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]New World Order
[/TD]
[TD]28 percent
[/TD]
[TD]87,895,931
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Hussein was involved in 9/11
[/TD]
[TD]28 percent
[/TD]
[TD]87,895,931
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]A UFO crashed at Roswell
[/TD]
[TD]21 percent
[/TD]
[TD]65,921,948
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Vaccines are linked to autism
[/TD]
[TD]20 percent
[/TD]
[TD]62,782,808
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The government controls minds with TV
[/TD]
[TD]15 percent
[/TD]
[TD]47,087,106
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Medical industry invents diseases
[/TD]
[TD]15 percent
[/TD]
[TD]47,087,106
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]CIA developed crack
[/TD]
[TD]14 percent
[/TD]
[TD]43,947,966
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Bigfoot exists
[/TD]
[TD]14 percent
[/TD]
[TD]43,947,966
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Obama is the Antichrist
[/TD]
[TD]13 percent
[/TD]
[TD]40,808,825
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The government allowed 9/11
[/TD]
[TD]11 percent
[/TD]
[TD]34,530,544
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Fluoride is dangerous
[/TD]
[TD]9 percent
[/TD]
[TD]28,252,264
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The moon landing was faked
[/TD]
[TD]7 percent
[/TD]
[TD]21,973,983
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Bin Laden is alive
[/TD]
[TD]6 percent
[/TD]
[TD]18,834,842
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Airplane contrails are sinister chemicals
[/TD]
[TD]5 percent
[/TD]
[TD]15,695,702
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]McCartney died in 1966
[/TD]
[TD]5 percent
[/TD]
[TD]15,695,702
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Lizard people control politics
[/TD]
[TD]4 percent
[/TD]
[TD]12,556,562
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Just to further inspire conversation, PPP broke down belief in each theory by whom the respondent supported in the 2012 election. This yielded some genuinely interesting results.
There's statistics, lies, and people who have no understanding of statistics.
 
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J

jimmydiggs

Guest
#48
12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country - Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire
View attachment 61561

About 90 million Americans believe aliens exist. Some 66 million of us think aliens landed at Roswell in 1948. These are the things you learn when there's a lull in political news and pollsters get to ask whatever questions they want.
Update, October 31: We've figured out who the government reptilians are, using science.
Public Policy Polling has raised weird polls to an art form. During last year's presidential campaign, the firm earned a bit of a reputation for its unorthodox questions; for example, "If God exists, do you approve of its handling of natural disasters?"
Today PPP released the results of a national survey looking at common conspiracy theories. Broken down by topic and cross-referenced by political preference, the results will not inspire a lot of patriotism. If you need to defend your fellow countrymen, be sure to note that the margin of error is 2.8 percent.
We took the findings and arranged them from most- to least-believed. And, just to inspire additional shame, figured out how many actual Americans that meant must believe in things like the danger of fluoride in water. (28 million, if you're wondering.)
View the full question asked for each conspiracy.
[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Conspiracy
[/TD]
[TD]Percent believing
[/TD]
[TD]Number of Americans believing
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]JFK was killed by conspiracy
[/TD]
[TD]51 percent
[/TD]
[TD]160,096,160
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bush intentionally misled on Iraq WMDs
[/TD]
[TD]44 percent
[/TD]
[TD]138,122,178
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Global warming is a hoax
[/TD]
[TD]37 percent
[/TD]
[TD]116,148,195
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Aliens exist
[/TD]
[TD]29 percent
[/TD]
[TD]91,035,072
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]New World Order
[/TD]
[TD]28 percent
[/TD]
[TD]87,895,931
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Hussein was involved in 9/11
[/TD]
[TD]28 percent
[/TD]
[TD]87,895,931
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]A UFO crashed at Roswell
[/TD]
[TD]21 percent
[/TD]
[TD]65,921,948
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Vaccines are linked to autism
[/TD]
[TD]20 percent
[/TD]
[TD]62,782,808
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The government controls minds with TV
[/TD]
[TD]15 percent
[/TD]
[TD]47,087,106
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Medical industry invents diseases
[/TD]
[TD]15 percent
[/TD]
[TD]47,087,106
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]CIA developed crack
[/TD]
[TD]14 percent
[/TD]
[TD]43,947,966
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Bigfoot exists
[/TD]
[TD]14 percent
[/TD]
[TD]43,947,966
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Obama is the Antichrist
[/TD]
[TD]13 percent
[/TD]
[TD]40,808,825
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The government allowed 9/11
[/TD]
[TD]11 percent
[/TD]
[TD]34,530,544
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Fluoride is dangerous
[/TD]
[TD]9 percent
[/TD]
[TD]28,252,264
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]The moon landing was faked
[/TD]
[TD]7 percent
[/TD]
[TD]21,973,983
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Bin Laden is alive
[/TD]
[TD]6 percent
[/TD]
[TD]18,834,842
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Airplane contrails are sinister chemicals
[/TD]
[TD]5 percent
[/TD]
[TD]15,695,702
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]McCartney died in 1966
[/TD]
[TD]5 percent
[/TD]
[TD]15,695,702
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 300"]Lizard people control politics
[/TD]
[TD]4 percent
[/TD]
[TD]12,556,562
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Just to further inspire conversation, PPP broke down belief in each theory by whom the respondent supported in the 2012 election. This yielded some genuinely interesting results.

