Not Allowing Kids to Get Gifts at Christmas - - It's Wrong

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During a stay in Israel, I went sight seeing. One of the places was a romanesque synagogue in ruins. The floor was almost intact. It was a mosaic of the sun and the various constellations of the zodiac. Children of Israel had incorporated this into their religion.

In all of Christianity all of those vestiges are excluded from worship, including any original hommage paid to false gods by naming various increments of time for them.

Who is more correct here? The Jews having incorporated, or those of Messiah having excluded. Now, carry this response further to the theme of this OP:
 
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john832 said:
? How about all the Feasts...

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The Holydays are the shadow of God's 7000 year plan.
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Uh oh, counter attack :rolleyes:
 
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Your quote from the Holy Scriptures should settle things here for everyone...............thanks.


john832 said:
? How about all the Feasts...

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The Holydays are the shadow of God's 7000 year plan.
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john832 said:
? How about all the Feasts...

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The Holydays are the shadow of God's 7000 year plan.
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i dont understand are you saying we are to celebrate these feast
 
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Isdaniel said:
yep you celebrate christmas and it is pagan just because they use Jesus name that does not make it pagan
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That's all you have left to say? Well then, goats got milk too, but who likes goat milk?? Yuck! You need to have some sensitive taste buds for that.
 
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Before you react too quickly, please take the time to read this comparison between the Biblical teachings about Jesus Christ and the mythical teachings of Santa Claus. Many, many Christian pastors have lamented the fact that Santa Claus has replaced Jesus Christ in the hearts and minds of too many children and adults in America today. When you read this comparison, you will understand that this replacement in the hearts and minds of Americans is not by accident. You will be able to see Satan, the Master Marionette, pulling the strings above the world, leading adults and children alike away from Jesus Christ and toward Santa Claus, who is the epitome' of the love of the world and everything that is in it.

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[TH="align: center"]JESUS CHRIST: OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE[/TH]
[TH="align: center"]SANTA CLAUS: THE COUNTERFEIT ACCORDING TO MYTH OF MEN[/TH]
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[TD]1. Has white hair like wool (Rev 1:14)[/TD]
[TD]1. Has white hair like wool[/TD]
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[TD]2. Has a beard (Isaiah 50:6)[/TD]
[TD]2. Has a beard[/TD]
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[TD]3. Comes in red apparel Isaiah (63:1-2)[/TD]
[TD]3. Comes in red apparel[/TD]
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[TD]4. Hour of His coming is a mystery (Luke 12:40; Mark 13:33) [/TD]
[TD]4. Hour of his coming is a mystery[/TD]
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[TD]5. Comes from the North where He lives (Ezekiel 1:4; Psalm 48:2)[/TD]
[TD]5. Comes from the North where he lives: North Pole[/TD]
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[TD]6. Is a carpenter (Mark 6:3)[/TD]
[TD]6. Is a toy carpenter[/TD]
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[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night (Matthew 24:43-44) [/TD]
[TD]7. Comes as a thief in the night. Even gains entrance to homes as a thief.[/TD]
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[TD]8. Omnipotent -- all powerful (Rev 19:6)[/TD]
[TD]8. Omnipotent -- can deliver all the toys of the world in one night[/TD]
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[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows all (Hebrews 4:13; 1 John 3:20)[/TD]
[TD]9. Omniscient -- knows if you have been good or bad, for the entire year[/TD]
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[TD]10. Omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10; Ephesians 4:6; John 3:13)[/TD]
[TD]10. Omnipresent -- sees when you wake or sleep. Has to be everywhere at once to be able to deliver all the toys in one short night.[/TD]
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[TD]11. Ageless, eternal (Rev 1:8; 21:6)[/TD]
[TD]11. Lives forever[/TD]
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[TD]12. Lives in men (1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16-17)[/TD]
[TD]12. Lives in the hearts of children[/TD]
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[TD]13. Giver of Gifts (Ephesians 4:8)[/TD]
[TD]13. Giver of Gifts[/TD]
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[TD]14. Absolute Truth (John 14:6)[/TD]
[TD]14. Absolute Fable - (1 Tim 1:4; 4:7; 2 Tim 4:4) [/TD]
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[TD]15. Sits on a throne (Rev 5:1; Heb 1:8)[/TD]
[TD]15. Sits on a throne[/TD]
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[TD]16. We are told to boldly go to the throne of Grace for our needs (Heb 4:16)[/TD]
[TD]16. Children are bidden to approach his throne to ask for anything they want[/TD]
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[TD]17. Commands children to obey parents[/TD]
[TD]17. Tells children to obey parents[/TD]
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[TD]18. Wants little children to come to Him (Mark 10:14)[/TD]
[TD]18. Bids children to come unto him[/TD]
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[TD]19. Judges (Rom 14:10; Rev 20:2)[/TD]
[TD]19. Judges whether you were good or bad[/TD]
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[TD]20. Everlasting Father (Isa 9:6; Heb 12:2)[/TD]
[TD]20. Father Christmas[/TD]
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[TD]21. Christ Child (Matt 1:23; Luke 2:11-12)[/TD]
[TD]21. Kris Kringle (means christ child)[/TD]
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[TD]22. Worthy of Prayers and Worship (Rev 5:14 Hebrews 1:6)[/TD]
[TD]22. Prayers and worship to "St. Nick" by children[/TD]
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[TD]23. Lord of Hosts (Mal 3:5; Isa 8:13; Psalms 24:10)[/TD]
[TD]23. Lord over a host of elves - (In Druidic religion, elves are demons or tree spirits[/TD]
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[TD]24. God says, "Ho, ho ... (Zechariah 2:6)[/TD]
[TD]24. Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho ..."[/TD]
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[TD]25. Prince of Peace, the Image of God (Isa 9:6; Hebrews 1:3) [/TD]
[TD]25. Symbol of World Peace, the image of the Christmas Season[/TD]
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Note: This comparison taken from "The GOOD NEWSletter", by Former Catholics For Christ, Oct/Nov/Dec, 1997. Clearly, you can see that someone deliberately created a Secular counterfeit to Jesus Christ, matching the many attributes of Jesus Christ with Santa Claus! There are too many direct matches for this creation of Santa Claus to have been an accident. We are told in Job 1:6-7 that Satan walks up and down on the Earth, as if it were a small garden plot completely under his domination. Satan can be thought of as a Master Marionette, pulling the strings on Earth. Certainly, in these Last Days, Satan would have wanted someone else to draw the attention, admiration, and love of the children away from Jesus Christ. But, not only that, Satan would have wanted to infect children early with that most devastating of spiritual diseases, the love of material things, and the love of oneself that goes with trying to get as many presents as possible! The creation and promotion of Santa Claus certainly fulfills all these goals. Santa equals Satan.

