How to keep the Sabbath.
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I would say that God is responsible for the change of ceremonial laws. Yeshua predicted the end of the temple and with the end of the temple, came consequentially the end of doing sacrifices in the temple. But, it didn't happen until about 39 or 40 years after Yeshua's death, burial and resurrection.
I guess when the curtain was torn from top to bottom, they (the Levite priests) had another one ready to put in its place and didn't take God's big hint that the Holy of Holies was now open to all peoples through Christ. The reason the temple was destroyed because the Romans attacked Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple in 70 AD. The Jews scattered at that time, only to reclaim their homeland in May 1948. That bit of prophecy is absolutely amazing. So looking now believing we are in the last days.
We are now in the last days. How long till the final last days? Have general ideas, but nothing solid. I often wonder what is the generational time period that Yeshua referred to as recorded by Matthew, Mark and Luke.
Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mark 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
Kind of a side note, but I watch a site called SIGHTEDMOON.COM and the author states we will reach the 120th Jubilee on September 11/12, 2045. (This isn't date setting, because he is not saying the Second Coming is on that date.) This, of course, referring to what Yahweh told Noah in Genesis Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Since there is no record other than Moses living to the ripe old age of 120 years, some say this is referring to the number of jubilees.
Every 49 and 50 years and every 50th year also being year 1 and this would equal around 5880 years. Don't know when the first Jubilee was, but I'll search it out and see if there is any solid history.
God Bless You. That was an excellent question and I had to pray about it for several days before I could answer. Some things are just mysterious until revealed. In due time, all our questions will be answered, if we keep seeking and asking.
I guess when the curtain was torn from top to bottom, they (the Levite priests) had another one ready to put in its place and didn't take God's big hint that the Holy of Holies was now open to all peoples through Christ. The reason the temple was destroyed because the Romans attacked Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple in 70 AD. The Jews scattered at that time, only to reclaim their homeland in May 1948. That bit of prophecy is absolutely amazing. So looking now believing we are in the last days.
We are now in the last days. How long till the final last days? Have general ideas, but nothing solid. I often wonder what is the generational time period that Yeshua referred to as recorded by Matthew, Mark and Luke.
Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mark 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
Kind of a side note, but I watch a site called SIGHTEDMOON.COM and the author states we will reach the 120th Jubilee on September 11/12, 2045. (This isn't date setting, because he is not saying the Second Coming is on that date.) This, of course, referring to what Yahweh told Noah in Genesis Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Since there is no record other than Moses living to the ripe old age of 120 years, some say this is referring to the number of jubilees.
Every 49 and 50 years and every 50th year also being year 1 and this would equal around 5880 years. Don't know when the first Jubilee was, but I'll search it out and see if there is any solid history.
God Bless You. That was an excellent question and I had to pray about it for several days before I could answer. Some things are just mysterious until revealed. In due time, all our questions will be answered, if we keep seeking and asking.
You are not making sense!! You say there is no beauty in the law, because of Christ? Of course Christ is the key to our life, that was true from the day of creation. There is beauty in the law, that was also true. Why can't we know both? The law makes no statement that we may not be near God. That is you adding to scripture and we may not do that. The only connection between law and Christ is that we can go to Christ when we do not meet the requirements of the law. It is also true that even though the law has God and beauty in it, it takes God to result in salvation, but if you are looking at the beauty of the law you are not asking it to save you, that would also be adding to scripture something that isn't there.
No scripture says that the principles of God the ceremonies represented was changed at all. We could skip being circumcised with a knife, but we couldn't skip being circumcised. We could skip eating only foods from animals who didn't eat scavengers, but we couldn't skip being clean in thought, word and deed. We could skip painting the words saying we love the Lord in this house on our doorposts, but we couldn't skip loving the Lord.
Good point, which reminded me that there are in fact no real Sabbaths under our legal systems currently instituted, except as what national law dictate, and the fact is they do not establish the concept of the Sabbath. However in Germany, they go in for keeping Sunday special quite a bit, so there the OT command would be reflected in Paul's command to adhere to those in authority.
You see what you're missing is that Sabbaths were a part of the national law, and instituted as part of the Israelite legal system in a context where there was no justification apart from by keeping the law. Therefore Sabbaths were to be strictly enforced. But under pagan legal systems, Sabbaths don't really exist, and so the command to remember the Sabbath does not exist, except in the spiritual sense of remembering the promise of future rest promised to believers.
