Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

[LatentAuthor]

SO YOU WANT TO SAY GOD IS EVIL? REALLY? NO!!!! BUT GOD GAVE MAN RULE ON EARTH,WE ARE FREE TO MAKE IMMORAL LAWS OF THE LAND AND IN SOME CASES TO SPARE THOSE DEFEATED IN WAR AND TAKE THEM AS SLAVES.

In the Bible God tells people that they are allowed to take slaves to own as their property forever. Since you mentioned those defeated in war, in the Bible God also explicitly demands that entire cities and nations be killed, including women and children.

You have already stated that it is wrong to own another human being, and I assume you would also state that it is wrong to kill women and children. Given that the Bible condones and commands these immoral things, why should we use it as a moral guide on the topic of homosexuality? Please note that I am not saying God is evil, I am simply asking you a question.

 

[LatentAuthor]

NOW YOU ANSWER! ARE YOU SAYING GOD AND GOD'S WORD ARE EVIL AND YOUR MORALS ARE HIGHER THAN GOD ALMIGHTY!!!!??

I am not saying God or the Bible are evil. I am not saying anything about my morals except to agree with you that owning another person is wrong.

 

[GISMYS]

MAKE UP YOUR "DOUBLE"MIND IS GOD ALMIGHTY GOD ALMIGHTY OR ARE YOU HIS MORAL SUPRIOR?

 

[LatentAuthor]

MAKE UP YOUR "DOUBLE"MIND IS GOD ALMIGHTY GOD ALMIGHTY OR ARE YOU HIS MORAL SUPRIOR?

I side with you on this one - it seems we are able to recognize slavery as immoral whereas the bible does not.

 

[GISMYS]

""I side with you on this one - it seems we are able to recognize slavery as immoral whereas the bible does not"" WRONG!!YOU JUST LACK WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING! GOD'S WORD IS ETERNAL TRUTH 100000%====JOHN 1:1-5==In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

 

[LatentAuthor]

WRONG!!YOU JUST LACK WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING! GOD'S WORD IS ETERNAL TRUTH 100000%

Is this "eternal truth"?

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life. . . --Lev. 25:44-46

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I thought you said it was wrong to own another person as a slave.

 

[Rockbysea]

Please provide a reference to a school public school curriculum that includes teaching children how to masturbate. That sounds utterly ridiculous, as do most of the other claims here.

It’s called sex education. That was in schools going back to the 60s here in Canada. In my own personal experience starting in grade 5 sex education classes became mandatory. The classes were separated by gender and in my class the school principle conducted the lessons for the boys. In that class he taught about masturbation, what sperm looked like, how the sex organs interact and asked for a show of hands of those who have masturbated. One kid who was bigger than everybody else put up his hand. That was the first time I heard anything besides rumors about masturbation.

My friends today who have kids in public school are furious because of sex education classes because now they include same sex education. Kids are taught before they even have any sexual attractions, before they reach puberty that it’s normal to be attracted to the same sex and that anal sex is normal.

Father's could sell their children to cover debts, owners of foreign slaves could keep their slaves and the children of their slaves as property forever, and slave owners could beat their slaves. . .as long as they didn't die right away. Come on, we both know that if either of us saw this taking place today

People today are ignorant of their own indentured servitude and that’s by design. They have a lien placed upon their persons and are unaware of it. They are landless slaves to the very same landowners but done through the agents of the landowners… the government. Instead of the slavery being restricted to one industry (agriculture), to one area (the plantation) and to one race (the Africans) today the entire western world is one huge slave grid. And instead of the masters having to go through all the trouble of having to provide their slaves with food, clothing, housing and healthcare now they leave the slaves with a portion of their wages so they can struggle to barely provide some of these things for themselves. The slave owners never had it so good because the slaves are totally unaware of their captivity.

Slavery by Consent The SIN - YouTube​

 

[homwardbound]

You don't think a converted Christian can judge between right and wrong?

[h=3]Matthew 15:12-14[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Then the disciples came and told him, “You offended the Pharisees by that remark.”

[SUP]13-14 [/SUP]Jesus replied,
“Every plant not planted by my Father shall be rooted up, so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and both will fall into a ditch.”

