Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

[homwardbound]

If the desire can be misleading then why are we condemned for following what we are led to believe is a right desire?
Did not God ALLOW the desire to be there?

Okay, to show the difference in flesh and the Spirit of God
Today that is what is at war is selfish flesh not caring for their neighbor unless their neighbor agrees with them
Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

That is the Battle and is what God is pissed about, read it in about Noah. God was not happy about how we took each other and harmed one another.
Now the next thing you said is God allowed this.
What God allowed and still allows is free will choice, as did with Adam and Eve. They made the choice to eat of that tree that brought flesh aware selfishness to them.
And God not being a liar stood to what he said would happen if they ate from that tree, they would die. And die they did along with all mankind born after them.
So man after eating from that tree of death is born in the flesh dead to the Spirit of God and are in need of new life in the Spirit of God.
Today this new life in the Spirit of God is offered as a gift from God through Son's death, burial, resurrection and ascension to give us new life in the Spirit not the flesh, even though one's flesh is still alive, just not by flesh ruling it anymore, but by God's Spirit if one makes that choice to trust God to do this for them and thus reckon:
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God's love is unfathomable and once God reveals this to you and it starts to become fathomable then God ahs called you, yet you have free choice to refuse this love
And that is all he left is for us to either believe or not. too simple
so by this we are freed to love as God does in 1 cor. 13:4-13
And the way is not to get out one's walking tall baseball bat and bash others, rather love God's way to all

 

[homwardbound]

Originally Posted by Kerry

God will never accept homosexuallity. It is the same as satan worship. Homosexuality was instituted by satan as plan to to stop the Jesus from being born. Understand.



CRAZY

However interesting theory but satan failed, Jesus was born. So why is there still homosexuality? Is Satan unable to stop it?

Satan is today defeated, flesh is not, the flesh of mankind, and God who is Merciful, knows that since we are born after the similitude of Adam and Eve are born to sin and not be perfect.
So by God's Mercy he sent Son to be our redemption unto perfection to be born again not of flesh of the Spirit of God and that is received at the resurrected Christ in the Spirit not the flesh.

 

[doseofreality]

Homosexual desires only arise in sinners with warped minds.

If you experience homosexual desires, it is because your mind is not tuned to God.

Homosexual desires are not put in a person to be followed. They are put there as a warning from God to say: "Hey, you're not following the truth or living a holy life. Do something about it before I pour out even worse wrath upon you."


In effect, homosexual desire is the first sign of demonic possession. It should be seen as a malady.

If your head hurts, you don't cut it off. You seek a remedy. Same principle.

Aren't we all sinners with warped minds....thats why Jesus came to Earth to die and atone for our sin.

Homosexual desires are caused by chemicals in the brain which release pheramones when looking at someone of same gender , this is fundamentally different than a straight person having perverted desires to have sex with someone of same gender.

homosexual desire is first sign of demonic possession...really? can you please provide any evidence supporting that claim?
many people are homosexual their whole lives, are all of them possessed by demons?

 

[Gjolll]

Aren't we all sinners with warped minds....thats why Jesus came to Earth to die and atone for our sin.

Homosexual desires are caused by chemicals in the brain which release pheramones when looking at someone of same gender , this is fundamentally different than a straight person having perverted desires to have sex with someone of same gender.

homosexual desire is first sign of demonic possession...really? can you please provide any evidence supporting that claim?
many people are homosexual their whole lives, are all of them possessed by demons?

Don't pay any attention to the biological garbage. Biological changes may follow indulgence in sin of all types, even if only in the mind. Sexual immorality is always associated in the bible with demonic possession. That's why divorce is permitted for sexual immorality.


Mat 12:43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”

Mar 16:9 "Mary Magdalene,out of whom he had driven seven demons."

