2 Timothy 2 - at what point do we stop quarreling with posts?

[mystdancer50]

Yes. It removes the post from your view, but is still seen by others.

It was really random, truly. It is really hard to get folks to see the level of the bullying. I can take the rants and raves of folks, but this was just out and out cruelty. It wasn't "I disagree with you" it was, "I am not going to listen to a thing you say while I beat you over the head and have others join in".

There is a great disconnect, I think, between young adults and older adults. Though I was bullied in my youth, this experience showed me that the bullying teens and young adults experience is way more insidious than what I experienced. I just had out and out cruelty, physical violence and name calling. These kids and young adults have dealt with manipulation on a level I cannot even imagine.

It was only until I was a 'victim' myself that I realized the true danger in the bullying as it occurs today. I used to think, "It's the same thing I went through. Just get through school and it'll pass." But that's not true with bullying as it is today. This was an eye opener for me. I mean, yes, it will pass. But it is so dark and crushing that you can't just shrug it off like I could shrug off most of the bullying I experienced. Event today, there are parts of it I still remember and it still hurts a little.

I truly would like to help youth realize the darkness of the bullying and give them the weapons to combat it, ultimately, rather than being browbeaten under it, as I was. Essentially, ignoring these folks was hiding under a blanket and hoping that the monsters don't find me. Could have been better handled, I guess, but I had never encountered such a dark level of bullying in my life, and I had been bullied horribly by my stepfather and my peers all the way through junior high.

 

[Angela53510]

So what is the OP looking for? We all sit around holding hands and singing Kumbaya?

I come here because it is the only Christian forum I have been in that actually discusses the Bible, theology and Biblical history. I have learned much from the threads here. I've been studying the Bible for 33 years, including 7 years in Seminary, but a lot of disputes never came up there. I am grateful for the different viewpoints, because even wrong theology sharpens my knowledge of the Bible and what I believe.

Sometimes threads confirm with evidence what I only had a "feeling" about based on the way it does not fit with the Bible. Other times, threads do get out of hand, but it is the defensiveness of people that is the problem, not the actual confronting heresies and wrong doctrine that is the problem.

"but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect," 1 Peter 3:15.

I have been attacked in some threads, but it made me go and really look deeper at what I believed. Today, someone accused me of being angry, when it couldn't have been further from the truth. I decided it was not worth fighting over, and someone else defended me. God is good!

I am happy to be a member of this forum, and learn from everyone here, and be able to share some of my Bible knowledge and experiences as a Christian. I think paranoia and defensiveness is the biggest barrier to achieving rational discussions in any on-line forum. Try not to read into what someone is saying, esp. emotions, but instead, look at the Bible verses posted.

If there aren't any Scripture verses, then perhaps it is just not a good thread to be in?? At least in the Bible Forum!!

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I am quite fond of the 'ignore' button. I was recently bullied on here by a handful of members and so I just used the ignore button. That was the most I've had to use it ever. But, now I can go into threads and, if I choose to read their posts, I can, but I don't have to because they're hidden.

Where's the ignore button?

 

[JoyofLord]

I couldn't be bothered arguing it gets us no where, it takes a lot of self control though to not answer back when people attack you and bully you because of something you think or want to express. What I don't get is this is a discussion forum and if we can't get along together and respect each other's views and discuss our differences in a mature way how are we suppose to minister to the unsaved it makes me wonder. But I do realise God is growing my fruit of self control on this site, so many times I have wanted to say things but I do not

 

[overcomer2]

I know this is a really good time for us to discuss these issues. The Lord tells me not to cast my pearl to swine. The pearl being Christ. If you turn and render me then I choose to not fellowship with those that are not Christ like. I personally have no problem with disagreeing but rendering I will do as my Lord commands.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

 

[jimmydiggs]

So what is the OP looking for? We all sit around holding hands and singing Kumbaya?

I'm not holding hands, and I'm not singing Kumbaya.

 

[mystdancer50]

Where's the ignore button?

You view their page/profile by clicking on their name and then, under their profile picture, are some options, one of which says something like 'add this user to your ignore list'. Once you click that, it will ask you to confirm. Once you confirm, you're done.

 

[Jullianna]

Thank you for this thread. Seems to me that anyone who is smart enough to be standing for truth in the Name of the Lord should be able to state the truth in a way that pierces darkness, not people. We are supposed to speak the truth boldly, not spitefully. Motives checks are very important.

And as long as we are taking stands on things, I really don't like that Kumbaya song.

 

[Drett]

I think quarrels will reduce substantially if people have to provide proof for what they say rather than shooting from the hip which I mostly seen here.

