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Idk where sale to post this, but I'm wondering how other's of like mind think about being in an underground rebel faction? One with a True Christian foundation that is,.. I am and always have been of a militaristic mindset, and when it comes to faith we are called as soldiers of Christ. I feel it is time to put this call into the open. Peaceful demonstration of the Faith and testimony to the Truth is monumental in this Eschatalogical period. So I for one am proud to display myself as a soldier of Christ. Diabolical forces are at work and time is short, make the best example of your call!
 
But the greatest...

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1 Corinthians 13:13

But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.
 
Idk where sale to post this, but I'm wondering how other's of like mind think about being in an underground rebel faction? One with a True Christian foundation that is,.. I am and always have been of a militaristic mindset, and when it comes to faith we are called as soldiers of Christ. I feel it is time to put this call into the open. Peaceful demonstration of the Faith and testimony to the Truth is monumental in this Eschatalogical period. So I for one am proud to display myself as a soldier of Christ. Diabolical forces are at work and time is short, make the best example of your call!

If all you want to do is "peaceful demonstration" then just join a church.
You can demonstrate your faith every Sunday at church, or get involved with missions.
There's no reason to form an "underground group".

Jesus didn't form any underground groups.

If you want to start a militant group, then you need to go stir up trouble on some other forum.
 
If all you want to do is "peaceful demonstration" then just join a church.
You can demonstrate your faith every Sunday at church, or get involved with missions.
There's no reason to form an "underground group".

Jesus didn't form any underground groups.

If you want to start a militant group, then you need to go stir up trouble on some other forum.

What little understanding you have,.. I'm talking about a faith based group that is strong enough to endure martyrdom for the Truth. That is why it must have militaristic characters, I do not by any means mean to stir up trouble at all. For it stirs itself!
I know for a fact that the entirety of mainstream "Christianity" is not strong enough to undergo severe persecution, they'd drop their faith in an instant if faced with the choice to live if they do or die if they don't. I'm ready do encounter Satan and his Antichrist and endure the Great Tribulation, are you?
 
What little understanding you have,.. I'm talking about a faith based group that is strong enough to endure martyrdom for the Truth. That is why it must have militaristic characters, I do not by any means mean to stir up trouble at all. For it stirs itself!
I know for a fact that the entirety of mainstream "Christianity" is not strong enough to undergo severe persecution, they'd drop their faith in an instant if faced with the choice to live if they do or die if they don't. I'm ready do encounter Satan and his Antichrist and endure the Great Tribulation, are you?

Last year I read a book that goes along this very concept. By the second chapter I realized that it was probably THE MOST lame book and most stupid idea I've heard in awhile. Muslim terrorist groups are also dedicated to their cause and beliefs. Oh, that's right. They have a little habit of killing innocent people for their "god".

Is this what you are proposing? An armed group? It sounds like you may have read the "Left Behind" series where they formed a group like this. The authors should have "Left Behind" that idea after the first book. My advice is that if you want to start a group like that you do not get on an open source like FB or CC. You could end up with a late night visit from the NSA. Think about it.
 
What little understanding you have,.. I'm talking about a faith based group that is strong enough to endure martyrdom for the Truth. That is why it must have militaristic characters, I do not by any means mean to stir up trouble at all. For it stirs itself!
I know for a fact that the entirety of mainstream "Christianity" is not strong enough to undergo severe persecution, they'd drop their faith in an instant if faced with the choice to live if they do or die if they don't. I'm ready do encounter Satan and his Antichrist and endure the Great Tribulation, are you?

Easy now Rambo, the Bible says the Joy of the Lord is your strength, not some secret squirrel club of God fearing ninja's and all their "toys".

The Biblical answers aside, lets stay practical. This is just being naive at its finest. There is no way you are going to be able to hide, resist, survive and shoot it out with da beastie and his boyz!

The best way to prepare is meditate and eat the Word and be ready to lay yourself down for the testimony of Jesus!

Oh and one last thing Rambo, Please don't ever suggest anything related to Christian persecution and how someone is not strong enough to survive it without remembering your audience. This is a world wide chat board and there may be several sons and daughters of God here, that have been strong enough to survive persecutions today, that you could not wrap your naive and fantasy filled mind around and could have quite literally offended.

Class dismissed
 
I by no means indent to form an armed group,.. Though it might be helpful in surviving the Great Tribulation if my destiny is to endure though it and remain alive at the time of the Rapture. Faith in the Truth is the only thing that will be able to keep me alive at that time, literally only. But how are we to display this Faith? Peacefully. Unlike those who hold to the Islamic faith. As I mentioned before, the kind of group I have is militaristic in mindset. It does not mean we would hold a "shoot out", or any provocative act of violence toward anyone. A True Soldier of Christ fights his battles spiritually not physically. So please stop with your preconceived notions and pay attention to what I'm saying,..
 