Mat 19:9 "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

 

[LovelyU]

All judgement will be fair and just. It doesn't matter if WE think it is accepted or not, how WE judge someone, wether according to the Bible verses we read or to our own minds is just that, MAN judging MAN. You can believe whatever you wish, but all judgement will be fair and just and if the Lord wishes to score against the sexual preference of someone, don't you think what other acts they've done would come into consideration too and I know a lot of good homosexual people who's only act of sin is loving someone of the same sex. Have we not all sinned? Are we not sinners? Would you be happy in Gods house if you were seated next to someone who is homosexual should the Lord see him/her worthy? If he/she was your brother/sister in the heavens? Because it isn't your choice so get used to the idea that God can, and may just seat someone who is attracted to the same sex next to you. It's God who will have the only verdict and not for our worry so why should we discriminate if no harm is done and all else is good.

Good day

 

[sweetchristiangirl]

God does not accept homosexuality but He does accept the person. He wants them to have a free will to choose Him. His desire is for all of us whom He predestined to choose Him

 

[sweetchristiangirl]

yeah He may seat you next to a homosexual but hopefully that person would get saved before he or she left the house of God

 

[just-me]

All judgement will be fair and just. It doesn't matter if WE think it is accepted or not, how WE judge someone, wether according to the Bible verses we read or to our own minds is just that, MAN judging MAN. You can believe whatever you wish, but all judgement will be fair and just and if the Lord wishes to score against the sexual preference of someone, don't you think what other acts they've done would come into consideration too and I know a lot of good homosexual people who's only act of sin is loving someone of the same sex. Have we not all sinned? Are we not sinners? Would you be happy in Gods house if you were seated next to someone who is homosexual should the Lord see him/her worthy? If he/she was your brother/sister in the heavens? Because it isn't your choice so get used to the idea that God can, and may just seat someone who is attracted to the same sex next to you. It's God who will have the only verdict and not for our worry so why should we discriminate if no harm is done and all else is good.

Good day

Hebrews 4:11-12 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Ezekiel 33:3-6 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

 

[LovelyU]

Hebrews 4:11-12 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Ezekiel 33:3-6 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

We have no idea who will hear the trumpet because this is to Gods discretion and we don't know how deep the spirituality or strong the faith of someone will be that day. You can labour all your life to tell of the Lord and of his word, but who are you trying to reach when there is discrimination against people? so you are picking and choosing and casting out an ear because of what is read from the Bible before any of these people are able to find God and those who may need the Lords word most are fought against by it. Do you think this is an intention of the Bible? To help you choose who to discriminate against? Wouldn't it be better to let people come to know God from not a judgemental mouth? Because you never know who God has chosen and maybe there could be some saved even though they have sinned but who would even learn of God from someone with such a bitter perspective and lack of love towards man kind.

 

[cjordan38]

No homosexuality is unacceptable. Its a sin not to mention its a spirit. Sin is trying to turn people into homosexuals to stop production of life. God destroyed two major cities and the cities around them due to their immoral acts including beastality and homosexuality. Remember the men wanted to "know" the angels who visited Lot. Not to mention its an abomination against God

 

[LovelyU]

So you cast them out, pronounce them dead in God and say they are banished from HIS Kingdom before they even come to know the Lord! Who then would want to come to know this Lord you speak for? What kind of abomination is that?

 

[GISMYS]

GOD ACCEPTS AND FORGIVES "ALL" THAT CONFESS AND REPENT OF SIN.

 

[GISMYS]

THE BIG PROBLEM WITH THOSE LIVING IN THE SICK ABOMINATION OF SEXUAL PERVERSION IS THEY DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT THEIR SIN IS SIN AND THEN THEY COMPOUND THEIR SIN BY TRYING TO DENY THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD THAT CONDEMNS SEXUAL PERVERSION!

