Why as a believer I do not celebrate Christmas or Easter With the Rest of the World

[dcontroversal]

I think this is a parallel of moder times, the pharisees had made up their own "holy days" and laws, today we see much of the same but under a different name.

Mattithyah 15:3, "But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"

Exactly! Makes me think of a statement I heard almost 30 years ago when a preacher said, "If you want to give an offering unto the Lord all you have to do is throw a handful of coins out into the forest and God would accept it"...can you imagine the audacity of that? Like Malachi said, go offer it up now to the governor and see if he receives it...WOW!

 

[jody50]

No where in the Bible does it tell us to celebrating the birth of Christ. It tells of His birth but doesn't mention us celebrating it. It does however tells us to remember His death every first day of the week by partaking of the Lord's Supper. It's a pretty well known fact that Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. That and all of the Christmas traditions are man made. If God had wanted us to celebrate it He would have told us how and when.

 

[dcontroversal]

No where in the Bible does it tell us to celebrating the birth of Christ. It tells of His birth but doesn't mention us celebrating it. It does however tells us to remember His death every first day of the week by partaking of the Lord's Supper. It's a pretty well known fact that Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. That and all of the Christmas traditions are man made. If God had wanted us to celebrate it He would have told us how and when.

Amen. I agree and good to see your stand jody50

 

[Gjolll]

No where in the Bible does it tell us to celebrating the birth of Christ. It tells of His birth but doesn't mention us celebrating it. It does however tells us to remember His death every first day of the week by partaking of the Lord's Supper. It's a pretty well known fact that Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. That and all of the Christmas traditions are man made. If God had wanted us to celebrate it He would have told us how and when.

Then again, there is nothing in the bible to prevent one observing a Sabbath in remembrance of Christ's birth. Let's have no legalism or judging of others on this point. If that what you want to do, then it's your business, not mine.

 

[dcontroversal]

Then again, there is nothing in the bible to prevent one observing a Sabbath in remembrance of Christ's birth. Let's have no legalism or judging of others on this point. If that what you want to do, then it's your business, not mine.

Why is it that when a person who disagrees with the modern holiday ends up being accused of judging people when they give their view, but people who agree with it can state what they believe and it isn't judging those who disagree?

 

[dcontroversal]

Then again, there is nothing in the bible to prevent one observing a Sabbath in remembrance of Christ's birth. Let's have no legalism or judging of others on this point. If that what you want to do, then it's your business, not mine.

Or why are we called legalists and or promoting legalism when the exact same could be said about the flip side of this coin?

 

[thecreationtutor]

Hmm by the topic it seems like they are saying that you must be of the world if you celebrate Christmas

 

[megaman125]

Yeah I know it's not the 25th and I guess I missed the scriptures that teach us to go by what we think as opposed to what God commands...Sorry I missed that one.

Let's refer back to #3 on my list, which you keep ignoring.

3. So what? You can tell me Jesus' birth didn't happen on Dec. 25th all you want, but you continually fail to provide an alternative date to those who do celebrate the birth of Jesus. The only conclusion I can draw from this behavioral pattern is that you don't want us to celebrate the birth of Jesus at all. And the issue with that is it's strictly an anti-Christian behavior. Now, if you'd like to provide us with an alternate date to celebrate Jesus' birth, we can clear this all up, or you can just type half a post in all caps again in a huffy fit. Your choice.

So why are you continually unable to provide an appropriate date (since you're so adamantly opposed to Dec. 25th) to celebrate the birth of Christ for those of us who do want to celebrate it?

Why is it that when a person who disagrees with the modern holiday ends up being accused of judging people when they give their view, but people who agree with it can state what they believe and it isn't judging those who disagree?

You can disagree all you want. Claiming we're wrong and sinning for celebrating the birth of Christ, when you have no basis for your claims, well that's when it turns into you judging people.

No where in the Bible does it tell us to celebrating the birth of Christ. It tells of His birth but doesn't mention us celebrating it.

No where in the Bible does it tell us it is wrong or sinful to celebrate the birth of Christ. In fact, I don't see anyone in this topic condemning you for not celebrating the birth of Christ, but I see a ton of condemnation and attacks on those who do want to celebrate it.

 

[Gjolll]

Why is it that when a person who disagrees with the modern holiday ends up being accused of judging people when they give their view, but people who agree with it can state what they believe and it isn't judging those who disagree?

I'm not judging you. You've given your reason for action. I only quote what Paul says in Col 2:16. It's a free world (at least in so far as Christman/Easter is concerned).

 

[adam001]

I've heard that the first human to celebrate his birthday is the Pharaoh, because in that time, only the gods had their birthday.
And he believed that he was a god.
so the simulation between Jesus ans Pharaoh is that both are not god. But humans.
How can god have a birthday ??!
If we look in the Jewish believes, they don't celebrate birthdays. The Muslims the same ..
So why do Christians ??

