Would God Expect Women To Work Like A Male ?

[J-Kay-2]

Okay, a discussion worth having for men and women.
What are your thoughts about women doing a mans
job. Do you think God made Male the stronger sex
for hard labor? And woman for being wife and mother?
Take into account the woman does NOT stay home and
watch TV all day.

What have you done in this area of life?

 

[djness]

I'm severely handicap and cannot do what men should do so I feel like a woman.
Except I'm not pretty.
So...what's the deal God?

 

[J-Kay-2]

It appears I have to answer my own question. No, I do not think
God made woman to do extremely heavy work as a man. I believe
He created man to take care of the woman He created to be mate
to the male. I am not saying a woman's place is in the home as so
many have said over the years. I am talking about heavy duty jobs.
A female is the weaker sex. Sorry ladies, but we are. That is the
way God intended it. Man is or at least has always been the head of
the home. Now this is not putting anyone down, it is just the way it
always has been, okay ? There are situations that can't be helped.
I am speaking of the woman who does heavy lifting or any type of
stress put on the female body. I will tell young women now, if you
are doing a mans job, you will pay for it later in years. I am no
wimp. I am 5' and have always done my own painting, and when I
was raised on the farm, I worked with my brothers. I have had
through the years, tried to help my husband when he had no one
around. I thought I can lift this heavy piece of concrete, etc...
Well, I discovered later, it is not easy on a woman. I am also
aware of women today who have to work and take any type of job
available.

As for God creating us to work like a man, just my opinion only,
I don't think He expects us to ignore our home and family. I am
reminded of the Proverbs 31 woman who rises early to tend to her
household, business, etc. So yes, we are to work... it is a question
what type was a woman created to do.
I also have an opinion about women working in factories ( do we have
them anymore? ) men and women working together, talking vulgar, etc.
I know it goes on. I have been told decent men are turned off by this
talk out of women. Okay, I am getting off topic.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

A woman that pops out 5 kids and keeps an eye on them 24/7, doing laundry, keeping things clean.....that's harder than manual labor if you ask me.

 

[Toska]

I have to agree that we women were not made to do the same work as men. I consider myself a hard-working and capable woman but, when I assist my husband with any heavy-duty work I find myself only able to do about half as much as he can. Most men are physically stronger and able to do more manual labor than we are. I also agree with donkeyfish that raising children and taking care of the home can be harder than manual labor. I know what my abilities are and I am not ashamed to admit that there are things I cannot do physically, things I depend on my husband to do. But, there are also things that I do for him that he depends on me to do........it all evens out in the end.

 

[doll]

I feel conflicted about this subject as it has always puzzled me.
In todays day and age, both parents almost always have to work to make ends meet. On the rare occasion the husband makes enough money to supply his family with their needs and wants ,perhaps the wife would love to stay home and rear the kids and take care of cooking and cleaning.
Some women are not happy with that though, some want to be career women and I don't see anything wrong with it. Personally I want to be both, I want to be June Cleaver and then go to work and be Carrie Bradshaw.
Haha since I had my son Seth last year I haven't done any work outside of the home, you see I am a freelance illustrator. But a baby doesn't understand why mommy is on the computer all the time, he thinks hes ignored. Not cool, so I quit that!
Recently I started taking a tax assessor course for H&R block and I will hear back Dec 2nd if I got my certification and the job.

I loved being out of the house, its cured my depression and loneliness to be around these other women, and to learn and accomplish. I miss my son like crazy when I am away but it's a nice break too. It's going to be seasonal work and I can deal with that.

Its a good paying job, that's why its worth it. I don't think I could ever be a mother who works just to pay someone else to raise my child!! No way..

I once heard a quote that said
[h=1]“Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children.”[/h]I wouldn't take that literally or mean to offend or blaspheme ,I take it as mother is the most important person in a child's life to them, our babies need us more than anyone else.

so I may go back to work, but only if it really pays well enough to benefit my family in a big way, otherwise id gladly be poor as we are now, yet able to be home and raise my child to be the best he can be ,without fear or doubt that someone else is teaching him life's first values the wrong way or not at all.

Like kindness, gentleness, compassion,respect, and above all Love.

Okay, a discussion worth having for men and women.
What are your thoughts about women doing a mans
job. Do you think God made Male the stronger sex
for hard labor? And woman for being wife and mother?
Take into account the woman does NOT stay home and
watch TV all day.

