Was Jesus resurrected on a Sunday ?

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2Thewaters

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Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Women arrived before morning Dawn on Sunday morning
Let us say 4 am Sunday morning
Jesus had already resurrected

therefore he resurrected on Sunday because the evening and the morning are the ... day.

Now lets look at your theory that dawn is the sunset

You say the women arrived before Sunset
that means they arrived on the Sabbath day
that is not possible

the Time from sundown Saturday to morning dawn sunday is still sunday the first day of the week

Also sundown and sunrise is always 6 pm and 6 am

Soldiers dont sleep at 6 pm it wouldnt be a plausible lie.



he resurected before dawn
so if you say dawn was saturday night then your theory tells me he rose on the Sabbath
no
Jesus wouldnt resurect on the Sabbath. He rested on the Sabbath.
 
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2Thewaters said:
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Women arrived before morning Dawn on Sunday morning
Let us say 4 am Sunday morning
Jesus had already resurrected

therefore he resurrected on Sunday because the evening and the morning are the ... day.

Now lets look at your theory that dawn is the sunset

You say the women arrived before Sunset
that means they arrived on the Sabbath day
that is not possible

the Time from sundown Saturday to morning dawn sunday is still sunday the first day of the week

Also sundown and sunrise is always 6 pm and 6 am

Soldiers dont sleep at 6 pm it wouldnt be a plausible lie.



he resurected before dawn
so if you say dawn was saturday night then your theory tells me he rose on the Sabbath
no
Jesus wouldnt resurect on the Sabbath. He rested on the Sabbath.
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Sorry, but there is no sense to this.
 
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2Thewaters

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Mark says
When the Sabbath was OVER the women came just before DAWN

The Jewish time schedule is Evening first then morning
 
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john832

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2Thewaters said:
Mark says
When the Sabbath was OVER they came before DAWN

if Dawn was "sunset" then They came before that
meaning they would have come on the Sabbath

which contradicts the text
AFTER THE SABBATH WAS OVER

Why are you tying to have JEsus raise on Sabbath?
It didnt happen that way.
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Mar 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Mar 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
Mar 16:3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
Mar 16:4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
Mar 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
Mar 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

It was just before and around dawn, it wasn't light yet, when the women came to the tomb. The clear statements are that Christ was not there. He was not in the act of rising, He was already gone.

Of course He was, He was resurrected Saturday at sunset.
 
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Isdaniel

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2Thewaters said:
Mark says
When the Sabbath was OVER the women came just before DAWN

The Jewish time schedule is Evening first then morning
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how many mile could they wallk back then without breaking sabbath ?
 
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overcomer2

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Where does it say exactly at what time Jesus raised. Not when Mary arrived. but when Jesus specifically raised from the dead. The only thing I can see to go by is 3 days and 3 nights.
 
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Isdaniel

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2Thewaters said:
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Women arrived before morning Dawn on Sunday morning
Let us say 4 am Sunday morning
Jesus had already resurrected

therefore he resurrected on Sunday because the evening and the morning are the ... day.

Now lets look at your theory that dawn is the sunset

You say the women arrived before Sunset
that means they arrived on the Sabbath day
that is not possible

the Time from sundown Saturday to morning dawn sunday is still sunday the first day of the week

Also sundown and sunrise is always 6 pm and 6 am

Soldiers dont sleep at 6 pm it wouldnt be a plausible lie.



he resurected before dawn
so if you say dawn was saturday night then your theory tells me he rose on the Sabbath
no
Jesus wouldnt resurect on the Sabbath. He rested on the Sabbath.
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How many women came to the tomb ?

When did the women arrived ?

How many angels did the women see at the tomb ?

In what position were the angels seen by the women ?

Why so many differences in the amount of women , and agels and positions of the angels ?
 
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Isdaniel

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overcomer2 said:
Where does it say exactly at what time Jesus raised. Not when Mary arrived. but when Jesus specifically raised from the dead. The only thing I can see to go by is 3 days and 3 nights.
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matthew 28 states it
 
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2Thewaters

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No
The night of the first day had worn away slowly. The "darkest hour" just before daybreak, had come.
Christ was still a prisoner in his narrow tomb.
The great stone was in its place.
The Roman seal was unbroken
the guards were wathcing the tomb
There was a great earthquake
The sodiers witnessed the resurection
they fled to tell pilate
they were told while you slept the disciples stole him away
a sundown resurection is impossible for all those events to occur within a few minutes
 
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Isdaniel

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overcomer2 said:
Where does it say exactly at what time Jesus raised. Not when Mary arrived. but when Jesus specifically raised from the dead. The only thing I can see to go by is 3 days and 3 nights.
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[video=youtube;PpwAWHes1y0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PpwAWHes1y0[/video]
 
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Isdaniel

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2Thewaters said:
No
The night of the first day had worn away slowly. The "darkest hour" just before daybreak, had come.
Christ was still a prisoner in his narrow tomb.
The great stone was in its place.
The Roman seal was unbroken
the guards were wathcing the tomb
There was a great earthquake
The sodiers witnessed the resurection
they fled to tell pilate
they were told while you slept the disciples stole him away
a sundown resurection is impossible for all those events to occur within a few minutes
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Are you a sabbath keeper ?
 