 

[LovelyU]

How are they to know what sin is sin, and righteousness, if people keep them from the Lord with their discrimination towards them? What truth do they then have of Gods word? If all these people who follow God are against them, why would they seek this God? Why would they turn to someone made out to hate them and ask him to come into their lives? how then can God teach them righteousness so they may ask his forgiveness when "his" people so quickly take away HIS introduction

 

[GISMYS]

DOES A THIEF,MURDERER,FORNICATOR OR PERSON LIVING IN THE SICK ABOMINATION OF SEXUAL PERVERSION KNOW THAT HIS SIN IS SIN??? OR DO THEY TRY TO LIE TO THEMSELF AND TRY TO DENY THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD? ONLY THE PERVERSION LOVER DOES THAT.

 

[LovelyU]

DOES A THIEF,MURDERER,FORNICATOR OR PERSON LIVING IN THE SICK ABOMINATION OF SEXUAL PERVERSION KNOW THAT HIS SIN IS SIN??? OR DO THEY TRY TO LIE TO THEMSELF AND TRY TO DENY THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD? ONLY THE PERVERSION LOVER DOES THAT.

Is a Thief, Murderer or Fornicator discriminated against BEFORE their sinful acts?? Are they labelled any of these BEFORE their actions? Are they welcomed as "people" to churches and gatherings BEFORE they have acted as any of the above? Are they invited to Gods word BEFORE they are these things? because BEFORE they steal, murder or fornicate they are classed as a normal accepted person. Is a homosexual classed as a normal accepted person if they are attracted to the opposite sex before they even know of much of the world? No, they are discriminated against BEFORE they even have a chance to acknowledge that there is a God. All of these people can repent anyway, so why discriminate and push away because like you said GOD ACCEPTS AND FORGIVES "ALL" THAT CONFESS AND REPENT OF SIN. It is man's ego that keeps him from drawing people to God to repent and become one with the Holly Spirit, we are all able to do this, what do you think the discrimination is doing? It is preventing people from reaching God and the fault is on those who put and continue to put this wall up for others.

 

[Gjolll]

yeah He may seat you next to a homosexual but hopefully that person would get saved before he or she left the house of God

Most homosexuals who go to church do not go there because they feel they need to repent. They do it because they think the "church" ought to "include" them just as they are. Moreover, if they call themselves a "brother" or "sister" or "Christian" they must be summarily excluded and thrown out
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1Cr 5:11
"But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sisterfn but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people."
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[4enlightment]

THE BIG PROBLEM WITH THOSE LIVING IN THE SICK ABOMINATION OF SEXUAL PERVERSION IS THEY DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT THEIR SIN IS SIN AND THEN THEY COMPOUND THEIR SIN BY TRYING TO DENY THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD THAT CONDEMNS SEXUAL PERVERSION!

Roman 7:4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Roman 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Matthew 3:10The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

So if your actions or teachings that comes from the heart doesn't produces any of these, you'll be cast away from.

Galatians 5:22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,

Whom ever lives by the flesh, didn't condemned the flesh as Jesus has did, and so they shall be judge by the physical aspect of the Laws. But I'm going to tell you this, according to the physical, if you even just merely lust after a the opposite sex, just one time; you have had violated the all Law because there is no sin is greater than the other, and which you'll be not shown any mercy at all, just as the ones that had lived by the laws. But since the understanding part of God, know that the flesh is weak toward temptation, is now granting mercy on those that are willing to do what is right from the heart.

 

[cjordan38]

Everybody who sins knows it. The minute as a child you know right from wrong and you choose to do wrong you are guilty of sinning. People choose to sin thats why Jesus came to give them the choice of eternal life.

 

[4enlightment]

Everybody who sins knows it. The minute as a child you know right from wrong and you choose to do wrong you are guilty of sinning. People choose to sin thats why Jesus came to give them the choice of eternal life.

Well some of us believe that they are doing right, but aren't. When someone that is born into a capitalism, they will not know that they are sinning, because the love of money is the root of evil. But since they are born into it, they'll here all sort of false doctrine of it, and become accustom to it, and which that will make them blind from the truth.

John 9:41Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
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