 

[Cobus]

All differences stop only AT ONE POINT... As useual the Bible has the answe/

Four places.... First Scripture that says we will be perfectly one, is John 17, When Jesus is REALLY in us all then He will NEVER quarel with Himself. Here on CC looks like every person has his own Jesus in him and they fight like hell.
How can any group be not perfectly one when they all has the ONE HOLY SPIRIT IN THEM.... Just about EVERY person here claims to have the Holy Spirit in them, but they all have DIFFFERENT SPIRITS IN THEM.... Like ordinary sinners has...

Look at these 5000 men and their families... this will happen...

Acts 4...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: .... We do not have one heart, or one soul on CC. These were 5000 men getting the Holy Ghost into them all at the same moment.... And they had One Truth, One Word of God and One Accord. This will NEVER happen on CC, until God also gives us all ONE SPIRIT... HIS... There might be two or three or ten people on this whole site that has the Spirit, but how would the others know they have the Spirit? That HOLY SPIRIT church is HIDDEN from sinners...


Eph 4... here is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith,

Edifying the Body of Christ// Edify is REALLY one... Unity of the Faith.... SAME FAITH not like CC where each has his own. One Spirit God says, One Father God says, and ONE SPIRIT IN US ALL Father says... We do not have the Holy Spirit in us, if we sis we would have been ONE BODY... We are NOT one Body.

How Is a person EVER going to come in the unity of Faith if he does not believe in the church is as perfect AS GOD IS PERFECT? If anything is perfect and we add imperfection to it, NTHING THERE IS PERFECT ANY LONGER.... God KEEPS HIS CHURCH PERFECT.... Only a PERFECT church can live as God wants HIS CHURCH TO LIVE..... FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT...
Eph 5... This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Sadly the Church of Christ is for too many of us still a MUSTERY...... If we were all in that church, we will all see there is NO bickering in that church not even one difference of opinion.... Get this. NOT ONE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION..... A PERFECT HOLY CHURCH WHERE CHRIST IS THE HEAD, and the REST OF THE BODY IS PERFECTLY ONE.....

 

[Isdaniel]

All differences stop only AT ONE POINT... As useual the Bible has the answe/

Four places.... First Scripture that says we will be perfectly one, is John 17, When Jesus is REALLY in us all then He will NEVER quarel with Himself. Here on CC looks like every person has his own Jesus in him and they fight like hell.
How can any group be not perfectly one when they all has the ONE HOLY SPIRIT IN THEM.... Just about EVERY person here claims to have the Holy Spirit in them, but they all have DIFFFERENT SPIRITS IN THEM.... Like ordinary sinners has...

Look at these 5000 men and their families... this will happen...

Acts 4...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: .... We do not have one heart, or one soul on CC. These were 5000 men getting the Holy Ghost into them all at the same moment.... And they had One Truth, One Word of God and One Accord. This will NEVER happen on CC, until God also gives us all ONE SPIRIT... HIS... There might be two or three or ten people on this whole site that has the Spirit, but how would the others know they have the Spirit? That HOLY SPIRIT church is HIDDEN from sinners...


Eph 4... here is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith,

Edifying the Body of Christ// Edify is REALLY one... Unity of the Faith.... SAME FAITH not like CC where each has his own. One Spirit God says, One Father God says, and ONE SPIRIT IN US ALL Father says... We do not have the Holy Spirit in us, if we sis we would have been ONE BODY... We are NOT one Body.

How Is a person EVER going to come in the unity of Faith if he does not believe in the church is as perfect AS GOD IS PERFECT? If anything is perfect and we add imperfection to it, NTHING THERE IS PERFECT ANY LONGER.... God KEEPS HIS CHURCH PERFECT.... Only a PERFECT church can live as God wants HIS CHURCH TO LIVE..... FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT...
Eph 5... This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Sadly the Church of Christ is for too many of us still a MUSTERY...... If we were all in that church, we will all see there is NO bickering in that church not even one difference of opinion.... Get this. NOT ONE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION..... A PERFECT HOLY CHURCH WHERE CHRIST IS THE HEAD, and the REST OF THE BODY IS PERFECTLY ONE.....

The perfect church and true church is in the future while in the church exist now let the wheat and the tares grow together

 

[Isdaniel]

All differences stop only AT ONE POINT... As useual the Bible has the answe/

Four places.... First Scripture that says we will be perfectly one, is John 17, When Jesus is REALLY in us all then He will NEVER quarel with Himself. Here on CC looks like every person has his own Jesus in him and they fight like hell.
How can any group be not perfectly one when they all has the ONE HOLY SPIRIT IN THEM.... Just about EVERY person here claims to have the Holy Spirit in them, but they all have DIFFFERENT SPIRITS IN THEM.... Like ordinary sinners has...