The ones in blue are probably partially true.
 
Mar 1, 2012
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#49
Bigfoot is the leader of the illuminati.

Global warming is a hoax perpetrated by aliens

George Bush did not lie about wmd, Saddam Hussein had flouride

The moon landing was not faked because on the moon we found proof Lizard people control politics.

Bin Laden was killed by chemical trails left by ufo's the aliens were using to find Bigfoot after the illuminati attacked their base in Antartica that was melting the polar caps which gave rise to the Global warming myth and to keep that quiet the CIA created crack, which was actually flouride, which the government uses to control your mind through electirc waves produced by your tv's.

By the way liberalism is also satanic and makes your breath stink
 
T

tdrew777

Guest
#50
Let me run that through snipes.
 
T

tdrew777

Guest
#51
S N O P E S. Stupid spell-checker!
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
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#52
Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes
Review of fresh evidence finds jab given to 6 million people in Britain can occasionally cause sleep disorder

Ian Sample, science correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 19 September 2013 19.32 BST
Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes | Society | The Guardian

...

Sleeping Sickness: A W5 investigation into the sudden rise in childhood narcolepsy

Her parents took Makenna off her medication temporarily to show W5 the effects of the disorder. As they play a board game in the kitchen, her head starts to bob and then Makenna face hits the table.

Then there is a bizarre related symptom called cataplexy, which also affects her. Makenna suddenly loses muscle control and collapses when she laughs or feels strong emotions, something that happens to the eight-year-old several times a day.
Read more: Sleeping Sickness: A W5 investigation into the sudden rise in childhood narcolepsy
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
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#53
Now Legal Immunity for Swine flu Vaccine Makers

By F. William Engdahl
Global Research, July 20, 2009

The US Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, has just signed a decree granting vaccine makers total legal immunity from any lawsuits that result from any new “Swine Flu” vaccine. Moreover, the $7 billion US Government fast-track program to rush vaccines onto the market in time for the Autumn flu season is being done without even normal safety testing. Is there another agenda at work in the official WHO hysteria campaign to declare so-called H1N1 virus—which has yet to be rigorously scientifically isolated, characterized and photographed with an electron microscope—the scientifically accepted procedure—a global “pandemic” threat?
Now Legal Immunity for Swine flu Vaccine Makers | Global Research
 

XYZ

Banned
Oct 17, 2013
89
0
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#54
Now Legal Immunity for Swine flu Vaccine Makers

