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I think I know where you're coming from, and I understand what you're feeling but, the way you're doing this, you're almost coming across as passive aggressive. Calling women to the stand for what? Not saying yes? They can say no for a million different reasons. The answer is that for some of us, we just cannot attract women as well as others can. Not all of us are brad pitt. Those of us who aren't, we need to rely on something else - wit, passion, a skill set, something that shows a woman we've got fire inside.
You've got to show people that fire inside, and you have to do it a lot. Seriously, there was a time in my life where I asked out pretty much any one who was fair game. You know what? It actually worked. Not all the time, not even half of the time, but sometimes it worked.
And don't be mean about it, but a second shot at things isn't the worst thing ever.
I think you'd find that a majority of the women in the church feel that it is our duty as men to do the asking out. Some of them want to hear it more than once. You don't have to be disrespectful about it, but if you test the waters first to see where they are at, it sort of counts as your first shot without you ever posing the question. As long as you don't stay out there in no mans land for too long (so she thinks you're not interested), then you still have the option to just go and ask them point blank.
You've got to show people that fire inside, and you have to do it a lot. Seriously, there was a time in my life where I asked out pretty much any one who was fair game. You know what? It actually worked. Not all the time, not even half of the time, but sometimes it worked.
And don't be mean about it, but a second shot at things isn't the worst thing ever.
I think you'd find that a majority of the women in the church feel that it is our duty as men to do the asking out. Some of them want to hear it more than once. You don't have to be disrespectful about it, but if you test the waters first to see where they are at, it sort of counts as your first shot without you ever posing the question. As long as you don't stay out there in no mans land for too long (so she thinks you're not interested), then you still have the option to just go and ask them point blank.
I wish there were more nice guys.
People who are nice on the outside AND inside, and love Jesus most of all.
They are so nice!
I think many women are caught up in the whole romantic, brooding, dark knight hero , who they can change.
All these romance literature and movies. It's all fantasy.
But here's the thing. Only Jesus can.
We are born again, only by the Spirit.
So women stop wasting your time on sociopaths and rude people.
People, it's better to take refuge in the Lord, than to trust in man. (Psalm 118:8)
And nice guys don't finish last. Nice Christian guys are in the race for the faith. Don't finish last please
People who are nice on the outside AND inside, and love Jesus most of all.
They are so nice!
I think many women are caught up in the whole romantic, brooding, dark knight hero , who they can change.
All these romance literature and movies. It's all fantasy.
But here's the thing. Only Jesus can.
We are born again, only by the Spirit.
So women stop wasting your time on sociopaths and rude people.
People, it's better to take refuge in the Lord, than to trust in man. (Psalm 118:8)
And nice guys don't finish last. Nice Christian guys are in the race for the faith. Don't finish last please
Per request of Art05, none of my answers contain an opinion.
Are nice guys finishing last in the Christian culture?
No.
Should they be finishing last with Christian women?
I don't even know what this means.
Why don't Christian women like nice guys?
They do.
If Christian women are not interested in nice guys, but their opposites, then who is to blame: the guys or the girls?
Both.
Are we "nice guys" because we are devoted to Jesus, and not in pleasing the feminine lusts of the flesh?
No.
See how much "fun" a "discussion" is when opinions (or perspectives) aren't allowed?
Are nice guys finishing last in the Christian culture?
No.
Should they be finishing last with Christian women?
I don't even know what this means.
Why don't Christian women like nice guys?
They do.
If Christian women are not interested in nice guys, but their opposites, then who is to blame: the guys or the girls?
Both.
Are we "nice guys" because we are devoted to Jesus, and not in pleasing the feminine lusts of the flesh?
No.
See how much "fun" a "discussion" is when opinions (or perspectives) aren't allowed?
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That's a total 'world' proverb, cliche`.
'Course, nice is defined as a guy who treats a lady with the respect that Christ wants, more so, that Christ demands in the form of no debauchery, drunkenness, and , all those other things in Scripture verses like Galatians 5 .
Herein these words accompany both the GOOD and the BAD values of a guy, with the Christian guy finding the fruits of goodness eternally important because He (and not the world guy) is attached to a life that is serving and searching after Christ's will and plans for His life.
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[SUP]c[/SUP] you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Thus, we have made up a 'nice' guy who finishes first, for He runs his life not for money, not for worldly desires but for the prize of eternal life in Christ Jesus, his Lord.
'Course, nice is defined as a guy who treats a lady with the respect that Christ wants, more so, that Christ demands in the form of no debauchery, drunkenness, and , all those other things in Scripture verses like Galatians 5 .
Herein these words accompany both the GOOD and the BAD values of a guy, with the Christian guy finding the fruits of goodness eternally important because He (and not the world guy) is attached to a life that is serving and searching after Christ's will and plans for His life.
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[SUP]c[/SUP] you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Thus, we have made up a 'nice' guy who finishes first, for He runs his life not for money, not for worldly desires but for the prize of eternal life in Christ Jesus, his Lord.
Per request of Art05, none of my answers contain an opinion.
Are nice guys finishing last in the Christian culture?
No.
Should they be finishing last with Christian women?
I don't even know what this means.
Why don't Christian women like nice guys?
They do.
If Christian women are not interested in nice guys, but their opposites, then who is to blame: the guys or the girls?
Both.
Are we "nice guys" because we are devoted to Jesus, and not in pleasing the feminine lusts of the flesh?
No.
