Healing the sick.

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Simiel said:
They just don't know which source they heal from. People can walk in Gods anointing and gifts and never have relationship with him
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God turn Moses rod into a snake , the egyptians rod turn into snakes by whsat power ?
 
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Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive,because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
 
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Yes I believe so even tho he betrayed him he still believed in Jesus. He walked with him and seen his works but he didn't repent "to change the way you think" .... There are numerous Christians out there that believe in Jesus but react, respond, and think like a man who never went to church. So do he get favor just because he believe?? Surely not, it's when you put off the old way of thinking and on Christ mind
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Honestly Judus was made for destruction he had no choice just like the man who was born blind so God to be glorified so was Judus born spiritually blind for eternity to betray Jesus
 
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Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive,because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
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Then why are so many going to hell ? Context is important
 
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They where magicians, they did magic "tricks"
 
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Magic does not exist, the only place your getting healed is at a hospital and usually they can't do much unless it's a hardware problem like a broken leg.
 
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Magic does not exist, the only place your getting healed is at a hospital and usually they can't do much unless it's a hardware problem like a broken leg.
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magic exist in the past , now and in the near future

Daniel 1:20And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king enquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.
 
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Oak said:
Magic does not exist, the only place your getting healed is at a hospital and usually they can't do much unless it's a hardware problem like a broken leg.
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[h=3]James 5:14-16[/h]King James Version (KJV)

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
 
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My guess and just a guess. They never repent "change the way they think" putting off the old and on the new. So they alienate God in there mind become idol or false god among them self staying selfish, self preserving and self centered. same as the Luke warm Christian. ( but they believe)... I would love to hear why you believe people go to hell.
 
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Jesus said if you believe in me you will do the same works I do and greater. Also those that believe in will lay hands on the sick and they will recover.
 
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Simiel said:
Jesus said if you believe in me you will do the same works I do and greater. Also those that believe in will lay hands on the sick and they will recover.
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thats good but not all have the gift of healing
 
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Simiel said:
My guess and just a guess. They never repent "change the way they think" putting off the old and on the new. So they alienate God in there mind become idol or false god among them self staying selfish, self preserving and self centered. same as the Luke warm Christian. ( but they believe)... I would love to hear why you believe people go to hell.
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Can a christian pray for a nonbeliever to be healed ?
Will God heal them ?
 
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Simiel said:
My guess and just a guess. They never repent "change the way they think" putting off the old and on the new. So they alienate God in there mind become idol or false god among them self staying selfish, self preserving and self centered. same as the Luke warm Christian. ( but they believe)... I would love to hear why you believe people go to hell.
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The bble says people are going to the lake of fire

Revelation 20:15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
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Simiel said:
My guess and just a guess. They never repent "change the way they think" putting off the old and on the new. So they alienate God in there mind become idol or false god among them self staying selfish, self preserving and self centered. same as the Luke warm Christian. ( but they believe)... I would love to hear why you believe people go to hell.
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Is telling people if they dont repent that they will go to hell part of the good news ?
 
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He didn't say if you had the gift you will lay hands on the sick and they will recover. If you "believe" in me you will. Also he says these signs follow those that Believe
 
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Simiel said:
He didn't say if you had the gift you will lay hands on the sick and they will recover. If you "believe" in me you will. Also he says these signs follow those that Believe
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Context my friend not all believers have the same gifts

1 Corinthians 12

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1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
 
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Oak said:
Magic does not exist, the only place your getting healed is at a hospital and usually they can't do much unless it's a hardware problem like a broken leg.
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[h=3]Revelation 16:14[/h]King James Version (KJV)

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great dayof God Almighty.
 
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Simiel said:
They where magicians, they did magic "tricks"
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[h=3]Revelation 16:14[/h]King James Version (KJV)

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great dayof God Almighty.


 
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If I never Renee my mind how can I put on the new? The good news is that all man are saved. But how can they walk like Christ if they never renew there mind? If they still think in the way that seems right to a man?
 
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