If the law says, you may not work on Sundays, then that is the extent of Sabbath observance for the Christian. If the law says, you may work on Sundays, then that is the extent of Sabbath observance, and then the reality is that you will likely be expected to work on Sundays, which happens now in many professions, such as health care, public service companies etc.
You see what you're missing is that Sabbaths were a part of the national law, and instituted as part of the Israelite legal system in a context where there was no justification apart from by keeping the law. Therefore Sabbaths were to be strictly enforced. But under pagan legal systems, Sabbaths don't really exist, and so the command to remember the Sabbath does not exist, except in the spiritual sense of remembering the promise of future rest promised to believers.
If the law says, you may not work on Sundays, then that is the extent of Sabbath observance for the Christian. If the law says, you may work on Sundays, then that is the extent of Sabbath observance, and then the reality is that you will likely be expected to work on Sundays, which happens now in many professions, such as health care, public service companies etc.
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But the fact that physical circumcision is no longer required indicates that a change in law did indeed take place. btw, the law commanding physical circumcision was not a ceremonial law, yet it has been completely done away with. This fact contradicts the law-keeper talking point that only the ceremonial laws were done away with, or changed.
For your sake, I'm sorry that you feel that way because it only hurts you. As regards to you, I have nothing to apologize to you for because I haven't wronged you. Your indignant response to an imagined offense was completely inappropriate. As far as us being brothers, frankly I don't consider you to be my brother. You are a follower of Moses, not Christ. You are a Christian in name only IMO. Your doctrine is antiChrist and enmity to the cross. I would that you were my brother as I would that all men are. So I encourage to repent of your rebellion of unbelief and putting stumbling blocks in front of GOD's children.
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Back to the thread,
the only way to keep the Sabbath is being Sabbathed.
that is Barak ing kneeling and worshipping God and receiving his holy spirit
and speaking by inspiration
the words of the father (all that the prophets have spoken)
and keeping silent in the temple.
God is more honorable than the queen of England.
If they were in the same room I would turn to God and kneel before God.
the only way to keep the Sabbath is being Sabbathed.
that is Barak ing kneeling and worshipping God and receiving his holy spirit
and speaking by inspiration
the words of the father (all that the prophets have spoken)
and keeping silent in the temple.
God is more honorable than the queen of England.
If they were in the same room I would turn to God and kneel before God.
You say it has been done away with, the bible says it hasn't. You are looking at only the physical part, yet your posts tell us you have such a spiritual outlook. Now you are changing and saying it is the physical that is important. Scripture does not say it is sinful to use the physical part of this obedience, in fact it says we are not to judge based on that part. It is sinful to use the physical part and ignore what it means. That was true the day scripture told us about using these ceremonies.
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While under the Law, the Israelites were required to set aside one day every week for rest and worship. Christians, on the other hand, are required to worship God, not just one day per week, but every day.
Is it wrong, then, to set aside one day every week for rest and worship? No. God’s Word leaves such a decision to each individual, saying: “One person decides that one day is holier than another. Another person decides that all days are the same. Every person must make his own decision.” (Romans 14:5, God’s Word) While some may choose to view one day as more holy than others, the Bible clearly indicates that God does not expect Christians to observe a weekly Sabbath.
There is a wealth of meaning in the Ten Commandments! Based as they are on divine principles that will never be out-of-date, we should prize them as precious reminders of our obligation to love God and our neighbor.—Matthew 22:37-39.
Jesus’ death brought an end to the Law, including the Ten Commandments given to the Israelites at Mount Sinai. But the value of the divine principles included in the Mosaic Law are eternal.
Is it wrong, then, to set aside one day every week for rest and worship? No. God’s Word leaves such a decision to each individual, saying: “One person decides that one day is holier than another. Another person decides that all days are the same. Every person must make his own decision.” (Romans 14:5, God’s Word) While some may choose to view one day as more holy than others, the Bible clearly indicates that God does not expect Christians to observe a weekly Sabbath.
There is a wealth of meaning in the Ten Commandments! Based as they are on divine principles that will never be out-of-date, we should prize them as precious reminders of our obligation to love God and our neighbor.—Matthew 22:37-39.
Jesus’ death brought an end to the Law, including the Ten Commandments given to the Israelites at Mount Sinai. But the value of the divine principles included in the Mosaic Law are eternal.