By F. William Engdahl
Global Research, July 20, 2009

The US Secretary of Health and Human Services, Kathleen Sebelius, has just signed a decree granting vaccine makers total legal immunity from any lawsuits that result from any new “Swine Flu” vaccine. Moreover, the $7 billion US Government fast-track program to rush vaccines onto the market in time for the Autumn flu season is being done without even normal safety testing. Is there another agenda at work in the official WHO hysteria campaign to declare so-called H1N1 virus—which has yet to be rigorously scientifically isolated, characterized and photographed with an electron microscope—the scientifically accepted procedure—a global “pandemic” threat?
Now Legal Immunity for Swine flu Vaccine Makers | Global Research
This article does a lot of relating things that can be discounted as irrelevant, unsourced, unverified or just plain conspiratorial for the sake of it.

For instance, it talks about the MMR vaccine, manufactured by the UK Pharma company, GlaxoSmithKline. It relates it to outbreaks of 'reactions' in Japan. It's literally as vague as that. It also cites outbreaks of 'Chrohn's Disease' in Sweden.

I've had the MMR, so have my whole family, all my friends, my friends friends, practically everyone at my school, and I've NEVER known anybody to have had a reaction of any kind to it other than the kind of skin reaction that vaccinations create. I've also had the BCG injection, the polio injection, diptheria, etc etc. Never had so much as a cough from them.

The article also does a lot of building up negatives about people and then making a point that otherwise, without being sucked into their negative aura, isn't at all difficult to rationalize logically. For instance, the Dr Salisbury, who is overseeing the H1N1 vaccination protocol (allegedly), had been the advisor to the relevant UK health councils concerning the 'risk' that a strain of MMR jab containing the Urabe mumps virus allegedly held according to reports that are, again, un-referenced in the article. It does not specifically say what those 'concerns' were. They could have been the general concerns that a country's Health Organizations might have before they legalize release of fluid that is going to be pumped into hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of citizens bloodstreams .. y'know?

It tries to relate past conspiracies (unproven ones) to its newfound conspiracy, as some kind of 'proof' where no proof exists.

I've also had a look at the author's other books, and each one of them is virtually without references or any form of proof. It's just reams of unsubstantiated, blunt, direct claims on people. No ideology. No seeming morality, empathy or any form of emotion that I belive a person writing about such horrific 'atrocities' would need to display for the 'victims'.

Also, he has no qualifications in historical subjects that I can find whatsoever, but claims to be a 'historian'.

Sorry Zone, I don't believe it.

This, however, is magically delicious:

Atavism, A 9/11 Anniversary Waltz | Global Research
 

XYZ

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#56
Excerpt: (the article is about the primitive part of the brain. The R-Complex, or 'lizard brain', and how media and hysteria affect it into submission)

It’s intrinsic to vertebrate evolution, since it’s the first

primitive thought pattern and cerebrative mode of action.
In non-cerebrating, cold-blooded vertebrates,
pecking order is completely genetically mechanical.

Each level assumes authority over the one below it,
fostering unquestioning obedience to authority
instead of individual freedom of judgment and action
and paves the way for a dictator’s rise to glory

or that of a small, dictatorial cabal
which assumes it has the right to command,
enforce dogma and obedience, and make all final decisions
while promoting their own private interests and personal plans.

Ritual is a way of doing things,
an obligatory ceremony set in concrete,
considered right and proper, with a strict set of rules
established by custom, by habit or by authority.

Territoriality. Provincialism.
Proprietary indentification with the “Homeland”.
Hierarchical behavior. Xenophobia.
Authoritarianism and Unprovoked Aggression.

Ritual ties them all together and reinforces them,
ax of aggression in the center. This is the fasces,
an ax tied up in the middle of a bunch of rods,
the symbol of the Roman Empire’s iron authority.

We need more terror to sustain our Foreign Policy,

so laws were passed to create the levers of power
for declaring martial law and suspending elections.
We’re one False Flag from living under Big Brother.

But since the brain can resist the reptile’s siren song,
they need to do an end run ’round the neo-cortex sentry
and speak directly to the dinosaur component
that longs to hear the talking points of tyranny.

