...and it's either you have been deceived by Wordsponge's unbiblical doctrine or this is one person with two user accounts. I suspect it is the latter.
Recovering from the Matt. 28:19 Baptism formula. Pro-Christ Gentile save thyself.
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cfultz3
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But, what has Scripture said about what is the "ordained access" to God?
This is I asked and he replied, "why harmonize it with the scriptures which is not the Lord God?"
Then you, of the same flock, came and said that you are confused.
There is no confusion, faith is that "ordained access to God", not a procedural water baptism.
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cfultz3
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I said faith in the One God sent is the ordained access to God, and you said I have been lied to?
And since I believe this, I love darkness and am self-willed?
I am not deceived by gentle speaking. You and Wordsponge has added to Scripture and I am the one who is deceived/deceiving?
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cfultz3
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Then one who is called OneJack came in agreeing and backing up what you two have been saying and said, "why harmonize it (what you two have been saying about true baptism being a procedural water baptism) with the scriptures which is not the Lord God?"
Those who followed Jim Jones and the like did not harmonize what they were told by that leader and do you see where that got them: following a false Christ who sent them straight to hell with their unbiblical doctrine? Just because they did not prove what was being told them through Scripture.
Those who followed Jim Jones and the like did not harmonize what they were told by that leader and do you see where that got them: following a false Christ who sent them straight to hell with their unbiblical doctrine? Just because they did not prove what was being told them through Scripture.
Go forward bravely with faith in who ? only....
Isa.1
[19] If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
[20] But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword:
for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Does the following sound like Faith only:
John.14
[24] He who loveth me not keepeth (OBEYS) not my sayings:
and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Does that sound like YOUR JUDGE taught faith only...?
You trapped.
Look after yourself in ALL honesty.
We will stand before the LORD.
Jesus appeared among the Jews after their false teachers had things
well established.
Jesus Christ the same yesterday , today and forever.
When it comes to belonging to Christ there is no SUSPECTING.
He is the Master at destroying False Prophets and there childern.
Keep well,
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cfultz3
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Go forward bravely with faith in who ? only....
Isa.1
[19] If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
[20] But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword:
for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Does the following sound like Faith only:
John.14
[24] He who loveth me not keepeth (OBEYS) not my sayings:
and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Does that sound like YOUR JUDGE taught faith only...?
You trapped.
Look after yourself in ALL honesty.
I repeat, the only required work of God for salvation is faith. Now, if you wish to talk about lively faith verses dead faith, then we can talk about that also.
Let us reason together, is "calling upon the Lord while under the water" really the "ordained access" to God or have you added to His sayings?
As for me, I will keep His sayings and will not add to it.
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cfultz3
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Jesus, the One who is the Christ, is the One who said that faith is the work of God.
Then you come along and imply that you have been instructed to teach men the method which has been lost to generations of souls.
I gave Scripture. You add to Scripture. And you say that I contradict Christ? Really?
It is written...
Galatians 1:8 "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed".
You, Sir, are preaching another gospel.
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doulos
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A heretic.Your statements go against God's Word, so what does that make you?
At least he admits it.
Mat_15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Luk_6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
I sure hope his followers daughteroflight and OneJack open their eyes and see the light before they end up in a ditch.
Keep them in your prayers!
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The Shepherds of Darkness/ Falsehood awakening:
Eph.6
[12] For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood >> (like in a physical warfare)
but against principalities (people),
against powers (people),
against the rulers (men) of the darkness (falsehood) of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places >> (by the influential people)
[13] Wherefore take unto yourself the whole armor of/from GOD
that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
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[17] …..and the Sword of/ from the Spirit,
that is the Word of GOD >> (to Baptize calling on Jesus, GOD’s beloved Savior)
We are not alone.
Eph.6
[12] For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood >> (like in a physical warfare)
but against principalities (people),
against powers (people),
against the rulers (men) of the darkness (falsehood) of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places >> (by the influential people)
[13] Wherefore take unto yourself the whole armor of/from GOD
that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
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[17] …..and the Sword of/ from the Spirit,
that is the Word of GOD >> (to Baptize calling on Jesus, GOD’s beloved Savior)
We are not alone.
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doulos
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No you are not alone, we were told that wolves in sheeps clothing would try to mislead us!
Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Christ instructed us to baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Those who do as Christ instructed are not false prophet's despite your eronneous teaching.
Quote taken from http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/79942-one-doctrine-no-divisions-2.html#post1302706
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Deut.19
[16] If a false witness rise up against any man,
to testify against him what is wrong (evil)
[17] then both of the men, between whom the controversy exists,
shall stand before the LORD (Jesus), before the priests and the judges, who shall be in those days;
[18] And the judges shall make diligent inquisition:
and, behold, if the witness is a false witness, and has testified falsely against his brother;
[19] Then you shall do to him what he wanted to have done to his brother:
so you shall put away (eradicate) evil (people and the evil way) from among you.
[16] If a false witness rise up against any man,
to testify against him what is wrong (evil)
[17] then both of the men, between whom the controversy exists,
shall stand before the LORD (Jesus), before the priests and the judges, who shall be in those days;
[18] And the judges shall make diligent inquisition:
and, behold, if the witness is a false witness, and has testified falsely against his brother;
[19] Then you shall do to him what he wanted to have done to his brother:
so you shall put away (eradicate) evil (people and the evil way) from among you.
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doulos
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Isn't the false witness the one who instructs contrary to the teachings of Christ by teaching that those who follow Christ's instructions concerning baptism bearing false witness against the Scriptures?
Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
This was Jesus command to his disciples. this is how they baptised in his name only (Jesus) the only name you can be saved. Then they received the Holy Spirit
This was Jesus command to his disciples. this is how they baptised in his name only (Jesus) the only name you can be saved. Then they received the Holy Spirit
Matt.28:19 is a hoax.
It is admitted by the BEST that is was added to the Bible.
The very people who did it ....
Keep well my friend.
The LORD Jesus remembers everything... Guess how I know that.
The 'Fathers' who did this forgot about GOD and his intervention in human affairs.
Their children should act like Daniel, confess and correct the PARTICULAR BAPTISM.
Fear not we are GOD' s people who know Our God from GOD his Father.
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cfultz3
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And he calls God a lair when Jehovah says that there is but One God:
And as he claims to have been given the secret formula to salvation, he continues to say that God lied when He has declared faith in His Son as the means to salvation (works of the flesh is not pleasing to God):
And eons worth of souls have been damned just because they were not baptist in the manner in which that shepherd claims to be the "ordained access" to God.
Notice that he says that we are disciples of the Apostles, but yet, Scripture says that we are Christ's disciples. Jesus is the One who said, "Come and follow me", the same One who the Apostles followed. Perhaps, he meant that Paul was saying to be imitators of him and not followers?
Notice also that he says that the Apostles bring us to Christ, but yet, once again, Scripture says the Holy Spirit leads us to Christ. Perhaps, he meant that we are to be lights unto the world?
P.S. would you call this a shepherd of darkness, seeing that he boldly contradicts Scripture without hesitation?
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cfultz3
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And there we have a shepherd leading people away from Scripture. O' enlightened one, how dare you to place doubt in peoples' mind as concerning God's written Word.
Shall we abandon the Scripture and follow you, the one who claims to have been given the hidden secret to salvation?