I know god came to earth to redeem us in the Spirit not the flesh. Actually bring life to our Spirit each that believe.
Christ did this through the cross, while we were yet sinners Christ died for us all.
Those that choose to believe God get set free, having a personal relationship between God and that one that God has shown God's Mercy to,
god has given a measure to all mankind, and all that have received this Love as God has and does
Flesh is selfish to its way, where as God is not
Flesh tries to create, being God, and tries to get followers
Where as Spirit responds to the creator of all, in Thanksgiving and praise, and it is by this Love of God that no flesh can comprehend, Others come to join God
I am nothing more than an ambassador representing, the Lover, joy, Peace and righteousness found no other place than through the Christ, through the cross

What teaches a man to say no to unrighteousness?
Is it condemnation or Love?
Is man flesh Love or is God?
I have no right to condemn anyone, anywhere at anytime. Why? Because I have no righteousness of my own. I had none before saved and or after saved
I do have righteousness though, and it is not mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is God's and God's alone. I am thankful that I am a participator in this not a professor, a newsboy over an editor
Matthew 5:44
But I say: Love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you!
Matthew 5:46 If you love only those who love you, what good is that? Even scoundrels do that much
Luke 6:27 “Listen, all of you. Love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you.
Luke 6:32 “Do you think you deserve credit for merely loving those who love you? Even the godless do that!
Luke 6:35 “Love your enemies! Do good to them! Lend to them! And don’t be concerned about the fact that they won’t repay. Then your reward from heaven will be very great, and you will truly be acting as sons of God: for he is kind to the unthankful and to those who are very wicked.

 

[homwardbound]

You don't think a converted Christian can judge between right and wrong?

Sure only between themselves and God. I must take care of my own board in my own eye before I can take care of my Neighbors speck in his
And
2 Corinthians 10:5 casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
2 Corinthians 10:6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Still want to punish and condemn? not even Christ did and Christ is perfect, as he said to that Woman where are thine accusers? And neither do I (Christ speaking) accuse you.
Go and sin no more. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I would be floored and definitely not want to sin ever again.
Now eventually I will have to come to rest that God's grace is sufficient for me as in 2Cor. 12, where Paul learned to stop being self righteous, and learned to be dependent on God the Father as Christ was, being humble no matter what he did. Now that is trust, that I trust God to teach me and all that believe God

 

[homwardbound]

But we are speaking on the righteousness of things not the law of moses but the subject is no God does not aprove of homosexuality

God never approved wit any sin ever since Adam and Eve Brother, so what do we do with that I am not deserving ever are you?
2 Corinthians 10:6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

not saying you are Judging, I am saying God just love us all, and it is up to each of us to Love as God did while we were yet sinners he died for us.
Now is that awesome or not?
Is it up to me to police others, or is it God that gives the increase, so all I, you or anyone else can do is what?
Love or condemn?

 

[homwardbound]

You don't think a converted Christian can judge between right and wrong?

Truthfully only Father can re -read whom it is that speaks through you, only if you are willing to get out of the way.

Did, does God love all? Whom is the one to get others to stand? God or man?

 

[LatentAuthor]

It’s called sex education. That was in schools going back to the 60s here in Canada. In my own personal experience starting in grade 5 sex education classes became mandatory. The classes were separated by gender and in my class the school principle conducted the lessons for the boys. In that class he taught about masturbation, what sperm looked like, how the sex organs interact and asked for a show of hands of those who have masturbated. One kid who was bigger than everybody else put up his hand. That was the first time I heard anything besides rumors about masturbation.

Yes, this is pretty much the standard - "hey your body is about to start changing" talk. All parents are notified prior to it taking place - notes on how to masturbate are not included, although it does occasionally come up with student questions. Just FYI, I've actually done these as a teacher.

My friends today who have kids in public school are furious because of sex education classes because now they include same sex education. Kids are taught before they even have any sexual attractions, before they reach puberty that it’s normal to be attracted to the same sex and that anal sex is normal.

As far as I know, this is not included in any state's curriculum for the 5th grade puberty talk. However, if the question comes up about homosexuality, and occasionally it does, I think it only fair to provide students with the most up-to-date research on the topic: That there is a range of sexual attraction, and that while most people are attracted to members of the opposite sex, others are not. I know I, personally, have explained this before - adding that people also have a wide range of views on the topic.

At schools, we generally like to teach about things we know and not things that various religions believe. You know, almost like there's this wall between church and state. . .

People today are ignorant of their own indentured servitude and that’s by design.

While fascinating, this doesn't address my point.

 

[Apostol2013]

Later I am sad that you think in such manner instead of study the covenant of Jesus study Him well to be edified then you will understand all scripture

 

[Apostol2013]

God never approved wit any sin ever since Adam and Eve Brother, so what do we do with that I am not deserving ever are you?
2 Corinthians 10:6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disbobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

not saying you are Judging, I am saying God just love us all, and it is up to each of us to Love as God did while we were yet sinners he died for us.
Now is that awesome or not?
Is it up to me to police others, or is it God that gives the increase, so all I, you or anyone else can do is what?
Love or condemn?

well brother I am not condemning but pointing out reality God condemns sin but redeems the sinner if the sinner confesses in true repentance a true repentance is to change and not regress from sin prusumtuosly now the sinner is encouraged to keep trying till he bears fruit then Christ said if the person does so he will be saved the point here is God hates the sin but loves the sinner to bring himnrepentance grace is the gift without being deserving but his truth will sanctify . we are required effort on our part remember faith without works is dead but first we must confess accept and be baptized for without Christ we are nothing ..

