The Truth About The Sabbath

[Josh321]

Thats true because your post clearly shews that hmmmm thou does not understand nothing

it shows that you don't understand what i am saying, help me understand what you are saying though sounds to me that your trying to tell us to be a " good citizen "

 

[Isdaniel]

it shows that you don't understand what i am saying, help me understand what you are saying though sounds to me that your trying to tell us to be a " good citizen "

hmmm that funny but i tell no man nothing hmmmmm the bible speak for itself

 

[Isdaniel]

The writer communicated with Archbishop Ryan, stating Father Enright's position, and received the following reply:
Chancellor's Office
Archdiocese of Philadelphia
225 N. 18th Street
Philadelphia, PA

Mr. E. E. Franke

Dear Sir,
Of course, Father Enright is correct. There is not a word in the New Testament about Christ's changing the Sabbath, the seventh day.

Consult any Catholic work that has a chapter on tradition, and you should find what you need.

The church alone is authority for the transfer from Saturday to Sunday.

Truly yours,
F.Hoostman
Chancellor

 

[Josh321]

hmmm that funny but i tell no man nothing hmmmmm the bible speak for itself

it does, but we gotta understand how it is speaking it

 

[Josh321]

what i can't understand is.. how can people profess to be christians and reject the word of God?[h=3]Galatians 2:19[/h]King James Version (KJV)

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

how can anyone call themselve a christian and look at this and still end up saying, " we must keep the sabbath to the saved " you should flee to God in a hurry if your saying such things

 

[RuthHannah]

what i can't understand is.. how can people profess to be christians and reject the word of God?Galatians 2:19

King James Version (KJV)

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

how can anyone call themselve a christian and look at this and still end up saying, " we must keep the sabbath to the saved " you should flee to God in a hurry if your saying such things

Could you explain what are we really justified by one minute it says law then by faith , grace then by not law

What is it really my wise friend

Acts 13:39And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans 2:13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Romans 3:24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Galatians 2:16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might bejustified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

 

[Karraster]

it does, but we gotta understand how it is speaking it

Doesn't it speak differently to each man? I mean, aren't we supposed to do what is right in our eyes since we no longer have to obey God's commandments? We listen to the voice within us to guide us? forget about law.....do what's right in our own eyes, yeah....is that what u mean?

 

[RuthHannah]

what i can't understand is.. how can people profess to be christians and reject the word of God?Galatians 2:19

King James Version (KJV)

19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

how can anyone call themselve a christian and look at this and still end up saying, " we must keep the sabbath to the saved " you should flee to God in a hurry if your saying such things

I am Nt but is that sabbath alone or the other 9 is included there because I do not see Sabbath but the word law how are you able to say sabbath there and not stealing or something else

 

[Josh321]

Could you explain what are we really justified by one minute it says law then by faith , grace then by not law

What is it really my wise friend

Acts 13:39And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans 2:13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.


Romans 3:24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Galatians 2:16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might bejustified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

it's the power of God, the supernatural power of God that makes this possible, please look at me... i have no idea what i'm doing but i'm doing it, it's the spirit of christ living in the believer.... the same spirit that was in Christ Jesus living in the believer, not a single person can understand this unless they experience it for themselves.. i don't even know how to explain it to you in the right way all i can tell you is, i was a sinner lost away in the world didn't know nothing about the bible nothing about what i'm saying now but God recognising my faith, accepted my faith and gave me the promise of the holy spirit as he said he would and here i am now

 

[Josh321]

I am Nt but is that sabbath alone or the other 9 is included there because I do not see Sabbath but the word law how are you able to say sabbath there and not stealing or something else

everysingle thing, God fulfilled it through Jesus, he gives us complete rest to our souls when we accept him eternal rest we completely cease from our works of iniquity, have you ever wanted to stop something but couldn't stop it no matter what? like lets say for example wanted to stop drinking but you couldn't and you just kept living in that sin despite you wanting to stop? well when we accept Christ he completely puts us at rest from this and we cease our works of iniquity

 

[KJV1611]

it does, but we gotta understand how it is speaking it

Here is the problem, and no words from anyone on this forum will change this. These Sabaath day keepers will never understand what you're saying. The shepherd that leads them is blind in his right eye. That means he can't see the right side of the bible (New Testament Grace). Sabaath day keepers stumble over the multitude of New Testament passages about grace.... they can't see it, they are blind to it.

