STATUTES , PRECEPTS , JUDGEMENTS, TESTOMONIES, ETC

[Elin]

The NT states otherwise:

". . .some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ,
that they might bring us into bondage." (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-14)

Which law is this God law or the ceremonila law because i stated what law this was in the earlier post

Ac 15 explains it:

"Some brothers came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching brothers: 'Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." (Ac 15:1)

"Then some of the believers who belonged to the part of the Pharisees stood up and said,
'The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses.' " (Ac 15:5)

"We have heard that some went out from us saying, 'You must be circumcised, and keep the law:'
to whom we gave no such commandment." (Ac 15:24)

 

[Isdaniel]

Ac 15 explains it:

"Some brothers came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching brothers: 'Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." (Ac 15:1)

"Then some of the believers who belonged to the part of the Pharisees stood up and said,
'The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses.' " (Ac 15:5)

"We have heard that some went out from us saying, 'You must be circumcised, and keep the law:'
to whom we gave no such commandment." (Ac 15:24)

Does it mentioned the ten commandments there ?

 

[Elin]

The NT states otherwise:

". . .some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ,
that they might bring us into bondage." (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-14)

The ten commandments are the law of liberty not bondage

• James 1:25But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
• James 2:12So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

So in your understanding, the word of God contradicts itself?

That's all the evidence anyone needs to know that their understanding is wrong.

The law that gives freedom is the gospel law; i.e., the royal law of love (Jas 2:8; Mt 22:37-40),
not the ceremonial law.

The NT word of God states that the ceremonial law was a yoke of bondage (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-4;
Ac 15:5, 24).

 

[Isdaniel]

So in your understanding, the word of God contradicts itself?

That's all the evidence anyone needs to know that their understanding is wrong.

The law that gives freedom is the gospel law; i.e., the royal law of love (Jas 2:8),
not the ceremonial law.

The NT word of God states that the ceremonial law was a yoke of bondage (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-4).

So james was saying you break one of the gospel law you break alll hmmmm the royal law is the ten commanments not the ceremonial law
the ceremonial law is the yoke of bondage not the ten commanments
there is nothing as gospel law

 

[Isdaniel]

So in your understanding, the word of God contradicts itself?

That's all the evidence anyone needs to know that their understanding is wrong.

The law that gives freedom is the gospel law; i.e., the royal law of love (Jas 2:8),
not the ceremonial law.

The NT word of God states that the ceremonial law was a yoke of bondage (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-4;
Ac 15:5, 24).

James 2:8-12

King James Version (KJV)

8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.



Sound like the ten commandments to me hmmmmmm not no gospel law

 

[Elin]

what was paul talking about let see ok

Galatians 2 King James Version (KJV)

2 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

In Jesus we no longer have to circumcise the forskin that is what Paul was talking about

There's more to the story. . .check out Ac 15:1, 5, 24.

 

[Isdaniel]

There's more to the story. . .check out Ac 15:1, 5, 24.

Do you believe the sabbath is to be kept ? Why or Why Not ?

 

[Elin]

Actually, it is not the only thing written with the "finger of God."

Compare parallel verses of Mt 12:28 and Lk 11:20 to see that
the "finger of God" is the Holy Spirit.

It is a foreshadow of the Holy Spirit
writing the law on hearts instead of stone in the New Covenant (Jer 31:33),

as the ceremonial laws were a foreshadow of the Son.

What are you saying its the same law the ten coomanments written in our hears in the new

Agreed. . .it's what I have been saying from the beginning. . .with this huge difference:

there is no curse attached to the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-39).

The Mosaic law is a single unit, you break one, you break 'em all,
nor can you cannot separate the law from its curse.

Therefore, the law of Christ is not the law of Moses, because it has no curse attached,
as does the law of Moses.

 

[Elin]

God wrote the law twice because Moses destroyed the first ones.

And actually, it is not the only thing written with the "finger of God."