Now, please allow me to introduce to you another translocation of the word, Satan.

Santa. As in Santa Claus.
 
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Pardon the interruption, but I used to drink goat's milk as a child. It is all a matter of custom. Cheese from sheep's milk is also very good, but too expensive.... Please do not bad mouth goat's milk..it has nurtured many a generation.
 
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Dude, isdaniel, you don't even know where Santa came from. Have you ever heard of Saint Nick?
 
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JaumeJ said:
Pardon the interruption, but I used to drink goat's milk as a child. It is all a matter of custom. Cheese from sheep's milk is also very good, but too expensive.... Please do not bad mouth goat's milk..it has nurtured many a generation.
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Sorry for disrespect brother, and to those I disrespected unjustly.
 
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Bryancampbell said:
Dude, isdaniel, you don't even know where Santa came from. Have you ever heard of Saint Nick?
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No i have not heard about a saint nick but i heard about a nick who is a lie and cannot get sainthood for that is reserved for the true children of God
 
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Isdaniel said:
No i have not heard about a saint nick but i heard about a nick who is a lie and cannot get sainthood for that is reserved for the true children of God
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I'm not Catholic, everyone is a saint who is Christian.
 
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Isdaniel said:
History channel has alot about Christmas and your so called saint nick
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My so called saint nick? I used that term because it's wildly used. History channel???? Have you seen the their version of the bible?
 
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Isdaniel said:
everyone is a saint who is truly a christian .
Some call themselves Christians but are not because they celebrate christmas
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This right here is enough. I perceive you as a troll, not just any ordinary troll, but a monotonous troll who condemns people.
 
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Bryancampbell said:
My so called saint nick? I used that term because it's wildly used. History channel???? Have you seen the their version of the bible?
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i am sure that you read history book hmmm i wonder where easter came from and what does bunnies have to do with Jesus just a thought
 
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Bryancampbell said:
This right here is enough. I perceive you as a troll, not just any ordinary troll, but a monotonous troll who condemns people.
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Jesus said woe unto the pharasees

the truth is the truth

Matthew 7
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.




 
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Bryancampbell said:
This right here is enough. I perceive you as a troll, not just any ordinary troll, but a monotonous troll who condemns people.
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i am not sorry if the truth hurts Christmas is not of God and well if you want to celebrate it go ahead but know for sure God does not accept pagan worship
 
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