Women and teaching in the church

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how do you feel about that.


i know theres scripture saying women are to be quiet and man teach.. but i cant find the scripture.
 

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;)


1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
 

oldhermit

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i dont see it in 1 Cor. 14
34The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. 36Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? 37If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
 

jb

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All the male chauvinists will now crawl out of the woodwork! :p
 

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How does one equate chauvinism with respecting what God has spoken on this matter?
 
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1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I wish you'd find one with the bear falling out of his chair laughing his head off at the foolishness that's about to take place.:p
 
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I wish you'd find one with the bear falling out of his chair laughing his head off at the foolishness that's about to take place.:p
so you are saying the gospel is foolish.

i see who this is....
 

jb

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How does one equate chauvinism with respecting what God has spoken on this matter?
Your view on this subject is spiritually unbalanced and myopic to say the least, you take 2 Scriptures (1Cor 14v34,35, 1Tim 2v11-15) out of context (they are dealing with a domestic context, NOT church practice, for Paul says in 14v26, "everyone of you hath..." 1Cor 12v7 "the Spirit is given to each one...", 1Cor 11v5 also clearly teaches that women can pray and prophesy in a church meeting, and so forth) and table that as ALL the truth on this subject that the Scriptures has to offer!

You also disregard the fact that Priscilla taught Apollos (whom Paul says was an apostle) the way of God more accurately...Acts 18v26

And other such Scriptures you conveniently disregard!
 
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Your view on this subject is spiritually unbalanced and myopic to say the least, you take 2 Scriptures (1Cor 14v34,35, 1Tim 2v11-15) out of context (they are dealing with a domestic context, NOT church practice, for Paul says in 14v26, "everyone of you hath..." 1Cor 12v7 "the Spirit is given to each one...", 1Cor 11v5 also clearly teaches that women can pray and prophesy in a church meeting, and so forth) and table that as ALL the truth on this subject that the Scriptures has to offer!

You also disregard the fact that Priscilla taught Apollos (whom Paul says was an apostle) the way of God more accurately...Acts 18v26

And other such Scriptures you conveniently disregard!
the irony... it seems you have chosen to disregard scripture clearly stating women to not teach and not to teach man.
34The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. 36Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? 37If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
 

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Your view on this subject is spiritually unbalanced and myopic to say the least, you take 2 Scriptures (1Cor 14v34,35, 1Tim 2v11-15) out of context (they are dealing with a domestic context, NOT church practice, for Paul says in 14v26, "everyone of you hath..." 1Cor 12v7 "the Spirit is given to each one...", 1Cor 11v5 also clearly teaches that women can pray and prophesy in a church meeting, and so forth) and table that as ALL the truth on this subject that the Scriptures has to offer!

You also disregard the fact that Priscilla taught Apollos (whom Paul says was an apostle) the way of God more accurately...Acts 18v26

And other such Scriptures you conveniently disregard!
I have noticed that when someone gives an exegesis of a text that disagrees with someone else that exegesis is regarded as "out of context." Thus far, I have made no comment about either passage. All I have done is simply present the text as they are written and you accuse that of being out of context. Interesting.
 
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women to not teach is an instruction. not something that happened.
 
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1Cor 11v5 also clearly teaches that women can pray and prophesy in a church meeting!
Not correct. The teaching about "when you come together as a church" starts at 1 Cor 11;17.

Women and men don't need to go to a meeting of the saints to pray or prophecy. That, at least, should be self-evident. See Act 21:9.

As for Priscilla teaching Apollos, that is permitted outside of a church meeting where there is a need to be met. Thus there would be no strictures on women teaching Hebrew grammar etc.
 
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Why was there not one sigle female priest ever Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 
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so you are saying the gospel is foolish.

i see who this is....
You see who this is...... really?

Did I say the Gospel is foolish?

I've been called in the preaching ministry for over 30 years..... I'm just curious if you saw that.

That's not bragging, mind you, but just making the point if you "discerned" by the Spirit of God that you know who I am, seems to me you shoulda' known something about that too.
 

john832

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Your view on this subject is spiritually unbalanced and myopic to say the least, you take 2 Scriptures (1Cor 14v34,35, 1Tim 2v11-15) out of context (they are dealing with a domestic context, NOT church practice, for Paul says in 14v26, "everyone of you hath..." 1Cor 12v7 "the Spirit is given to each one...", 1Cor 11v5 also clearly teaches that women can pray and prophesy in a church meeting, and so forth) and table that as ALL the truth on this subject that the Scriptures has to offer!

You also disregard the fact that Priscilla taught Apollos (whom Paul says was an apostle) the way of God more accurately...Acts 18v26

And other such Scriptures you conveniently disregard!
1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

1Co 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

I see no contradiction with these scriptures to I Cor 14:35-36 or I Tim 2:11-12.

What is all boils down to is whether you want ot do what God says or be accepted in this politically correct society. My choice...

Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
 
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Gee ,I wonder what will be if it turns out, that Priscilla, IS actually the author of Hebrews :D
 
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