Compare parallel verses of Mt 12:28 and Lk 11:20 to see that
the "finger of God" is the Holy Spirit.

It is a foreshadow of the Holy Spirit
writing the law on hearts instead of stone in the New Covenant (Jer 31:33),

as the ceremonial laws were a foreshadow of the Son.

2 Corinthians 3 King James Version (KJV)

3 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

Metaphorically speaking yes but the Holy Spirit is not the finger of God literaly

The bible talks about the right hand of God is Jesus but which spiritually speaking but God does have aliteral right hand

Where do we find in Scripture that Jesus is the right hand of God?

 

[Isdaniel]

Where do we find in Scripture that Jesus is the right hand of God?

What does the right hand here means

[h=3]Psalm 118:16[/h]King James Version (KJV)

16 The right hand of the Lord is exalted: the right hand of the Lord doeth valiantly

 

[Isdaniel]

Where do we find in Scripture that Jesus is the right hand of God?

Where in the bible say the Godhead is a trinity ?

 

[Elin]

Actually, it is not the only thing written with the finger of God."

Compare parallel verses of Mt 12:28 and Lk 11:20 to see that the "finger of God" is the Holy Spirit.

It is a foreshadow of
the Holy Spirit writing the law on our hearts instead of stone in the New Covenant(Jer 31:33),

as the ceremonial laws were a foreshadow of the Son.

Obfuscation. The only account ever given in the entire Bible of God writing something with His finger is the writing of the Ten Commandments in stone.

Actually, it's a matter of apprehending.

One man's apprehension is another man's obfuscation.

 

[Isdaniel]

Agreed. . .it's what I have been saying from the beginning. . .with this huge difference:

there is no curse attached to the law of Christ (Mt 22:37-39).

The Mosaic law is a single unit, you break one, you break 'em all,
nor can you cannot separate the law from its curse.

Therefore, the law of Christ is not the law of Moses, because it has no curse attached,
as does the law of Moses.

Are you saying the ten commandments is part of Moses law ? and has a curse atached to it that is the ten commandments

 

[Elin]

Circumcisions and going back to animal sacrifices were the issues of bondage
Acts 15

King James Version (KJV)

1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Not the ten commandments but circumcision which had nothing to do with the ten commandments

The Mosaic law (v.5) includes the Ten Commandments.

 

[Isdaniel]

The Mosaic law (v.5) includes the Ten Commandments.

You are wrong then you should disobey your parents

 

[Elin]

Ac 15 explains it:

"Some brothers came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching brothers: 'Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." (Ac 15:1)

"Then some of the believers who belonged to the part of the Pharisees stood up and said,
'The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to obey the law of Moses.' " (Ac 15:5)

"We have heard that some went out from us saying, 'You must be circumcised, and keep the law:'

Does it mentioned the ten commandments there ?

The Mosaic law includes the Ten Commandments.

 

[Isdaniel]

[h=3]
The ten commandments are perfect

Psalm 19:7-11[/h]King James Version (KJV)

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of theLord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.



Moses law was not perfect

[h=3]Hebrews 7:19[/h]King James Version (KJV)

19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

 

[Isdaniel]

The Mosaic law includes the Ten Commandments.

please shew me from the bible and why the book was placed at the side of the ark and not inside the ark

 

[Isdaniel]

THE CEREMONIAL LAW POINTED TO JESUS

Is “the law of commandments contained in ordinances” (Ephesians 2:15), “a shadow of good things to come” (Hebrews 10:1), and was disannulled “because of its weakness and unprofitableness” (Hebrews 7:18).

WHICH OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS POITED TO JESUS SACRFICE ?

i am not shouting ok

 

[zone]

The NT states otherwise:

". . .some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ,
that they might bring us into bondage." (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-14)

http://www.lifeassuranceministries.com/pdf files/SABBATARIANISM RE-EXAMINED.pdf