What have you done in this area of life?

 

[Misty77]

The command to subdue and have dominion over creation was for mankind the species, not man the gender. The idea of a woman who doesn't have to use her body to work the land or use her hands to create food and clothing from raw materials (along with other types of work) is a relatively new concept that has only been made available due to modern technology.

One of the hardest parts of Biblical interpretation is reducing the amount that your own culture taints your understanding of the text. The OP question likely comes from the mistaken notion that Biblical manhood or womanhood is limited to the model from America in the 1950s. The valorous woman of Proverbs 31 works amazingly hard at a variety of entrepreneurial endeavors. We also see examples of other working women throughout the Bible.

 

[doll]

I agree with you! And besides,I do not want to do back breaking labor anyway! haha who does really? Thanks for the reference to proverbs 31,it was a great read! As I am a new Christian and I find that reading the scriptures as they aply to my life a easier way to remember them, than simply reading the bible through and through.

Anyway as for your last question about do women and men work factories , yes they do.
My aunt worked at Cooper Tire plant along side the men. It was a very hard physical job making tires. She eventually started having health problms, aside from the constant harassment she faced by the men.
She ended up having to quit...now she works at an Army Depot, on a high risk factory line producing explosives..that's all I can say.

She works very hard,she's tough. But I do wish she could do something else. i don't think its womens work.

 

[rainin]

I agree that we should all work and work diligently. From my own experience, I do not agree that a woman should do a man's work....heavy lifting and such. I too was raised on a farm and worked along side my father when I was young. He never allowed me to do the man's portion of that work. It wasn't until I was married that I had to work like a borrowed mule until my body was worn out and useless. Not only do I suffer physically every day of my life, it has caused me to have feelings of bitterness and resentment towards my now exhusband for using me in that manner. Those feelings are something I take to the Lord every day. I wanted to be a good wife. I wanted to please my husband. In the end, all I got was a broken back and a certificate of divorce when I could no longer work. My physical pain is easier to manage than the bitterness in my heart. I struggle daily with both evils. Had I known then what I know now, I could have avoided both.

 

[isaria]

It depends on the individuals.
We are different.
As males and females but also who we are in who and all we are.

Some people work intellectually and spiritually (this is how i work)and others work with there bodies.

Working with body should for health and safety reasons be performed in reasonable manner.
There are rules to follow regarding this.

Im sorry rainin your husband used you to work beyond what your body should.
One should have prenuptual agreements on all such things b4 one marries really.


It can be exhausting working hard even when one is not working with body one can be giving so much it is more draining than all the other labours.


One is a team and a union and taking care of children should also be something one does together in communion be one married still.


There is a thing out where "parents" rape babies and apparently there is so much energy, light and glory they feel they get from penetrating bay in various ways.
Starts in cot and continues.
The "parent" actually gets the energy from baby some how it is beleived also to cure sickness some cultures believe.
Ofte it is educated people who never seem get sentenced as they have so much power they missuse.


There is many ways be parent.
One can be a emotional and spiritual parent that works more than the "physical" one does.


Some one may work more spiritual and intellectual labour yet it does not look like they are working and the one works with body looks that work more.


I think it depends on who one is deeply truly madly and was born.

I cant explain what I mean on writing here but it is a big difference .


Nice if one can appreciate and support each other in work rolls and not be jealous or do something about it.


If a partner come home from hard day work and tired may be give foot massage and have dinner made to show support.

A husband and wife should talk about these things before they marry.

What is our money.
What is yours.
what is mine.
What do we want.
Do we have your money, my money and then a joint account on top of that...

How do you work and how do i work.
Have we got a problem with that?

Do we understand each others work...
are we working together as a team or are we jealous...


Some people are said to be born not to work with body and it is who they are , deeply but they work very very very much in other ways.


We should talk about it before we marry to our partner and we should work as a team not against each other.
We should understand each other and support and as a team we can do wonders of good.

A problem should be adressed and it is very important one understands before marriage where one stands to this.

An brilliant artist or real royal or etc may work in a way with many times and dimensions we compatible to understans size and ages etc.


Or a shoemaker may also work in a amazing level we coprehend but theres different levels of shoemakers you know....


One should not be asked for more than one can perform with who one is.