Zec 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Could you explain what are we really justified by one minute it says law then by faith then by not law

Romans 2:13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Paul isn't saying in this verse that the law of Moses will justify law keepers, but that merely being under and hearing the law is not enough to justify a person. The person must actually perform the law to be just. You have to consider the previous verse to get the context

For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. Romans 2:12​

In other words, those who live under the law of Moses are required to perfectly keep the law. This is impossible, of course, as Paul makes clear elsewhere. Consequently, all who are under the law without faith in Christ will be judged by the law.

He's simply drawing a comparison between those who lived under law (Jews), but didn't do the righteousness required by the law, and those who did not live under the law (gentiles), but did the righteousness required by the law (i.e. love of GOD and mankind).

 

[Isdaniel]

Here is the problem, and no words from anyone on this forum will change this. These Sabaath day keepers will never understand what you're saying. The shepherd that leads them is blind in his right eye. That means he can't see the right side of the bible (New Testament Grace). Sabaath day keepers stumble over the multitude of New Testament passages about grace.... they can't see it, they are blind to it.

Zec 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

hmm you areso wrong we understand cleraly what is being said but hmm we love truth and dont follow strangers with false doctrine and lies hmmmmm

Where did Sunday worship originate from ?

 

[Brother_Don]

All God wants is to have Christians have His 10 commandments written in their hearts. Then God will be all and in all. 1Corinthians 15:28

 

[Isdaniel]

everysingle thing, God fulfilled it through Jesus, he gives us complete rest to our souls when we accept him eternal rest we completely cease from our works of iniquity, have you ever wanted to stop something but couldn't stop it no matter what? like lets say for example wanted to stop drinking but you couldn't and you just kept living in that sin despite you wanting to stop? well when we accept Christ he completely puts us at rest from this and we cease our works of iniquity

thou art found wanting
this is Why Jesus is coming to destroy alot of people hmmm you dont even kow how to properly explain the truth yet you give a water down explaination which is a lie hmm

Please shew that is the sabbath it says law hmmm you cannot but yet you will not say it means stealing or the other 9 commandments hmm

hmm you probaly solving mysteries that are not even there

 

[Isdaniel]

All God wants is to have Christians have His 10 commandments written in their hearts. Then God will be all and in all. 1Corinthians 15:28

You can say that again hmm but it look like some say is only 9 yet they are sure if to say 9

 

[Josh321]

Here is the problem, and no words from anyone on this forum will change this. These Sabaath day keepers will never understand what you're saying. The shepherd that leads them is blind in his right eye. That means he can't see the right side of the bible (New Testament Grace). Sabaath day keepers stumble over the multitude of New Testament passages about grace.... they can't see it, they are blind to it.

Zec 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

that's not a good thing either... because the only thing we are saved by is his grace

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Doesn't it speak differently to each man? I mean, aren't we supposed to do what is right in our eyes since we no longer have to obey God's commandments? We listen to the voice within us to guide us? forget about law.....do what's right in our own eyes, yeah....is that what u mean?

Well I can see how someone without the holy spirit could think like this, but to someone who has the spirit of GOD dwelling within and follows its voice, it is nonsensical. The spirit will not lead one to do anything that would violate the righteousness demanded by the law.

 

[Isdaniel]

that's not a good thing either... because the only thing we are saved by is his grace

hmm i thought you were wise please explain the justification verses hmmm we are all waiting wise head

 

[Isdaniel]

Paul isn't saying in this verse that the law of Moses will justify law keepers, but that merely being under and hearing the law is not enough to justify a person. The person must actually perform the law to be just. You have to consider the previous verse to get the context

For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. Romans 2:12​

In other words, those who live under the law of Moses are required to perfectly keep the law. This is impossible, of course, as Paul makes clear elsewhere. Consequently, all who are under the law without faith in Christ will be judged by the law.

He's simply drawing a comparison between those who lived under law (Jews), but didn't do the righteousness required by the law, and those who did not live under the law (gentiles), but did the righteousness required by the law (i.e. love of GOD and mankind).

please try again thou grace keeper she wanted the truth not your opinion hmmm