 

[cjordan38]

Question: How can you celebrate the birth of the savior when he was always here from the begginning? So your celebrating the flesh. You are to give praise and worship to the King because he came to set us free

 

[Dragnon]

Question: How can you celebrate the birth of the savior when he was always here from the begginning? So your celebrating the flesh. You are to give praise and worship to the King because he came to set us free

You can think of it this way, We celebrate Jesus coming into the world because it was at this moment, he descended from divinity in the ultimate act of humility and servanthood, became flesh. We celebrate it as an awesome day because it represents God being with us.
As well as that, think about birthdays, You are thankful for a person all year, but on one particular day you go the extra mile with friends and family to recognise the importance of this person in your life with a birthday party. We are thankful and worship and praise God for coming into the world with us as flesh, but at Christmas we are able to invite more of the world into this, and recognise it a little more.

 

[Loveneverfails]

For me, it's not about whether or not I celebrate Christmas and Easter, it's about how I choose to think about those holidays.

I don't usually talk about this, because those who love to argue tend to assume that I condemn those who celebrate in the traditional way, and that could not be further from the truth.

In my mind, Christmas (and Easter) are each two celebrations that have been merged into one, and I have chosen to separate them.

Christmas #1: a wintertime festival involving Santa, reindeer, sleigh bells, etc. A time to celebrate all that is winter. Bring out the hot cocoa and gather around the fire with your loved ones. Put up lights and festive decorations. It's a very cheery time. living in Alaska, where winters are VERY long, this aspect of Christmas is wonderful to me because it combats the literal seasonal depression that many of us face during winter due to lack of sun. Seeing the lights everywhere helps make long winters more bearable.

Christmas #2: a time where we give thanks to our God for loving us enough to send His only Son into our filthy and sinful world. JOY TO THE WORLD! In my mind this is COMPLETELY separate from the "Santa" side f Christmas.

Does this make any sense? In my mind its like celebrating two separate holidays in one day/season.

Same for Easter, except this one I have two separate names for

Easter: springtime festival celebrating life and new growth. Involves the Easter bunny and eggs, etc. I don't care about this at all so I usually just ignore it.

"Resurrection Sunday": this is a very holy day celebrating the resurrection of Christ. My family and I take THIS holiday very seriously and it is a wonderful time of celebration.

So the way I see it, Easter and Resurrection Sunday are on the same day, but I only celebrate Ressurection Sunday.

I hope that made sense. This is just my view, and I don't shove it on anyone. It's just how I mentally process these holidays. I don't make a fuss about whether its right or wrong for Christians to celebrate them, and I've never tried to tell anyone that they shouldn't celebrate in a "traditional" way.

I think what's most important is keeping our eyes on Christ at all times, but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to be joyous and celebrate good things

 

[Yahshua]

No where in the Bible does it tell us to celebrating the birth of Christ. It tells of His birth but doesn't mention us celebrating it. It does however tells us to remember His death every first day of the week by partaking of the Lord's Supper. It's a pretty well known fact that Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. That and all of the Christmas traditions are man made. If God had wanted us to celebrate it He would have told us how and when.

Leviticus 23:33-44

33 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 34 “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the Feast of Tabernacles for seven days to the Lord. 35 On the first day there shall be a holy convocation [i.e. Holiday]. You shall do no customary work on it [i.e. day off from work]. 36 For seven days you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord. On the eighth day you shall have a holy convocation, and you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord. It is a sacred assembly, and you shall do no customary work on it.

37 ‘These are the feasts of the Lord which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire to the Lord, a burnt offering and a grain offering, a sacrifice and drink offerings, everything on its day— 38 besides the Sabbaths of the Lord, besides your gifts, besides all your vows, and besides all your freewill offerings which you give to the Lord.

39 ‘Also on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when you have gathered in the fruit of the land, you shall keep the feast of the Lord for seven days; on the first day there shall be a sabbath-rest, and on the eighth day a sabbath-rest. 40 And you shall take for yourselves on the first day the fruit of beautiful trees, branches of palm trees, the boughs of leafy trees, and willows of the brook; and you shall rejoice before the Lord your God for seven days. 41 You shall keep it as a feast to the Lord for seven days in the year. It shall be a statute **forever** in your generations. You shall celebrate it in the seventh month. 42 You shall dwell in booths for seven days. All who are native Israelites shall dwell in booths, 43 that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel dwell in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.’”

44 So Moses declared to the children of Israel the feasts of the Lord.​

Booth - (Heb. Sukkot); Temporary structure built *outside* for dwelling in for 7 days.

Manger - the temporary *outside* structure Christ was born in, on the Feast of Tabernacles.

Feast of Tabernacles = Feast of "dwellings", when God would dwell with his people.

John 1:14 - "...and the word was made flesh and **dwelt/tabernacled** among us and we beheld his glory, as the glory of the only begotten of the father, full of grace and truth."