There spicture of a teacher cartoon saying to "students" : so it be fair i give all same task. Climb top of tree and see who fastest. There a monkey and a elephant and a bird (lol) and a snake and a dog etc.....


Then you may say well if we are all monkeys but all monkeys are different as well.
One monkey may cheat. no not a little a lot and be to evil yet look good and feel god.


Anyway we are diferent in who and all we are and we should try understand this and support eachother in who we are.

Some may never feel understood by most because of reasons and when they meet "there own" which may be a rare breed ....they feel understood.
Maybe they only meet one or two of those ever....



#Communication before marriage.
#support and understand and appreciate each other.
#work as team not against each other and dont be jealous of your spouse.
#make a care nup as well asprenup before marriage take work in to regard.
#Be honest
#understand we are diferent and that neednt be bad. work together, compliment eachother.
#flow in union.

 

[isaria]

Also there is bilingual people who may be discriminated and "run over" by many because they speak another language or have difficulty articulating to all people or by the "usual " ways.
There are different ways and devices to help and many people may try steal there money by disabling instead of abling if they are educated professional but whisper or bilingual.
They have so many "dominating them" so they steal there money that they need find support team help them advocate assess what is theres.
So much money involved... difficult and easy pay people off or look other way and murder happens also or and threates and torture on such levels.


As for body work that is at least seen.
But for a intellectual workaholic who uses spiritual and intellect work but bilingual and alone they may need spend years getting what is rightfully theres.

 

[overcomer2]

I do feel their is a difference between men and women. I believe the scripture about women to be keeper of the home:
Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Now, I was raised by a woman who was divorced and had to work so I do know that life. I believe the ideal is for woman to keep the house/farm/children etc. I know I sometimes have to do manly chores. Like, I had to chase a big 6 year old red mean bull into a trailer just last week. I would choose not to do this except my husband said get out here. Okay, I do not use chainsaws (man's job) I do not do car repairs (man's job). However, I run a farm, with horses, goats, cattle, chickens etc. I school my children. I saved us $40.00 today on brakes and rotors because of black Friday(yeah). I do believe we need women and men to be women and men.

 

[secularhermit]

"Do you think God made Male the stronger sex
for hard labor? And woman for being wife and mother?"

I think He made Eve to help ADAM... The rest is pending to be heard from HIM...

 

[secularhermit]

(...) My aunt worked at Cooper Tire plant along side the men (...) Now she works at an Army Depot, on a high risk factory line producing explosives..that's all I can say.

She works very hard,she's tough. But I do wish she could do something else. i don't think its womens work.

Wow! Keep it low! If she is SINGLE, some one would like to woo her to get the benefit of $ in case she be blown out... That job fits some motherin law I have seen... Ha! Ha! Ha! (That includes my own mother)

Partly true and partly joking, but allow me to tel that true some have experienced.

 

[secularhermit]

I feel conflicted about this subject as it has always puzzled me. (...) Like kindness, gentleness, compassion,respect, and above all Love.

Well, I am puzzled too.

I played the role of a mother, some time ago (my Joshua is 19 years now and Elisha 17). I wnated to give Josh my best. I never played with "dolls", so that time gave me the chance to learn from my own 1st baby (Elisha wasn´t planned, so I was screwed up in raising 2).

Time passed and I know HOW I failed. My ex-wife was a GOOD help. She made more money than me, but money NEVER reached "our" expectations and diapers and ALL that stuff isn´t cheap (as you now know).

For me, as a father (and half mother) HA! Ha! I knew how to hug them the way you like (and I never liked having had one brother at the place I knew as "home" and my mother gave us more brothers and a LOVING STRONG sister).

As a family, man and woman have to settle down what ECONOMY the would LIKE to live and what THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY (make it in a written paper, to avoid forgetting that contract on the economy of marriage).

The moment I asked my ex-wife to take car of babies, followed my resigning from the job I was getting PART of the money my children needed (my ex-wife was and IS good to make money).


After some experiences and learning from other people, you´d have your own opinion and position on that. Time WILL TELL YOU MISSED important time while you were working in a PC or in a office to make your children look better, to be dressed up and look fine to "your" eyes (because secretly you didn´t want to be LOOKED DOWN). Time will tell you MANY things you´d like to ignore closing your eyes. Of course! Some children may say: "You don´t love me or YOU DIDN´T LOVE ME" (My daughter JOY told me that, because her mom pushed her to think that MONEY IS LOVE, but I know how I love and LOVED her (and all).