See how much "fun" a "discussion" is when opinions (or perspectives) aren't allowed?
Are nice guys finishing last in the Christian culture?
No.
Should they be finishing last with Christian women?
I don't even know what this means.
Why don't Christian women like nice guys?
They do.
If Christian women are not interested in nice guys, but their opposites, then who is to blame: the guys or the girls?
Both.
Are we "nice guys" because we are devoted to Jesus, and not in pleasing the feminine lusts of the flesh?
No.
See how much "fun" a "discussion" is when opinions (or perspectives) aren't allowed?
I think of a "nice guy" as a male who tries to please people by being...nice. I think of a godly man as a man who strives to please God by seeking His Kingdom first and relentlessly pursuing a deeper relationship with Christ.
Nice guys are usually well liked.
Godly men are usually well respected.
Nice guys make pretty good friends, but I'm looking for a man who will take me by the hand and "fight the good fight" with me each and every day, a man who is filled with a quiet and humble strength that comes from Christ alone. I don't want a nice guy. I want a godly man, and I pray that God would help me become the type of woman worthy of living and serving alongside such a man.
Nice guys are usually well liked.
Godly men are usually well respected.
Nice guys make pretty good friends, but I'm looking for a man who will take me by the hand and "fight the good fight" with me each and every day, a man who is filled with a quiet and humble strength that comes from Christ alone. I don't want a nice guy. I want a godly man, and I pray that God would help me become the type of woman worthy of living and serving alongside such a man.
Bro,
Good observation.
I've seen that happen too.
Of course it's awful.
I just don't think I'd define this as a "nice guy" lol.
We need to define out terms.
Good observation.
I've seen that happen too.
Of course it's awful.
I just don't think I'd define this as a "nice guy" lol.
We need to define out terms.
Art I will answer your question but first must be clear about nice guys... Most guys who think they are nice are not. Nice is pleasing, humble, confident and protecting... Yep that's how I define it strange combo there. Humility is a big one!
Nice guys do not finish last because there are girls out there waiting for that guy... Planning to share life with him. We don't want jerks or guys who will not respect our virtue. We want them to be our first and only guy to hold hands with and dance with and kiss.
Here is the catch you can't be a self-proclaimed nice guy. You have to actually be a nice guy.
A Christian woman by definition is only interested in things pleasing to Christ thus yep she only likes nice guys.
the questions can't really be answered unless the answer is that Christian woman don't like nice guys...
I am a Christian girl who is not ready to nor allowed to date yet.. But when I become a Christian woman I will like nice guys thus the premise of the questions doesn't work... Problem your having is not the answers but the questions..
The answer is do all things in sharing Jesus and His message of love and every good girl all the single Christian ladies will like you... It's that simple... Doing things for Jesus
This is true with slight humor by the way.. Not the part about Christ I don't joke about that but about "nice" guy lol
Anyhow I have no clue why I tried to answer this... Must be bored lol
love ya all,
lexi
Nice guys do not finish last because there are girls out there waiting for that guy... Planning to share life with him. We don't want jerks or guys who will not respect our virtue. We want them to be our first and only guy to hold hands with and dance with and kiss.
Here is the catch you can't be a self-proclaimed nice guy. You have to actually be a nice guy.
A Christian woman by definition is only interested in things pleasing to Christ thus yep she only likes nice guys.
the questions can't really be answered unless the answer is that Christian woman don't like nice guys...
I am a Christian girl who is not ready to nor allowed to date yet.. But when I become a Christian woman I will like nice guys thus the premise of the questions doesn't work... Problem your having is not the answers but the questions..
The answer is do all things in sharing Jesus and His message of love and every good girl all the single Christian ladies will like you... It's that simple... Doing things for Jesus
This is true with slight humor by the way.. Not the part about Christ I don't joke about that but about "nice" guy lol
Anyhow I have no clue why I tried to answer this... Must be bored lol
love ya all,
lexi
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First things first, why are you folks being mean to Art05?
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lol
@Liamson
In short, humble men get the cake!
@Fenner
Ugh.. You wouldn't want me for a husband. I didn't know that some girls are actually annoyed at boys holding open doors for them. I'm just trying to be nice whenever I do that...
Ahh.. you were just joking, the 2nd part of your post made it obvious. xDD
@Praus
Heh...heh...
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@Grace-Like-rain
I agree! I wouldn't want to be the best in the group. I wouln't learn anything, instead I'll have to teach everyone else.
@Art05
Why doesn't Liamson's contrast of a gentleman and a nice guy work?
@Tintin
I agree!
Hahahahahahahahaha!
You know what? This thread is pointless, so I'm not going to read through all of it. I'll just end my reply post here. God bless you, ladies and gentleman.
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lol
@Liamson
In short, humble men get the cake!
@Fenner
Ugh.. You wouldn't want me for a husband. I didn't know that some girls are actually annoyed at boys holding open doors for them. I'm just trying to be nice whenever I do that...
Ahh.. you were just joking, the 2nd part of your post made it obvious. xDD
@Praus
Heh...heh...
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@Grace-Like-rain
I agree! I wouldn't want to be the best in the group. I wouln't learn anything, instead I'll have to teach everyone else.
@Art05
Why doesn't Liamson's contrast of a gentleman and a nice guy work?
@Tintin
I agree!
Hahahahahahahahaha!
You know what? This thread is pointless, so I'm not going to read through all of it. I'll just end my reply post here. God bless you, ladies and gentleman.