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That's why the gospel is preached Tintin.
Just because we don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true. Nobody is going to accept Christ naturally. That deceiving cloak of sin has to be removed first in order to see Christ's redemptive work. Does God do this for everybody? Clearly not otherwise everybody would be redeemed and the world would be a much better place. I've seen that cloak being removed and I'm sure you have too. If it wasn't do you think they would come to Christ by themselves? You could preach, try and convince, bible bash the rest of their days and they won't come to Christ.
I furthermore believe that predestination is part of Gods redemptive plan. Though it seems mysterious we will understand one day. It's the same as the mystery of lawlessness. Why did satan sin when he was already perfect and how did he know about it? I don't think adam knew about sin either. All he knew was he'd die if he ate that fruit and that he did. The first sin was doubting Gods word or instruction even before the apple was eaten.
Just because we don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true. Nobody is going to accept Christ naturally. That deceiving cloak of sin has to be removed first in order to see Christ's redemptive work. Does God do this for everybody? Clearly not otherwise everybody would be redeemed and the world would be a much better place. I've seen that cloak being removed and I'm sure you have too. If it wasn't do you think they would come to Christ by themselves? You could preach, try and convince, bible bash the rest of their days and they won't come to Christ.
I furthermore believe that predestination is part of Gods redemptive plan. Though it seems mysterious we will understand one day. It's the same as the mystery of lawlessness. Why did satan sin when he was already perfect and how did he know about it? I don't think adam knew about sin either. All he knew was he'd die if he ate that fruit and that he did. The first sin was doubting Gods word or instruction even before the apple was eaten.
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Oh no ,this did turn into a theology thread.... C'mmon guys, bashing someone's belief system is not gonna help. Can we just agree to disagree and take this into the Bible forum if we want to explain why we disagree? I believe in predestination and making caricatures of what that means is not gonna convince anyone to believe differently. 
Oh no ,this did turn into a theology thread.... C'mmon guys, bashing someone's belief system is not gonna help. Can we just agree to disagree and take this into the Bible forum if we want to explain why we disagree? I believe in predestination and making caricatures of what that means is not gonna convince anyone to believe differently.
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Praus: you mock me yet again PPPP
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I have no clue what's going on here (actually, that's not true), but I do know that I suddenly want bacon and stout. Good job, guys. >_<