Inside the room, YOUR HOME, there is a lot of WORK you won´t never be paid (you don´t need to, by the way). Those days you looked after your child watching all those nights to control the fever, his/her coughing (etc) (etc) won´t be paid. Firstly, THEY CAME HERE because you "called" them to be with you (no child has come without a sexual invitation) (only those you have adopted). 2ndly, that job won´t be paid because it is the best job GOD HAS GIVEN A MAN AND HIS WOMAN (Thank YOU, Lord, for that blessing I enjoyed). 3erly, IT WAS THE ONLY WAY I have to know more deeply my father´s feelings, my GRANDMOTHER´S TOILS, how I was raised and, the last, I KNEW MORE ABOUT GOD WHEN BEING ME, as father (not the best, not the worst) and as "mother".

I hope these serve for any of you, unpaid labors who love (and loved) their children and those days that are to pass by.

 

[secularhermit]

Hey! Men were not thought to be donkeys having UNNECESSARY burdens...

 

[p_rehbein]

I don't think there is a "one size fits all" answer to this question.......and while the Bible speaks of woman being the "weaker" sex, don't forget about how some of the women in the Bible toiled............really hard out in the fields.....just saying.

My Mamaw, on her best day wearing work boots, probably never topped 5 feet......and I don't think she weighed over 100 pounds ever......but she worked harder than any man I have ever known. I used to try and keep up with her, and I was a physically fit High School football star, but she would leave me in her dust every time. Geesssh! Mamaw, ain't it water time?

And, on the flip side, I've known women who would struggle to boil water (and some men too ). It probably has to do with one's upbringing I suppose. As well as one's physical condition. Throughout History women have worked "side by side" with their husbands........that's what a "help-mate" is in my opinion. As the years have passed, and society has changed, in the way people make a living.....things have changed as well.

But I bet folks could go to certain parts of the World now and find women who routinely work just as the men do. Out of necessity to eke out an existence.

 

[T_Laurich]

I think this all goes down to the Curse put on man...

Genesis 3:17

And to the man he said, "Since you listened to your wife and ate from the tree whose fruit I commanded you not to eat, the ground is cursed because of you. All your life you will struggle to scratch a living from it.



So if women want to share in our curse and carry theirs as well... More power to them...

But I do think we are anatomically made to be a more physical barer... And endure more physical stress...

Where as woman have the blessing of being able to endure higher mental stress levels... (From what I have noticed of normal mature adults)

 

[overcomer2]

I took the op to mean more like working like a man in the workplace or military or something of this nature. Not, work or not to work. Really, if you are a Christian the Lord hates idleness, however, I do believe you can see the way a man is built and a woman and see the differences. I believe much of what people think about the roles of men and women stem from the last 50 years of divorce, women's lib etc. Women want to look like men and men are acting and looking like women.

The Lord said men would toil in the field. Women be keepers of the home. Both require much labor.
Proverbs 31:27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

 

[Rachel20]

Men and women are physically different from each other I agree.

Also I agree with T_Laurich about the curse, which was different for Adam and Eve.

However, I also believe this, that Christ has freed us from every curse.
And that if our calling and our duties are to work in a certain field, then we can do it happily, glorifying God and praising him.

If it is to lift weights or any manual labour, whatever it is , do it for the glory of God.

In this day and these times, both men and women work in very competitive fields, jobs are hard to come by and gender is no longer an excuse.

I am glad that this is the case because a person's work should be the focal point of evaluation, not their gender.


And I see no use in talking about the things of the past and the way it used to be - because we are not going back to the past. That's not going to happen and it's not going to help anyone.

And stereotyping jobs, as feminine and masculine is silly. If a job , (which is not against God and not encouraging sin) is done for the glory of God, then why should anyone have a problem with it?

As time passes, we all get worn out and suffer. It is a cycle of life. Each one of us have different burdens and different callings.

But I would not tell a little girl, that she is limited and she ought to do only certain things because she was made that way.

I would tell her , She can do all things through Christ who strengthens her.

I understand all your views and respect your reasons.
These are just mine.

God bless you and much love.