There Are Many Scriptures That Disprove The Trinity

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john832

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:rolleyes: You are spirituality drunk, sir. ^_^

The three persons of the Trinity are equal because they are all made up of the same body, they are all the same God.
Don't take the word 'persons' literally. Of course God is not merely a 'person'; <--that is another term for 'part'. God is made up of three parts.

Why would God be made up of three parts? Hell if I know. I'm not God, I'm not the virgin Mary, I'm certainly not as intelligent as even the lowliest angel, (none of the angels are lowly, in fact. ^_^) but whatever the true implications behind the Trinity is, we do know for a fact that it is real and mentioned in the bible.
[HR][/HR]Enjoy these bible verses, Mr. Comet, son of the false prophet 'Mr. Meteor'.:rolleyes:
Matthew 3:17 A voice from from Heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 28:19 Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy spirit.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.

Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work where unto I have called them.

(2) Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.

Peace be with you.
Interesting, but who died? And who is in subjection to whom?

1Co 15:27 For "HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIS FEET." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted.
1Co 15:28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

And who is greater than whom?

Joh 14:28 You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I.
 

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The article below should take approximately 5 or so minutes to absorb.
If Jesus is God, then why did He say the Father was greater than He? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry
Merry Christmas!
Christ, the Word, is God, but not the same person as the Father. The Father is supreme. Christ is under Him, in subjection if you will, but not in the sense we use it. He does as His Father tells Him ans shows Him. I am not saying that Christ is not God, He is the LORD, the Eternal, who made heaven and earth. Who has always existed and always will. He is the One who created Adam and spoke to Moses. He is the One who will return to rule and reign on the earth as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

The truth is that God is a family...

Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

And God's purpose is to add children to His family. God is not three in one oil, a closed trinity, He is a family that is going to expand by billions.
 
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:rolleyes: You are spirituality drunk, sir. ^_^
Thank you for revikling me. That is what they did to Christ. They who reviled were of Satan. Who do you belong to? No guesses.

The three persons of the Trinity are equal because they are all made up of the same body, they are all the same God.
Completely wrong way of perceiving the issue. You are giving a false philosophical doctrine that is not found in the bible.

To humans, divinity is divinity, and ONLY in that sense, is Christ is equal to God, because he is divinity. Under your analogy, angels would be equal to God because they too represent divinity.

But to those who speak of the relation of Christ to the Father, the Father is always greater because Christ is the Father's image.
 
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[SUP]30[/SUP]I and my Father are one. (St. John 10,30).
 

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[SUP]30[/SUP]I and my Father are one. (St. John 10,30).
Yep and Adam and Eve were one flesh...

Gen 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

That make them a trinity?
 
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[SUP]30[/SUP]I and my Father are one. (St. John 10,30).
Eph 4:6 "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."

Deny the truth of the above, and you might as well call yourself a pagan.
 
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Yep and Adam and Eve were one flesh...

Gen 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

That make them a trinity?
The unity between Jesus Christ and the Father is understood by the eastern orthodox church as unity in essence, in being, not one in number. We believe they are three persons (hypostasis) united in one being and one of most clear revelation of the Saint Trinity is at Jesus Christ baptism.
 
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Thank you for revikling me. That is what they did to Christ. They who reviled were of Satan. Who do you belong to? No guesses.


Completely wrong way of perceiving the issue. You are giving a false philosophical doctrine that is not found in the bible.

To humans, divinity is divinity, and ONLY in that sense, is Christ is equal to God, because he is divinity. Under your analogy, angels would be equal to God because they too represent divinity.

But to those who speak of the relation of Christ to the Father, the Father is always greater because Christ is the Father's image.

The angels do not share the same essence as God, they were created by God. But, Jesus Christ is begotten by God, not created, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from God -the Father.
 

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The unity between Jesus Christ and the Father is understood by the eastern orthodox church as unity in essence, in being, not one in number. We believe they are three persons (hypostasis) united in one being and one of most clear revelation of the Saint Trinity is at Jesus Christ baptism.
Sorry, but I do not recognize the authority of the Eastern Orthodox Church above the Bible.
 

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The angels do not share the same essence as God, they were created by God. But, Jesus Christ is begotten by God, not created, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from God -the Father.
Jesus Christ IS God...

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 
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Jesus Christ IS God...

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Here, I agree with you. Jesus Christ is God, He is the Logos incarnated.
 
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Thank you for revikling me. That is what they did to Christ. They who reviled were of Satan. Who do you belong to? No guesses.
Eph 4:6 "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."
Deny the truth of the above, and you might as well call yourself a pagan.
All hail the almighty Baal! Baal is who I belong to, and that is why I believe in the existence of the divine Trinity: Because I am not a true Christian! I am a pagan and I am proud of it!!!

Gjoll, since my cover is now utterly blown, I shall use verses from my own bible. May Baal protect me as I wage war against this entire website's foolish community, who are uneducated and unaware about the 1,721 true Gods and Goddess's who govern this wretched world!

Acts 2:38 "And Pete..Pepper..whatever said to them, "All of you; repent and be baptized in the name Of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy spirit. <-- Everything here is FALSE!

John 14:15-17 "If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the father, and he will give you another helper to be with you forever. Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him or knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you."

^DON'T say this bible verse seriously, for the Holy Spirit is obviously a false teaching!

I MUST revile you because you are exposing meeeeeee!

Completely wrong way of perceiving the issue. You are giving a false philosophical doctrine that is not found in the bible.
THAT is because I am a false prophet from Satan! What else could I possibly be?

To humans, divinity is divinity, and ONLY in that sense, is Christ is equal to God, because he is divinity. Under your analogy, angels would be equal to God because they too represent divinity.
But to those who speak of the relation of Christ to the Father, the Father is always greater because Christ is the Father's image.
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The unity between Jesus Christ and the Father is understood by the eastern orthodox church as unity in essence, in being, not one in number. We believe they are three persons (hypostasis) united in one being and one of most clear revelation of the Saint Trinity is at Jesus Christ baptism.
^Marry me!
 
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Clearly the creator of this blog is not one with God...Beware of the false trachers.
 
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Clearly the creator of this blog is not one with God...Beware of the false trachers.
Thread, not blog. And I'm sorry for resurfacing this thread. I love arguing.
 
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Any one that reads for himself, has no problem with the trinity. It just those who listen to some guy and repeat what they say.
 

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Jesus is Jehovah God of the Old Testament.

Isa 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

who was this voice crying in the wilderness?

Mat 3:1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
Mat 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Answer: John the Baptist

and who did he make way for?

Joh 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Joh 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Answer: Jesus.

Thus the voice was John and the Jehovah was Jesus.

There are many scriptures that prove Jesus was the Lord of the Old Testament.
 
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There are many scriptures that prove Jesus was the Lord of the Old Testament.
What is important to remember is the fact of his revelation, and that the Word was previously hidden:

Rom 16:25 ....the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past,

To attribute any act prior to the incarnation of the Word, to the Word to the exclusion of the Father, is pure gnosticism and heretical. For two are one, and nothing that the Word did was apart from the Father. So to talk about the Word being the Lord of the Old Testament is ridiculous.
 
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What is important to remember is the fact of his revelation, and that the Word was previously hidden:

Rom 16:25 ....the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past,

To attribute any act prior to the incarnation of the Word, to the Word to the exclusion of the Father, is pure gnosticism and heretical. For two are one, and nothing that the Word did was apart from the Father. So to talk about the Word being the Lord of the Old Testament is ridiculous.
Good work on not addressing the texts given.