Look at these 5000 men and their families... this will happen...

Acts 4...they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: .... We do not have one heart, or one soul on CC. These were 5000 men getting the Holy Ghost into them all at the same moment.... And they had One Truth, One Word of God and One Accord. This will NEVER happen on CC, until God also gives us all ONE SPIRIT... HIS... There might be two or three or ten people on this whole site that has the Spirit, but how would the others know they have the Spirit? That HOLY SPIRIT church is HIDDEN from sinners...


Eph 4... here is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith,

Edifying the Body of Christ// Edify is REALLY one... Unity of the Faith.... SAME FAITH not like CC where each has his own. One Spirit God says, One Father God says, and ONE SPIRIT IN US ALL Father says... We do not have the Holy Spirit in us, if we sis we would have been ONE BODY... We are NOT one Body.

How Is a person EVER going to come in the unity of Faith if he does not believe in the church is as perfect AS GOD IS PERFECT? If anything is perfect and we add imperfection to it, NTHING THERE IS PERFECT ANY LONGER.... God KEEPS HIS CHURCH PERFECT.... Only a PERFECT church can live as God wants HIS CHURCH TO LIVE..... FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT...
Eph 5... This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Sadly the Church of Christ is for too many of us still a MUSTERY...... If we were all in that church, we will all see there is NO bickering in that church not even one difference of opinion.... Get this. NOT ONE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION..... A PERFECT HOLY CHURCH WHERE CHRIST IS THE HEAD, and the REST OF THE BODY IS PERFECTLY ONE.....

What do you mean the Holy Spirit church is hid from sinners ? did not Jesus say let your lights shine pleas explain thanks

 

[Cobus]

Again only Scripture will explain, not me....

Why does some people know not when they meet a holy Angel of God? Would you know when you have an Angel in your presence?
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

And the sinners is in the dark they HATE THE LIGHT.... The darkness (sinners) and the light (the church) have NO COMMUNION with eachother....
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

And MANY more scriptures showing the DEFENATE SEPERATION OF THE TWO.... I will gladly expand if you still do not understand.

 

[Cobus]

The Church is the people that is IN GOD.... in the light....
Look here where their LIVES ARE HIDDEN.....
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

Who is it HIDDEN FROM ISADANIEL? ! Timothy says the holy and clear conscience men KNOWS THE MYSTERY OF THE FAITH...

Isdaniel what is the mystery of the Faith? Please answer this question.... What is the mystery of the faith?

 

[Reformedjason]

When someone is posting wrong, or, sometimes even antichristian, preachings, then it our duty to call them out on it. If that seems unkind to you, then I'm sorry.
Teaching the Pre-Trib Rapture doctrine is wrong.
Teaching the OSAS (Once Saved, Always Saved) doctrine is wrong.
Praying in public, since it is against the words of Jesus Christ, is antichristian.
Owning guns, since Jesus Christ never owned or used a weapon, is antichristian.

Pre trib is wrong? Says some, others say it is right.
OSAS is biblical fact. You can't loose something that is not deserved.
Owning a gun is non Christian ? That is laughable.

 

[chatter23]

The Church is the people that is IN GOD.... in the light....
Look here where their LIVES ARE HIDDEN.....
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

Who is it HIDDEN FROM ISADANIEL? ! Timothy says the holy and clear conscience men KNOWS THE MYSTERY OF THE FAITH...

Isdaniel what is the mystery of the Faith? Please answer this question.... What is the mystery of the faith?

The mystery of faith to suffer and above all patience.

 

[thecreationtutor]

So what is the OP looking for? We all sit around holding hands and singing Kumbaya?

no - but at what point do the hearers get ruined? or at what point does this not further us unto Godliness, and Holiness which reading the bible as an end in itself does not produce. Sure our knowledge increases, but unless we are practicing what it preaches we go nowhere, in fact we will plateau and not grow anymore, even sliding backward.

 

[chatter23]

I think quarrels will reduce substantially if people have to provide proof for what they say rather than shooting from the hip which I mostly seen here.

And if people have provided proof for what they say it would not be understood anyway. LOL

 

[Cobus]

The mystery of faith to suffer and above all patience.

NOPE! Sorry Chatter I would have LOVED if you show the Scripture that explains this mystery. Jesus talks about it. Paul does as well. And even if we post it it will still be a mystery to some.... Do you have another idea? It has something to do about Christ in a person and the person in Christ... what can the WORLD not receive, that will be a mystery to them forever?

 

[Isdaniel]

Did Jesus ever quarrel the scriptures hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm