For Sabbath keepers, How does obedience to the Sabbath affect your Salvation?

[alexis]

You have a long way to go kiddo
There are much pleasures and worries of this world ahead of you to keep you from obeying this commandments and the other 9. Any "decent" carrier/job requires one to break one or more. Yes, the noises around you too.
Hold on to His grace and guidance and do not look left or right - that's all I can say.
Take care!

Deffinately, if God's will I believe my race has just begun.
Keeping the Sabbath by attending church is already a great challenge. My dad and stepmom do not believe and think my faith in God is foolish. This combined with living in a very remote secluded place make attending church at times very difficult. When I absolutely can't get there, I try to share Bible lessons with my little brothers. My mom is oposed to them hearing God's word so I often get in trouble and just spend my day in prayer and song for God alone accept for Christ in my room.

At school I am ridiculed for speaking of Christ and outcast for not doing sinful things. All this is simply not a big deal! For Jesus loves me and gives me strength. Part of the out casting in fairness is do to my extremely bad stutter. I tend to speak very little because it is difficult to express much and can lead to teasing.

Will I face many more trials as you mentioned? Yes, I think so.. Life gets harder not easier, or so it appears. Yet each day that I have grown in understanding Christ it has become easier. His love shrouds me from harm. As for career, I hope to teach music! God has blessed me musically even with the gift of song. By His grace when I sing my stutter is gone. Of course plans and dreams may not come... I may have to take a job that requires me to work on God's Holy Day. Thankfully He loves me and I believe will hear my prayers and see to me being free to worship Him.

Sin is everywhere... Temptation for me is overcome by focus on God... When David had God focus giants fell, when David did not have, he stumbled and fell. Yet God always picked him up. Of course I am nothing in comparison to King David. But may God bless me with such grace, mercy and never ending love.

Thank you for this message and I will each day remember as you suggested and do my best to "hold on to His grace and guidance and not look left or right" I just put this in my journal... It means a lot to me. Thank you for the love and well wishing.

Love you,
lexi

 

[Isdaniel]

hmmmm you are such a troll hmmmmm

yip thank alot but you will and never answer that question

Is it lawful what you are doing promoting Sunday hmmmm

You will say yes

Is it lawful to do good or evil on the sabbath hmmmm i wonder what Jesus meant


hmmm It is lawful to do good on the sabbath not evil

yip you got a trolll K.O

 

[zone]

How about this you tell me i will wait and see how you twist this one thou word twister

Matthew 20:15Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

um...there's not much 7th day sabbath instruction for gentiles there.
we know the jews kept it...Jerusalem and the temple were still standing.

for about 40 more years.

where are the NT instructions please?
somebody had to be teaching the gentiles...did the corinthians break every law in the world except the sabbath?

 

[WomanLovesTX]

Well gosh golly gee. It says that right there in the bible. Shazam!

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of the sabbath days, which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17
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I would like to do a thorough discussion on these verses creating a new thread. I believe what we will find is that Paul is not teaching against God’s feast days and Sabbath. Instead, he is teaching that we should observe them in our faith, just as God said. I believe that we will discover that Paul is in fact not only NOT teaching against the Law of God, but that He is making a case for observing ALL of the Law of God.

 

[Karraster]

Please tell me why you dont keep the other 9 also , were not all given at once ? Is not the other nine part of Moses law also ?

This is such a thought provoking question!

 

[zone]

this is what you asked for ok

here we go and that is just one in the Nt

Matthew 20:15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

Mark 3:4And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

hmm....any apostolic doctrine on that?
because here's what Jesus commanded THEM to do:

Matthew 28
8And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."


so did they forget?
are we missing that critical epistle?

or did they do exactly as He commanded?

because they didn't teach sabbath-keeping - anywhere.
such an important thing, yet He either commanded it and they disobeyed...or it is not a NT commandment.

....

here's what Paul ("This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel." - Acts 9:15) said though:

Romans 14
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.

wait...shouldn't he have been saying the opposite?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Deffinately, if God's will I believe my race has just begun.
Keeping the Sabbath by attending church is already a great challenge. My dad and stepmom do not believe and think my faith in God is foolish. This combined with living in a very remote secluded place make attending church at times very difficult. When I absolutely can't get there, I try to share Bible lessons with my little brothers. My mom is oposed to them hearing God's word so I often get in trouble and just spend my day in prayer and song for God alone accept for Christ in my room.

Alexis, don't let people be stumbling blocks to you by letting them lay guilt trips on you about the sabbath. GOD is interested in a love out of a pure heart; fellowship with others when you can.

Now the end of the commandment is love out of a pure heart, a good conscience, and sincere faith.

From which some having deviated have turned aside unto vain talk desiring to be teachers of the law; not understanding what they say, nor what they affirm [as true]. 1 Timothy 1:5-7​

 

[zone]

yip thank alot but you will and never answer that question

Is it lawful what you are doing promoting Sunday hmmmm

You will say yes

Is it lawful to do good or evil on the sabbath hmmmm i wonder what Jesus meant


hmmm It is lawful to do good on the sabbath not evil

yip you got a trolll K.O

is there an 8th day in God's week?
or do we then go to the first day of the week?

did the ancient israelites even name their days of the week?
did they name their months?

do you think God hates the first day of the week?

 

[SarahM777]

Please tell me why you dont keep the other 9 also , were not all given at once ? Is not the other nine part of Moses law also ?

HMMM Seems to me you keep leaving out the rest of the chapter where Moses continues on

Deuteronomy 5

5 Moses summoned all Israel and said:
Hear, Israel, the decrees and laws I declare in your hearing today. Learn them and be sure to follow them. 2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. 3 It was not with our ancestors[a] that the Lord made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today. 4 The Lord spoke to you face to face out of the fireon the mountain. 5 (At that time I stood between the Lord and you to declare to you the word of the Lord, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.) And he said:
6 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
7 “You shall have no other gods before[b] me.
8 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 10 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
11 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for theLord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
12 “Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as the Lord your God has commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is a sabbath to theLord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant,nor your ox, your donkey or any of your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns, so that your male and female servants may rest, as you do. 15 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm.Therefore the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.
16 “Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live long and that it may go well with you in the land the Lord your God is giving you.
17 “You shall not murder.
18 “You shall not commit adultery.
19 “You shall not steal.
20 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
21 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife. You shall not set your desire on your neighbor’s house or land, his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

22 These are the commandments the Lord proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.
23 When you heard the voice out of the darkness, while the mountain was ablaze with fire, all the leaders of your tribes and your elders came to me. 24 And you said, “The Lord our God has shown us his glory and his majesty, and we have heard his voice from the fire. Today we have seen that a person can live even if God speaks with them. 25 But now, why should we die? This great fire will consume us, and we will die if we hear the voice of the Lord our God any longer. 26 For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived? 27 Go near and listen to all that the Lord our God says. Then tell us whatever the Lord our God tells you. We will listen and obey.”
28 The Lord heard you when you spoke to me, and the Lord said to me, “I have heard what this people said to you. Everything they said was good. 29 Oh, that their hearts would be inclined to fear me and keep all my commands always, so that it might go well with them and their children forever!
30 “Go, tell them to return to their tents. 31 But you stay here with me so that I may give you all the commands, decrees and laws you are to teach them to follow in the land I am giving them to possess.”
32 So be careful to do what the Lord your God has commanded you;do not turn aside to the right or to the left. 33 Walk in obedience to all that the Lord your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess.

You want to leave verses 30-31 where GOD TELLS MOSES HE WILL GIVE Moses ALL THE COMMANDS,DECREES AND LAWS THEY ARE TO BE TAUGHT.

 

[chubbena]

I'm still waiting two months later for some answer from you, I don't know why you ran away from a thread about the Sabbath and here you are pretending the last one never happened?





Why didn't you answer those basic questions about the Sabbath? Aren't you from God, Chubbena?


2 Tim 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Sorry I must have overlooked your post but I believe I have more than answered that in answering others.
Obeying His law does not imply denying His sacrifice on the cross. One died with Christ is a new man who would obey His law from the heart. The written law and His teachings verify whether one actually died with Him.
By the way, why using those unfriendly smilies? Why using such avatar?

 

[SarahM777]

is there an 8th day in God's week?
or do we then go to the first day of the week?

did the ancient israelites even name their days of the week?
did they name their months?

do you think God hates the first day of the week?

But,but,but Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week. He showed Himself to be alive on the first day of the week.

 

[jahsoul]

Romans 14

This chapter can end this and the vegetarian thread..lol

 

[SarahM777]

This chapter can end this and the vegetarian thread..lol

It should if some would actually read and understand what it says.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

This chapter can end this and the vegetarian thread..lol

Alas, but we have unbelievers in our midst...

 

[zone]

But,but,but Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week. He showed Himself to be alive on the first day of the week.

well, some will argue that, too

God did marvelous things on the first day of the week!
AMEN

 

[SarahM777]

well, some will argue that, too

God did marvelous things on the first day of the week!
AMEN

Seems to me I also remember God created light on Sunday.

 

[zone]

Seems to me I also remember God created light on Sunday.

John 20:19
It was the evening of the first day of the week, and the doors of the house where the disciples had met were locked because they were afraid of the Jewish leaders. Jesus came and stood among them. He told them, "Peace be with you."

John 20:26
A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!"

 

[Praus]

Sorry I must have overlooked your post but I believe I have more than answered that in answering others.
Obeying His law does not imply denying His sacrifice on the cross. One died with Christ is a new man who would obey His law from the heart. The written law and His teachings verify whether one actually died with Him.

That's evading a very specific and very important question.

Should a Christian rest on the sabbath or work as Jesus Christ instructed them to in Luke 9:23?

By the way, why using those unfriendly smilies?

"Unfriendly smile" (frown): vs. Question:

Why using such avatar?

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[chubbena]

Deffinately, if God's will I believe my race has just begun.
Keeping the Sabbath by attending church is already a great challenge. My dad and stepmom do not believe and think my faith in God is foolish. This combined with living in a very remote secluded place make attending church at times very difficult. When I absolutely can't get there, I try to share Bible lessons with my little brothers. My mom is oposed to them hearing God's word so I often get in trouble and just spend my day in prayer and song for God alone accept for Christ in my room.

At school I am ridiculed for speaking of Christ and outcast for not doing sinful things. All this is simply not a big deal! For Jesus loves me and gives me strength. Part of the out casting in fairness is do to my extremely bad stutter. I tend to speak very little because it is difficult to express much and can lead to teasing.

Will I face many more trials as you mentioned? Yes, I think so.. Life gets harder not easier, or so it appears. Yet each day that I have grown in understanding Christ it has become easier. His love shrouds me from harm. As for career, I hope to teach music! God has blessed me musically even with the gift of song. By His grace when I sing my stutter is gone. Of course plans and dreams may not come... I may have to take a job that requires me to work on God's Holy Day. Thankfully He loves me and I believe will hear my prayers and see to me being free to worship Him.

Sin is everywhere... Temptation for me is overcome by focus on God... When David had God focus giants fell, when David did not have, he stumbled and fell. Yet God always picked him up. Of course I am nothing in comparison to King David. But may God bless me with such grace, mercy and never ending love.

Thank you for this message and I will each day remember as you suggested and do my best to "hold on to His grace and guidance and not look left or right" I just put this in my journal... It means a lot to me. Thank you for the love and well wishing.

Love you,
lexi

Keeping Sabbath does not necessarily mean going to the church. Sometimes it's better being alone so His voice could be heard.
Our faith could make us enemies to our families, friends and even religious people but as long as we have Him our friend that's alright - Our Father always provides a way out.
Hey Moses and Paul were not eloquent either but they didn't do that bad, did they? Working on Sabbath does not necessarily mean breaking it if it's to serve and to protect in His way. There are many examples in the Bible but I guess you know.
I've got a lot to learn from you kiddo.

 

[chubbena]

That's evading a very specific and very important question. Should a Christian rest on the sabbath or work as Jesus Christ instructed them to in Luke 9:23?

It's not for me to say a Christian should this or that but for myself I rest, study the bible, chat with fellow Christians and do good if circumstance arises.
Does Luke 9:23 has anything to do with working on Sabbath?

"Unfriendly smile" (frown): vs. Question:

Time for reading glasses - I thought I saw hand on forehead smilies.

"A secret report within the Guild. Four planets have come to our attention ... regarding a plot which could jeopardize spice production. ... Send a third stage Guild Navigator to Kaitain to demand details from the Emperor. The spice must flow..."

​ -> EON THE SPICE MUST FLOW - YouTube

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