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2Thewaters

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Early sunday morning earthquake around 4 or 5 am, with soldiers leaving and the ladies showing up is the right story.

When you invent a new story all the pieces do not fit.
 
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Isdaniel

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2Thewaters said:
Early sunday morning earthquake around 4 or 5 am, with soldiers leaving and the ladies showing up is the right story.

When you invent a new story all the pieces do not fit.
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[video=youtube;PpwAWHes1y0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PpwAWHes1y0[/video]
 
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2Thewaters

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All christians keep the Sabbath
Jesus did and I follow christ
Jesus was a Sabbath keeper and still is Jesus never changes


Another point is this

at Jesus' resurection many others were raised also that went into the city to proclaim Jesus resurection.
if this would have happened at sundaown the whole city would be in an uproar
and the ladies would not have waited till dawn

story doesnt fit.
 
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2Thewaters

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When Jesus rose at 4-5 am just before morning light, everything fits.
 
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Isdaniel

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2Thewaters said:
Early sunday morning earthquake around 4 or 5 am, with soldiers leaving and the ladies showing up is the right story.

When you invent a new story all the pieces do not fit.
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Luke 23:53-56

King James Version (KJV)

53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Did sabbath come or was it going towards the sabbath day ?
Do you know what is the greek word used here to mean draw on ?
 
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Isdaniel

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2Thewaters said:
All christians keep the Sabbath
Jesus did and I follow christ
Jesus was a Sabbath keeper and still is Jesus never changes


Another point is this

at Jesus' resurection many others were raised also that went into the city to proclaim Jesus resurection.
if this would have happened at sundaown the whole city would be in an uproar
and the ladies would not have waited till dawn

story doesnt fit.
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You should revisit this in matthew
 
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2Thewaters said:
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Women arrived before morning Dawn on Sunday morning
Let us say 4 am Sunday morning
Jesus had already resurrected

therefore he resurrected on Sunday because the evening and the morning are the ... day.

Now lets look at your theory that dawn is the sunset

You say the women arrived before Sunset
that means they arrived on the Sabbath day
that is not possible

the Time from sundown Saturday to morning dawn sunday is still sunday the first day of the week

Also sundown and sunrise is always 6 pm and 6 am

Soldiers dont sleep at 6 pm it wouldnt be a plausible lie.



he resurected before dawn
so if you say dawn was saturday night then your theory tells me he rose on the Sabbath
no
Jesus wouldnt resurect on the Sabbath. He rested on the Sabbath.
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The comment you made "Also sundown and sunrise is always 6 pm and 6 am" is very false. God created the nights and days and no matter where you live, the sunset and sunrise do not occur at exactly 6 pm or 6 am. This is the beauty of God's calendar, because He declares when the day is over by the setting of the sun. I believe the 6pm and 6 am is a Jewish man made tradition, made for convenience for man. I'll stick with knowing God declares when a day begins, which will seldom occur at 6 pm.

We Christians have learned many lies, inherited and passed down from our Gentile fathers. The time has come to put aside the extra biblical and return to Truths of God's Word.
 
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2Thewaters

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The holy spirit told me that this Sabbath evening resurection is not correct.

It is very hard when you realize the people you look up to are leading you astray.
Every christian must face this fact.
We are not special.
Every church has false doctrines, that they carefully hide and carefully keep out of all their Bible studies hoping you will not study your Bible and find them

But, I wondered, how come catholics and Baptists and these and that have to come out of their chruch errors and I never had to?
Because my church never talked about them.
I thought I had the only right church since we had no errors!

You know what kind of church that is when you have no errors?
Laodicea!
They are rich, increasd in goods, right in every doctrine and if everyone would just join our church we could all go to heaven!

What error! Jesus never taught this.
Even Jesus had to come out of his church! right?
Even his disciples had to come out!
The fact is when you get a conference of people to lead anything it will always be in error since the majority of any group are not real christians but time servers and VOTING is the way to infiltrate error upon error upon error

So don't feel bad. The people that taught you an evening reseurection at sundown do not have the holy spirit of truth
they have another spirit

Go to the word of God
get a free Bible program
like www theword.net
and read and click on every word to see what was changed what was hidden and what is truth
it took only five minutes
of Bible research for the holy spirit to bring to mind the points that blow this Sabbath evening resurection out of the water.
All praise to God.
now get up brother and come to the word of God


now go to Jesus
 
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