And the only way to achieve these obscene objectives
is to play the last card left in the neoconservative deck.
They punch down through the volatile limbic system
with a massive dose of terror in order to affect

what was once held in check by the distractions
of the smokescreen we call the American Dream,
and resurrect it from the depths of the reptilian R-complex
by sacrificing what makes us human beings,

replacing it with the atavism of the reptile “mind”
by using “Remember the Maine!” and the Lusitania,
the Gulf of Tonkin and Pearl Harbor-like False Flags
to rouse The People into a terrified hysteria

and get us to acquiesce to the neutering
of our constitutional freedoms and unalienable rights
and support what the Nuremberg Tribunals termed a war of aggression,
the supreme and most heinous international crime.
 
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zone

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#57
This article does a lot of relating things that can be discounted as irrelevant, unsourced, unverified or just plain conspiratorial for the sake of it.

For instance, it talks about the MMR vaccine, manufactured by the UK Pharma company, GlaxoSmithKline. It relates it to outbreaks of 'reactions' in Japan. It's literally as vague as that. It also cites outbreaks of 'Chrohn's Disease' in Sweden.

I've had the MMR, so have my whole family, all my friends, my friends friends, practically everyone at my school, and I've NEVER known anybody to have had a reaction of any kind to it other than the kind of skin reaction that vaccinations create. I've also had the BCG injection, the polio injection, diptheria, etc etc. Never had so much as a cough from them.

The article also does a lot of building up negatives about people and then making a point that otherwise, without being sucked into their negative aura, isn't at all difficult to rationalize logically. For instance, the Dr Salisbury, who is overseeing the H1N1 vaccination protocol (allegedly), had been the advisor to the relevant UK health councils concerning the 'risk' that a strain of MMR jab containing the Urabe mumps virus allegedly held according to reports that are, again, un-referenced in the article. It does not specifically say what those 'concerns' were. They could have been the general concerns that a country's Health Organizations might have before they legalize release of fluid that is going to be pumped into hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of citizens bloodstreams .. y'know?

It tries to relate past conspiracies (unproven ones) to its newfound conspiracy, as some kind of 'proof' where no proof exists.

I've also had a look at the author's other books, and each one of them is virtually without references or any form of proof. It's just reams of unsubstantiated, blunt, direct claims on people. No ideology. No seeming morality, empathy or any form of emotion that I belive a person writing about such horrific 'atrocities' would need to display for the 'victims'.

Also, he has no qualifications in historical subjects that I can find whatsoever, but claims to be a 'historian'.

Sorry Zone, I don't believe it.

This, however, is magically delicious:

Atavism, A 9/11 Anniversary Waltz | Global Research
well, frankly i don't care if you believe it:)

i won't be doing your homework for you.

updated 7/20/2009 10:47:22 AM ET

ATLANTA — The last time the government embarked on a major vaccine campaign against a new swine flu, thousands filed claims contending they suffered side effects from the shots. This time, the government has already taken steps to head that off.

Vaccine makers and federal officials will be immune from lawsuits that result from any new swine flu vaccine, under a document signed by Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, government health officials said Friday.

Since the 1980s, the government has protected vaccine makers against lawsuits over the use of childhood vaccines. Instead, a federal court handles claims and decides who will be paid from a special fund.

Thousands filed claims after 1976 campaign
Federal officials vaccinated 40 million Americans during a national campaign. A pandemic never materialized, but thousands who got the shots filed injury claims, saying they suffered a paralyzing condition called Guillain-Barre Syndrome or other side effects.

"The government paid out quite a bit of money," said Stephen Sugarman, a law professor who specializes in product liability at the University of California at Berkeley.
Legal immunity set for swine flu vaccine makers - Health - Cold and flu - Swine flu | NBC News


Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes
Review of fresh evidence finds jab given to 6 million people in Britain can occasionally cause sleep disorder

Ian Sample, science correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 19 September 2013 19.32 BST
Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes | Society | The Guardian

your own govt concedes the jabs cause harmful "disorders" that have no known cure.