(again) Leviticus 23:41-43

41 You shall keep it as a feast to the Lord for seven days in the year. It shall be a statute **forever** in your generations. You shall celebrate it in the seventh month. 42 You shall dwell in booths for seven days. All who are native Israelites shall dwell in booths, 43 that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel dwell in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.’"​

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So God told his people to celebrate Christ's birthday, the Feast of Tabernacles - the 15th of the 7th biblical month - forever by dwelling in temporary outside structures; representing the temporary outside structure Christ would be born in. It's even in a prophecy of Zechariah 14:16-17 that the nations who do not come up to worship on the Feast of Tabernacles (when Christ comes to reign) will not receive any rain on their land.

 

[cjordan38]

Sorry I dont celebrate anything. I give praise and worship to God for Jesus and the Holy Ghost

 

[Isdaniel]

Easter is not biblical

Q: Would you please explain Matthew 28:1?

Some, in an attempt to teach a Sunday morning resurrection, have used Matthew 28:1 in support of such a teaching. We do know, however, that Jesus Christ was resurrected on Saturday afternoon, around sunset, after having been in the grave for three days and three nights. He was killed on a Wednesday, and placed in the grave on Wednesday afternoon, just around sunset.



"We read in Matthew 28:1-6 (Authorized Version): 'In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it… And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for HE IS RISEN, AS HE SAID.'

"We note from the passage that Christ was already resurrected by the time the women came to the grave. We are told that they appeared 'in the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week.' Many commentaries point out that this phrase discusses the END of the SABBATH, that is, Saturday evening or late afternoon, and NOT Sunday morning.

 

[dcontroversal]

Let's refer back to #3 on my list, which you keep ignoring.

3. So what? You can tell me Jesus' birth didn't happen on Dec. 25th all you want, but you continually fail to provide an alternative date to those who do celebrate the birth of Jesus. The only conclusion I can draw from this behavioral pattern is that you don't want us to celebrate the birth of Jesus at all. And the issue with that is it's strictly an anti-Christian behavior. Now, if you'd like to provide us with an alternate date to celebrate Jesus' birth, we can clear this all up, or you can just type half a post in all caps again in a huffy fit. Your choice.

So why are you continually unable to provide an appropriate date (since you're so adamantly opposed to Dec. 25th) to celebrate the birth of Christ for those of us who do want to celebrate it?



You can disagree all you want. Claiming we're wrong and sinning for celebrating the birth of Christ, when you have no basis for your claims, well that's when it turns into you judging people.



No where in the Bible does it tell us it is wrong or sinful to celebrate the birth of Christ. In fact, I don't see anyone in this topic condemning you for not celebrating the birth of Christ, but I see a ton of condemnation and attacks on those who do want to celebrate it.

1. As to question three above...I suggest you re-read all the post I have made on this subject as I have said numerous times that it is right, biblical and good to preach about the virgin birth of Jesus and that the only thing I disagree to is the modern pagan and religious additions.

And for Anybody to try and ascribe an exact date for the birth of Christ is frivolous at best.

2. Never once judged you and said verbatim that you or anyone who celebrates the birth of Christ is sinning, also I use caps to be emphatic as I am not having nor being "huffy" so your assumption was wrong.

Concerning that last statement that you made about no one condemning me for my stance is laughable. WOW!

 

[dcontroversal]

I'm not judging you. You've given your reason for action. I only quote what Paul says in Col 2:16. It's a free world (at least in so far as Christman/Easter is concerned).

I know you wasn't, apologies mi amigo

 

[megaman125]

1. As to question three above...I suggest you re-read all the post I have made on this subject as I have said numerous times that it is right, biblical and good to preach about the virgin birth of Jesus and that the only thing I disagree to is the modern pagan and religious additions.

And for Anybody to try and ascribe an exact date for the birth of Christ is frivolous at best.

2. Never once judged you and said verbatim that you or anyone who celebrates the birth of Christ is sinning, also I use caps to be emphatic as I am not having nor being "huffy" so your assumption was wrong.

Concerning that last statement that you made about no one condemning me for my stance is laughable. WOW!

Once again you evade, evade, evade. Why can't you provide a date for Christians who do want to celebrate the birth of Jesus? All you keep telling them to do is not to celebrate it, which is nothing but a pure anti-Christian behavior. The least you could do is offer some alternative date to celebrate Jesus' birth, but no, you refuse and evade.

 

[dcontroversal]

Once again you evade, evade, evade. Why can't you provide a date for Christians who do want to celebrate the birth of Jesus? All you keep telling them to do is not to celebrate it, which is nothing but a pure anti-Christian behavior. The least you could do is offer some alternative date to celebrate Jesus' birth, but no, you refuse and evade.

Nobody can give an exact date and to guess is foolish...I have said that every day and or any day is a good day to remember the birth of the Savior not just once a year, while saying that if we are going to glory, glory in the cross, because without His death, burial and resurrection his birth would have been meaningless.