 

[Apostol2013]

God never approved wit any sin ever since Adam and Eve Brother, so what do we do with that I am not deserving ever are you?
2 Corinthians 10:6 and having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

not saying you are Judging, I am saying God just love us all, and it is up to each of us to Love as God did while we were yet sinners he died for us.
Now is that awesome or not?
Is it up to me to police others, or is it God that gives the increase, so all I, you or anyone else can do is what?
Love or condemn

Oh brother but also I was just pointing out in relativity to the forum question but the brother seems to be upset that the truth is told but its up to the individual to adhere no I don't judge just a messenger love you brother

 

[LatentAuthor]

Later I am sad that you think in such manner instead of study the covenant of Jesus study Him well to be edified then you will understand all scripture

I've heard it said that if you can't explain something then you don't actually understand it. I have actually put quite a bit of study into scripture, but I've found that virtually all Christians simply pick and choose what we want from the Bible and what we want to ignore.

 

[Conotocarious]

I've heard it said that if you can't explain something then you don't actually understand it. I have actually put quite a bit of study into scripture, but I've found that virtually all Christians simply pick and choose what we want from the Bible and what we want to ignore.

This is true. It is a shame.

 

[Rockbysea]

Yes, this is pretty much the standard - "hey your body is about to start changing" talk. All parents are notified prior to it taking place - notes on how to masturbate are not included, although it does occasionally come up with student questions. Just FYI, I've actually done these as a teacher.

As far as I know, this is not included in any state's curriculum for the 5th grade puberty talk. However, if the question comes up about homosexuality, and occasionally it does, I think it only fair to provide students with the most up-to-date research on the topic: That there is a range of sexual attraction, and that while most people are attracted to members of the opposite sex, others are not. I know I, personally, have explained this before - adding that people also have a wide range of views on the topic.

At schools, we generally like to teach about things we know and not things that various religions believe. You know, almost like there's this wall between church and state. . .

While fascinating, this doesn't address my point.

• The heathen says that talking to your children about the changes taking place in their bodies is standard procedure.
• The heathen will notify you when he is about to talk to your children about their bodies
• The heathen will not provide your children with notes on how to masturbate… he’ll just discuss it with them.
• The heathen will talk to your children about masturbation but only “occasionally” if one of them asks a question about it.
• The heathen will talk to your children about homosexuality but only “occasionally” if one of them asks a question about it.
• The heathen believes it’s “only fair” to talk to your children about homosexuality and provide your children with the most up-to-date heathen research about homosexuality.
• The heathen will personally talk to your children about the entire range of sexual attraction including those who are attracted to the same sex.
• The heathen likes to teach your children about heathen things that he knows and not the godly things that you non-heathen parents think you know.
• The heathen says there’s a wall that has been erected by law that exists between non-heathens and heathens and because your child is on the non-heathens’ side of the wall they will teach your children all the things that the heathens know including all the things they know about homosexuality

Would God the Father allow a heathen to teach His child according to heathen knowledge all the things the heathens know including all the things the heathens know about masturbation and homosexuality?

No!

Should a child of God allow a heathen to teach his child according to heathen knowledge all the things the heathens know including all the things the heathens know about masturbation and homosexuality?

No!

A true apostle of Christ would never allow his child to be taught the things heathens “know” by any heathen and would command his brethren who are believing parents, under the authority of Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God, to do the same.

Those who do not hear Christ’s voice “are ignorant of their own indentured servitude” and are not serving the true Master. They are not the children of God therefore it’s of no concern because “those [the heathen] who are outside God judges.”

 

[doll]

I believe that it's wrong and a sin to be homosexual. That doesn't make the person evil, just a sinner. Some people have a perverse spirit on them. I am not defending it at all. What really steams me is when the homosexuals try to twist the words in the Bible to justify living that lifestyle. God is all knowing, there are so many reasons that being homosexual can harm your life.

I can speak from personal experience. My mother is gay. But she is also not a good person.
She put her relationship with a woman before her relationship with her child. I was terrorized in school, simply because she had to bring her girlfriend there on report card days and flaunt her relationship.
It should not have happened. After high school I just quit defending her.Why should a child have to constantly be persecuted for their parents choices?
How many times did I have to walk in on her gf and her having sex-it should been zero. It scared me for life.
No child should haveto go through this, so I DONT support gay couples adopting or having any right to a child.

 

[Conotocarious]

Does God accept what?

I am compelled to post scripture, but it probably won't make a difference.