I by no means indent to form an armed group,.. Though it might be helpful in surviving the Great Tribulation if my destiny is to endure though it and remain alive at the time of the Rapture. Faith in the Truth is the only thing that will be able to keep me alive at that time, literally only. But how are we to display this Faith? Peacefully. Unlike those who hold to the Islamic faith. As I mentioned before, the kind of group I have is militaristic in mindset. It does not mean we would hold a "shoot out", or any provocative act of violence toward anyone. A True Soldier of Christ fights his battles spiritually not physically. So please stop with your preconceived notions and pay attention to what I'm saying,..

NO, you pelase stop and think about the last part of my reply to you. You missed the only reason I responded to you.
 
NO, you pelase stop and think about the last part of my reply to you. You missed the only reason I responded to you.

Oh I thought about it. And the kind of persecution that we will encounter in the Great Tribulation is unprecedented in all of History. So you think about that!
 
Oh I thought about it. And the kind of persecution that we will encounter in the Great Tribulation is unprecedented in all of History. So you think about that!

What spiritual pride you have young skywalker...
 
A martyr was originally a witness, in that a martyr was willing to bear witness of belief by dying for it, not any sort of militaristic rank.

It was only a long while after, when Christian states started to get organized and needed a concept to cajole people into dying in battle, that soldiers were called martyrs. You might as well swear fealty to a liege lord and farm a field if this is your concept of martyrdom, because that's where the idea comes from.
 
Either you people are blind or just ignorant, because you completely misunderstand me. I know what a martyr is, I know what I have in mind and you all are just putting words in my mouth. The only point I'm trying to get through is that we need to be prepared to encounter the worst persecution that the Church will ever experience,.. That's all! And I think it's helpful to have a group of like minded people who are spiritually and physically prepared for such a time.
 
Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God...

1) Matthew: Suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia, killed by a sword wound.

2) Mark: Died in Alexandria, Egypt, after being dragged by horses through the streets until he was dead.

3) Luke: Was hanged in Greece as a result of his tremendous preaching to the lost.

4) John: Faced martyrdom when he was boiled in huge basin of boiling oil during a wave of persecution in Rome. However, he was miraculously delivered from death. John was then sentenced to the mines on the prison island of Patmos.

He wrote his prophetic Book of Revelation on Patmos. The apostle John was later freed and returned to serve as Bishop of Edessa in modern Turkey. He died as an old man, the only apostle to die peacefully.

5) Peter: He was crucified upside down on an x-shaped cross. According to church tradition it was because he told his tormentors that he felt unworthy to die in the same way that Jesus Christ had died.

6) James the Just: The leader of the church in Jerusalem, was thrown over a hundred feet down from the southeast pinnacle of the Temple when he refused to deny his faith in Christ. When they discovered that he survived the fall, his enemies beat James to death with a fuller's club.

This was the same pinnacle where Satan had taken Jesus during the Temptation.

7) James the Great: Son of Zebedee, was a fisherman by trade when Jesus called him to a lifetime of ministry. As a strong leader of the church, James was ultimately beheaded at Jerusalem.

The Roman officer who guarded James watched amazed as James defended his faith at his trial. Later, the officer walked beside James to the place of execution. Overcome by conviction, he declared his new faith to the judge and knelt beside James to accept beheading as a Christian

8) Bartholomew: Also known as Nathaniel. Was a missionary to Asia. He witnessed for our Lord in present day Turkey. Bartholomew was martyred for his preaching in Armenia where he was flayed to death by a whip.

9) Andrew: Was crucified on an x-shaped cross in Patras, Greece.

After being whipped severely by seven soldiers they tied his body to the cross with cords to prolong his agony. His followers reported that, when he was led toward the cross, Andrew saluted it in these words: 'I have long desired and expected this happy hour. The cross has been consecrated by the body of Christ hanging on it.' He continued to preach to his tormentors for two days until he expired.

10) Thomas: Was stabbed with a spear in India during one of his missionary trips to establish the church in the sub-continent

11) Jude: Was killed with arrows when he refused to deny his faith in Christ.

12) Matthias: The apostle chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned and then beheaded.

13) Paul: Was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D. 67. Paul endured a lengthy imprisonment, which allowed him to write his many epistles to the churches he had formed throughout the Roman Empire. These letters, which taught many of the foundational doctrines of Christianity, form a large portion of the New Testament.

Perhaps this is a reminder to us that our sufferings here are indeed minor compared to the intense persecution and cold cruelty faced by the apostles, disciples during their times for the sake of the Faith.

"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: But he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22