I want the truth , no beating around the bush

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Isdaniel

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lookingforthetruth said:
Answer this simple question , why did the son worship the father yet the father never worship the son ?
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hmmm interesting lets see this verse will answer your quetion

john 20

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


now please tell me why did God say let everthing worship Jesus ?
 
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Isdaniel said:
What is the funtion moon ?

Who is the illterate prophet ?
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I didnt get your question is it what is the function of the moon ? and its prophet muhammad(saw) which further testifys to the quran because since he couldnt write how could he come up with such a linguistic and scientific perfection of literary work plus did you know before the age of 40 his nickname was the truthful meaning he never lied .Its so inconsistent of him to lie now
 
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Isdaniel said:
hmmm interesting lets see this verse will answer your quetion

john 20

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


now please tell me why did God say let everthing worship Jesus ?
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Where does it say jesus said worship me ? he said im going to my god ? which muslims agree with because muslims believe god ascended him to heaven to save him from the nakedness of the cross because a prophet of god shouldnt have his yeah private parts hanging out for the public to see
 
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lookingforthetruth said:
I didnt get your question is it what is the function of the moon ? and its prophet muhammad(saw) which further testifys to the quran because since he couldnt write how could he come up with such a linguistic and scientific perfection of literary work plus did you know before the age of 40 his nickname was the truthful meaning he never lied .Its so inconsistent of him to lie now
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yes what is the funtion of the moon ? is it to give light alone hmmm science hmmm interesting how people lean on that at their convienence .
 
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lookingforthetruth said:
Where does it say jesus said worship me ? he said im going to my god ? which muslims agree with because muslims believe god ascended him to heaven to save him from the nakedness of the cross because a prophet of god shouldnt have his yeah private parts hanging out for the public to see
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you have not answer the question why did God the Father command that we and angels worship Jesus ? Why?

Is God contracdicting Himself
 
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The title says I want the truth, But, they don't believe in the Bible that has the truth in it. If you want the truth, you have to go to the source ,that's God , ask Him for the truth. But, if some one dose not believe in God's words, how in the world are they going to find the truth ? The answer is their not. God's word needs to be accepted as His Words.
 
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lookingforthetruth said:
Where does it say jesus said worship me ? he said im going to my god ? which muslims agree with because muslims believe god ascended him to heaven to save him from the nakedness of the cross because a prophet of god shouldnt have his yeah private parts hanging out for the public to see
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Was Isaiah a prophet of God ?
 
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lookingforthetruth said:
Yeah but im doing what my quran and bible tells me it tells me "1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things " so id like to logically come to that conclusion but so far that are so many things that i dont understand but simply confuse me in the christian belief and i mean god says in the bible 1 Corinthians 14:33 (King James Version) " for god is not the author of confusion "so yeah
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When did you start reading the Quran? It is a made up book. You know, like Joseph Smith made up the Book of Mormon.

600 years after Christ, Muhammad read Old and New Testament writings, took from early Aramaic writings and made some stuff up on his own. Later, his followers put his writings in book form. Are you sure you want to try to believe it?
 
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lookingforthetruth said:
where does god say that ??
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Hebrews 1

King James Version (KJV)

1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
6And again, when he ( GOD ) bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he (GOD) saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. (JESUS )
 
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Isdaniel

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lookingforthetruth said:
Yeah he was :)
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hmmm lets see what you said if it matches with the bible

[h=3]Isaiah 20[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 In the year that Tartan came unto Ashdod, (when Sargon the king of Assyria sent him,) and fought against Ashdod, and took it;
2 At the same time spake the Lord by Isaiah the son of Amoz, saying, Go and loose the sackcloth from off thy loins, and put off thy shoe from thy foot. And he did so, walking naked and barefoot.
3 And the Lord said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;
4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.
 
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156. And because of their (Jews) disbelief and uttering against Maryam (Mary) a grave false charge (that she has committed illegal sexual intercourse);

157. And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts.*They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture.*For surely; they killed him not [i.e.*'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

158. But Allah raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens).*And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.

159. And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allah and a human being], before his ['Iesa (Jesus) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death).*And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Iesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them.
 
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156. And because of their (Jews) disbelief and uttering against Maryam (Mary) a grave false charge (that she has committed illegal sexual intercourse);

157. And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts.*They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture.*For surely; they killed him not [i.e.*'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

158. But Allah raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens).*And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.

159. And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allah and a human being], before his ['Iesa (Jesus) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death).*And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Iesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them.........is this written in the Quran
 
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lookingforthetruth said:
Start by proving to me where Jesus claimed divinity ?
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Have you not read Jesus' own statement in Revelation 1:17-18 where he applies divine title to himself?
" “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."

In verse 8 of that same chapter he calls himself the Alpha and the Omega. This too is divine title.

Have you not read the words of the Father quoted in Hebrews 1:8 from the Psalmist where the Father addresses the Son as God?
"But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom."
 
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Isdaniel said:
yes what is the funtion of the moon ? is it to give light alone hmmm science hmmm interesting how people lean on that at their convienence .
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The moon helps in agriculture and births of healthy babies

Deuteronomy 33:14And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon,
 
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