I've also had a look at the author's other books, and each one of them is virtually without references or any form of proof. It's just reams of unsubstantiated, blunt, direct claims on people. No ideology. No seeming morality, empathy or any form of emotion that I belive a person writing about such horrific 'atrocities' would need to display for the 'victims'.
so, you looked at the books....like just NOW:)? and decided the author is a psychopath with no empathy or morality?

that's an odd thing to say.

interesting.
 
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Lizards or sharia? I'd take lizards, if I had a choice. Which I don't.
 

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XYZ: profile: Not Christian.

so.....what's a nice guy like you doing in a place like this?
seriously....get a real job.

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Conspiracy Theories

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Harvard Law School

Adrian Vermeule
Harvard Law School

January 15, 2008

Because those who hold conspiracy theories typically suffer from a crippled epistemology, in accordance with which it is rational to hold such theories, the best response consists in cognitive infiltration of extremist groups. Various policy dilemmas, such as the question whether it is better for government to rebut conspiracy theories or to ignore them, are explored in this light.
Conspiracy Theories by Cass R. Sunstein, Adrian Vermeule :: SSRN
 

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I've read the articles and seen the newspaper stories. And I've also read the articles that say that lizard men rule the world or that the NWO wants to kill off the population. But in my experience of living in a country where everyone I know has been vaccinated, I've never encountered anybody to have had any noteworthy side effects to vaccination.

The ingredients in vaccines are also harmless to anybody who isn't allergic to them. There is the egg, if someone is allergic, then obviously that's dangerous. They contain phenoxyethanol as well (a kind of alcohol) in small amounts. It's a preservative. Anybody with an alcohol sensitivity will react to it mildly.

They contain thimerasol in America (which contains mercury bonded to other elements) but not in the UK.

Some vaccines contain antibiotics, so if anyone has an antibiotic allergy then that might trigger something. Again, tiny amounts.

Any 'dead' vaccines will contain adjuvants. They are usually compounds of aluminium and create an immune response to the dead virus, so that the body will produce antibodies.

If you read any reputable scientific journal on narcolepsy you will see that at-risk humans are born with a genetic predisposition to it, and viruses (any viruses) are known to be able to trigger the disease. If these families' children had gotten a cold, they could have just as easily developed narcolepsy. It just so happened that the swine flu vaccine used (Pandemrix) contains a live virus.

There were 55 children in the UK who developed symptoms of Guillain-Barré syndrome at around 6 months after the vaccine had been released in the UK. (Guillan Barre is usually triggered by a viral infection) Of those fifty five suspected Guillain-Barré cases, only three children had actually gotten the H1N1 vaccination. Of those three, one of them had the injection 4 months previous to his symptoms arising, and another 6 months previous. The final child had the vaccine in two doses at 5 weeks and 10 days before onset. This is the only one of the fifty-five that a correlation between Guillan-Barré and the H1N1 vaccine can even be suggested about. And even suggesting it is a little bit ridiculous. Unless that kid is a walking cliché of a painfully delayed reaction, he didn't get his symptoms from the vaccine. But in rare, very rare cases it can be possible. Generally, guillan barre onsets within a week, and at most, 3 weeks. That's really the upper limit and then some.

And ironically, Guillan-Barre is more likely to be caused by a full blown case of swine-influenza than by the vaccination. A child is statistically 16 times more likely to develop Guillan-Barré during or shortly after a case of swine flu, than if the child were innoculated against the disease.

There were 855,378 children who got the H1N1 vaccine in the UK at the time of the hysteria. And out of that, we have four who developed narcolepsy triggered by a virus, which just happened to be the H1N1, but in reality, it could have been anything. And we have one child who *might* have developed Guillan-Barré because of the vaccination. But science and sense say otherwise.

It really isn't dangerous. And unless we screen every child for a predisposition to narcolepsy we can't do anything about it. We also can't prevent Guillan-Barre because there isn't a test for susceptibility.
 
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