How to keep the Sabbath.

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Now, one more time, I don't want anyone to be confused when I speak of "His people Israel". Because the invitation to join Israel is for the whole world. Christ died for the whole world. The testimony of Christ and the keeping of the commandments is how you know that you have God the Father and Christ the Son.

To those who have belief (and some very strong belief) that the law is bad and to desire to follow any of it will put you in Hell, I say to each his own until judgment day. I have love, joy and peace. I have endurance to keep to the course until the very end. I have patience in sharing the gospel of Christ, that is the gospel Christ preached, the Kingdom of God/Heaven is coming. The Kingdom that restores the house of Israel and the house of Judah (including all those who choose to join this commonwealth).
Ezekiel 37:15-19 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
 

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It's not a tradition. I grow a garden and use the same principle. I works all the time. I eat vegetables and my wife cans them. No chemicals or anything, and as small a plot as we have, we can 150 to 160 quarts of vegetables, and juices each year accept the Sabbath year, but we have enough to sustain us during that time. It’s the same as the manna, and the same as the famine during Joseph’s days. With that said, seven is the number that works all the time in everything. I say WOW!
I give praise Yahweh for providing you with abundance, that is awesome! it really put a smile on my face!

clean and healthy food! Yahweh provides!!!

halleluYAHWEH!!!!!
 

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Yes, his commandments: faith and love. Law keepers fixate on the law of Moses to the point that they can't see the law of GOD come in the flesh.
Your comments sound like you are shooting from the hip. Really? They can't see the law of God come in the flesh? Really? It is only because of the Son of God who became the Son of Man and in the flesh lived among us, and lived a fleshly perfect life, as we as a perfect spiritual life, and willingly chose to die for us, to suffer an awful painful death for us, and that He chose to resurrect his dead physical body, that we are brought into covenant with God. And what is that covenant? That His laws are written on our heart so that we can keep the commandments. They have not changed, but man changed them. To be given the ability to see that the entire Bible is relevant for today, to understand from Genesis to Revelation, is a gift of God. You, do not have His gift and you have no love of His laws or the love of God's character which are reflected and magnified through the Word (ALL of the Word). You think Jesus came with magical scissors and cut out the truth of the word so that Christ could be magnified and not the law.

Isa 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Psa 40:16 Let all those that seek thee rejoice and be glad in thee: let such as love thy salvation say continually, The LORD be magnified.

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Law and Grace are compatible. For anyone who does not understand God's Gracious Gift of Yeshua/Jesus are lost and without hope of salvation.

Deu 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

When one understands why Christ died for our sins, that we were without hope, doomed forever as divorced from God, and you understand the doctrine of divorce and remarriage, a bright light shines into all the dark places, revealing just how wicked we are and how we are as filthy rags, in need of something that is so mind boggling, to be washed clean in the blood of the Lamb.

Isa 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
Isa 55:2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
Isa 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
Isa 55:4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
Isa 55:5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.
Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isa 55:10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Isa 55:12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
Isa 55:13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
 
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Your comments sound like you are shooting from the hip. Really? They can't see the law of God come in the flesh? Really? It is only because of the Son of God who became the Son of Man and in the flesh lived among us, and lived a fleshly perfect life, as we as a perfect spiritual life, and willingly chose to die for us, to suffer an awful painful death for us, and that He chose to resurrect his dead physical body, that we are brought into covenant with God. And what is that covenant? That His laws are written on our heart so that we can keep the commandments. They have not changed, but man changed them. To be given the ability to see that the entire Bible is relevant for today, to understand from Genesis to Revelation, is a gift of God. You, do not have His gift and you have no love of His laws or the love of God's character which are reflected and magnified through the Word (ALL of the Word). You think Jesus came with magical scissors and cut out the truth of the word so that Christ could be magnified and not the law.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. So fixated on the law of Moses that what is plainly written in scripture can't be seen. There has been a change of law because the priesthood (and covenant) has changed.

​Thus if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood, for on the basis of it the people received the law, what further need is there for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek and not said to be according to the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood changes, of necessity there is a change of the law also. Hebrews 7:11-12​

If you are tempted to make the claim (that the law-cultist websites make) that this only pertains to ceremonial law, please show a scriptural warrant that GOD authorizes such distinctions to be made about his law.
 
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I go 'on the assault' when it's a doctrine that is contrary to something taught by Christ and his apostles.
Sorry friend you won't find not one word of Christ that says it's okay to break the commandments.
Also I never remember Christ going on the assault against people who believe the scripture.
 

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. So fixated on the law of Moses that what is plainly written in scripture can't be seen. There has been a change of law because the priesthood (and covenant) has changed.

​Thus if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood, for on the basis of it the people received the law, what further need is there for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek and not said to be according to the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood changes, of necessity there is a change of the law also. Hebrews 7:11-12​


If you are tempted to make the claim (that the law-cultist websites make) that this only pertains to ceremonial law, please show a scriptural warrant that GOD authorizes such distinctions to be made about his law.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

God found "fault with them," not His own law. Thus God fixed the priestly system (them) and made it perfect (through Yeshua), just like His already perfect law.


Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual:
 
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1 John 2:7-10 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

Leviticus 25:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And ye shall sow the eighth year, and eat yet of old fruit until the ninth year; until her fruits come in ye shall eat of the old store.

Then comes the fulfilling of the law in Christ. Yay!!! How can professing Christians deny that which Christ has completed? Throw it away, and then there is nothing to fulfill in the minds and hearts of those looking at us. Then it all becomes vanity. That way of thinking is a degradation to our Savior, and lessons His dynamics in the sight of those who purposefully deny it.

Leviticus 26:10 (KJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new.

These are prophecies written within the law, predicting the final covenant. Some will say the the old wine skins can't fit into the new skins. This is ignorance talking, because both old and new wine are not mentioned. Besides, what purpose does it serve trying to shove one bag into another one? We really should be concentrating on the contents, not the container. The contents are all of the word of God, including the law. Wine is really good with age. The Bible endorses drinking that first because of the new stuff. The wine then becomes a schoolmaster for the lost and the saved in kind. The covenants were broken, not because of the words they contain, but our inability to live up to them. Christ was crucified with that enmity, not the law. If you aren't up to doing that, you are underneath, still trying, and the Bible proves that this doesn't work when we are underneath. I think the Bible calls that being "under the law."

John 5:45-47 (KJV)
[SUP]45 [/SUP]Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
[SUP]46 [/SUP]For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
 
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We must learn to read the Bible instead of listening to men who are out to make money off of you.

It is Gods holy law not Moses law

Moses law was the constituion how to run the country, it was placed in the SIDE of the arl
the LAW of JEHOVAH is eternal and it was placed INSIDE the ark
 
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If you LOVE me keep my commandments
Gods commandments were put INSIDE the ark.
they include the Sabbath

the law of Moses was put outside of the ark in the special cubbyhole made for it

Jesus ratified that one.
We dont lamb sacrifice or circumcise anymore but we do keep the Sabbath.

It is good to t=read the Bible before we accidentally help the BEAST and his world religion kill people by keeping the day of the SUN BAAL..
 
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The whole book of Romans was in answer to the Law of Jehovah, someone asked him DO WE KEEP THE LAW STILL
and the last five verses of the letter to the Romans says:
YES we certainly keep GODS TEN COMMANDMENTS
 

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Many try to make the Sabbath a burden on those who obey the Lord. In so doing they do just as the Jewish people did in making the law a burden by adding traditions/interpretations of the law that were from man and not God.

So lets look at what it means to keep the Sabbath.

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The very first part is "Remember" the Sabbath day. why? to keep it Holy. what does keeping it Holy mean?

The word Holy means to sanctify or set apart for Holy use, apart from what? the other 6 days. So God asks us to remember the Sabbath to keep it set apart from other days. why?

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Because He is God and he made/worked the heavens and earth in six days on on the seventh he set it apart for holy use. Last time I checked God still is the creator so if the reason is still valid and the commandment is based on the reason then seems logical still stands.

Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

We are to do our work in the other six days, what work?

The Sabbath is a day of rest to the body from the labour and toil, and rest to the soulf from all worldly care and anxieties. God set it apart to be devoted not to secular but to sacred work. This is a wise provision from God for the benefit of man.

This benefit was for all in the household.
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

notice that all are included even the animals which would have been used in their labours to move objects yield crops etc. but also the stranger in thy gate. It is important to understand that many had bond servants who lived on their properties and worked for them. but God says that they should also be given rest from their labours. In other words God gave this rest as a blessing and the stranger was also protected by God in this blessing so that the master could not force their bond servant to work while they rested.

Exo 23:12 Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed.

The whole point was to refresh the body and also to remember who created man, to remember God.

When people sprout on about using internet etc on the Sabbath they miss the whole point, it was about making/forcing others to work while you rest. God says everyone has the need and right to rest and refresh. The Sabbath is not a burden but a blessing if we only keep what God says and not add traditions to it.

The last point is that the Sabbath is the 7th day. why because that is the day God rested and He asks us to remember that.

The specific day must matter to God, because He specifies which day and points it back to his example. plus the reason for it was to Keep it Holy. in other words keep it set apart. because God already set it apart on the seventh day of creation.

blessings.
To me I see it as every day and give God thanks, whistling while I work or not.
Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

So to each their own for those of us that do believe are:
1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

 
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The whole book of Romans was in answer to the Law of Jehovah, someone asked him DO WE KEEP THE LAW STILL
and the last five verses of the letter to the Romans says:
YES we certainly keep GODS TEN COMMANDMENTS

The king james pagan priests took the word for Moses Law of health and the different word for the Law or sacrifices and ordinances and the Different word for the ten commanments and called the ALL THE LAW
just the LAW
so in the origianl language when you click on a concordance word in the kjv which is very good version, you will see the origiinal word iwhe you look up LAW and you will see wether that work is talking about the ten commandments or the sacrificial laws.

it is very helpful

anyone can see

get a free bible from
theword.net or from E-sword.com and you can instanly install a free Bible and check out each word what the ORIGIAL meant

satan is very deceptive in confusing the meanings of the law, he is trying to Babylon everyon
babylon means confusion
he is trying to confuse everyone

so me telling you to look up each word is UNCONFUSING
this is unBabylon
and will expose the sun day lie satan invented in 321 AD by constantine.


You know the pope in the time of the reformatin said
"How can they call themselves Bible followers when they keep our sunday? Sunday is not in the bible.
Just leave them alone and they will join us again, if you keep sunday you are giving yourself to our authority and not following the Bible commandment which WE changed.
 
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If you LOVE me keep my commandments
Gods commandments were put INSIDE the ark.
they include the Sabbath

the law of Moses was put outside of the ark in the special cubbyhole made for it

Jesus ratified that one.
Yet when Christ declared what the greatest two commandments are, neither of them were written on the stone tablets inside the ark, but were written on the scroll outside of the ark.
 

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. So fixated on the law of Moses that what is plainly written in scripture can't be seen. There has been a change of law because the priesthood (and covenant) has changed.

​Thus if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood, for on the basis of it the people received the law, what further need is there for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek and not said to be according to the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood changes, of necessity there is a change of the law also. Hebrews 7:11-12​


If you are tempted to make the claim (that the law-cultist websites make) that this only pertains to ceremonial law, please show a scriptural warrant that GOD authorizes such distinctions to be made about his law.
The change of the Law was the change concerning the Aaronic Priesthood to the Mechisidec Priesthood. Context makes this plain.
 
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Sorry friend you won't find not one word of Christ that says it's okay to break the commandments.
Also I never remember Christ going on the assault against people who believe the scripture.
Well I guess you're another person who can't conceive of GOD's law beyond the letters of the 10 commandments. Those under the new covenant are neither under the law of Moses, nor are they without law.
 

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Often when the bible speaks of works, it means the idea that works are as powerful as God, that works can save. This idea must stand together with God's decree that we must obey. Man has said that all obedience is works, and so man has distorted God's truth.

In God's spiritual language the word flesh is used to describe man as he lives without any of the spiritual of God. So in God language flesh is part of darkness. It is also true that man is made in God's image, and how we live in the world must reflect the spiritual nature of our world. We are to die to the flesh and live in the Lord. We are still in our fleshly bodies.

All these silly excuses are like little children saying "But Daddy, I don't have to do that because I remember you said----"
The bottom line is that Daddy said that for one day in the week, you are to give up all your doing to make all your life, and give over everything to God doing. Your food, your marriage, your shelter, everything. You are to do your best to take care of all of that for six days, best you can. But this day, let God have control.
Yet is this not true here: I think you tried to say this as I read, and I think the discernment here important don't you?
James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 

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Well I guess you're another person who can't conceive of GOD's law beyond the letters of the 10 commandments. Those under the new covenant are neither under the law of Moses, nor are they without law.
And yet we read...

Jer 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
Jer 31:32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD.
Jer 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Jer 31:34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

And the word for Law is Torah.
 

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so you focus and do the will of Yahweh 100% every single day?
Well yes, don't you? Maybe not ever minute of the day, but every day I focus on Him, I pray, read His word, listen to His word, I listen to praises and praise Him. When I work, I do it unto the Lord, when I play I do it unto the Lord, when I cook, eat, watch tv I do it unto the Lord. I do fail in doing this all the time, but it my desire to please Him. And nothing pleases Him more then for me/us to approach His throne with boldness and ask for mercy (Heb 4:16).

that is impossible, do you work, cook food, work out, play sports, watch TV, etc?
And you abstain perfectly from doing anything on Saturday, every minute?

Isayah 8:20, "To the Law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."
So what's your purpose for quoting this verse?[/quote] So what's your purpose for quoting these verses? Be honest, accuser of the brethren perhaps?

Seems those of Yahweh are not free from His Law, but actually they love it and dont consider it a burden:[/quote]I have no problem with the ten commandments. I try to keep them to the best of my ability. However, I'm not saved by keeping them, you see, I have an intercessor who keeps them for me and out that gratitude I wish to keep them (Romans 8:34). Do you know who is the one who condemns?

Yeremyah 31:33, "After those days, says Yahweh: I will put My Law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; minds, and I will be their Father, and they will be My people."
8451. torah - torah: direction, instruction, law Original Word: תּוֹרָה Part of Speech: Noun Feminine Transliteration: torah
Phonetic Spelling: (to-raw') Short Definition: law
You can follow the written law of paper, I choose to follow the law written in my heart, the spirit of the law.

1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yahweh: When we love Yahweh by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of Yahweh: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."
You use the copy paste feature very well.
 

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Ok one place in the bible, Just one that says clearly that the 7th day Sabbath is done away with.
Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Matthew 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
Matthew 12:10 and, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
Matthew 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
Luke 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.




 
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The change of the Law was the change concerning the Aaronic Priesthood to the Mechisidec Priesthood. Context makes this plain.
The law came through the priesthood. It was based on the priesthood. Therefore, if the priesthood was changed, by necessity then the law would change also because the law come through the priesthood, and the new priesthood would have its own law. That is why GOD told Israel to be on the lookout for a prophet who would come after Moses speaking new things in GOD's name. Those new things are the new law.