The Truth About The Sabbath
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isdaniel, is one of these your church?
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Josh the OP has misunderstood the whole concept of the Sabbath and God's rest. The Sabbath and entering into God's rest are two entirely different subjects.
Originally the Sabbath day was inaugurated by God as the fourth of the Ten Commandments. There is argument whether they are relevant anymore. Some say no as they are all fulfilled in Christ. Some say yes except the fourth commandment and some say yes all are still relevant.
If they are fulfilled in Christ that means we have to live a life that fulfils the law and more so we are set a higher standard.
If they are relevant except the fourth, you have to find scripture that says this and you can’t.
If you believe they are all still relevant you have to work out how to apply them as a promise rather than a command.
The word ‘Sabbath’ as in the Sabbath day appears 60 times in the New Testament (NT). It is the same Greek word in every reference and means a day of repose from secular activity. There is not one case of meaning us entering a permanent Sabbath rest.
This means that the Sabbath Day in the NT is a day, not a permanent fixture.
As far as Hebrews is concerned, we are not talking about a Sabbath day but a Sabbath rest which every believer enters into. In Hebrews 4:9 it says….So, then, there remains a Sabbath rest to the people of God. This Sabbath rest in Greek is a repose of Christianity and it is something that we enter into.
You don’t enter into a Sabbath Day. You observe it.
The previous chapter of Hebrews explains this rest using Moses and the children of Israel as an example. They spent 40 years in the wilderness and as a result did not enter into God’s rest in the Promised Land because of their unbelief.
Belief or unbelief will not and does not make any difference to the keeping of the Sabbath (seventh) day so it is obvious that Hebrews does not refer to the Sabbath (seventh) day.
In Hebrews 4:1 it says….Therefore, let us fear lest perhaps a promise having been left to enter into His rest, any of you may seem to come short.
The Hebrews rest was a promise, not a command and it talks about coming short of it as the Children of Israel did. One does not come short of a Sabbath day because there is no mention anywhere in scripture of coming short of a Sabbath day.
A believer can fall short of entering into God’s rest by continuing in their own works, not by meeting on Sunday. When you do not acknowledge his Lordship in your life and allow him to be Lord of all, you do not enter into rest. That means whether you meet on Saturday or Sunday, you are striving to please God (or your church or church leadership).
And just to throw a spanner in the works, the New Testament Church met every day, not one day a week.
Originally the Sabbath day was inaugurated by God as the fourth of the Ten Commandments. There is argument whether they are relevant anymore. Some say no as they are all fulfilled in Christ. Some say yes except the fourth commandment and some say yes all are still relevant.
If they are fulfilled in Christ that means we have to live a life that fulfils the law and more so we are set a higher standard.
If they are relevant except the fourth, you have to find scripture that says this and you can’t.
If you believe they are all still relevant you have to work out how to apply them as a promise rather than a command.
The word ‘Sabbath’ as in the Sabbath day appears 60 times in the New Testament (NT). It is the same Greek word in every reference and means a day of repose from secular activity. There is not one case of meaning us entering a permanent Sabbath rest.
This means that the Sabbath Day in the NT is a day, not a permanent fixture.
As far as Hebrews is concerned, we are not talking about a Sabbath day but a Sabbath rest which every believer enters into. In Hebrews 4:9 it says….So, then, there remains a Sabbath rest to the people of God. This Sabbath rest in Greek is a repose of Christianity and it is something that we enter into.
You don’t enter into a Sabbath Day. You observe it.
The previous chapter of Hebrews explains this rest using Moses and the children of Israel as an example. They spent 40 years in the wilderness and as a result did not enter into God’s rest in the Promised Land because of their unbelief.
Belief or unbelief will not and does not make any difference to the keeping of the Sabbath (seventh) day so it is obvious that Hebrews does not refer to the Sabbath (seventh) day.
In Hebrews 4:1 it says….Therefore, let us fear lest perhaps a promise having been left to enter into His rest, any of you may seem to come short.
The Hebrews rest was a promise, not a command and it talks about coming short of it as the Children of Israel did. One does not come short of a Sabbath day because there is no mention anywhere in scripture of coming short of a Sabbath day.
A believer can fall short of entering into God’s rest by continuing in their own works, not by meeting on Sunday. When you do not acknowledge his Lordship in your life and allow him to be Lord of all, you do not enter into rest. That means whether you meet on Saturday or Sunday, you are striving to please God (or your church or church leadership).
And just to throw a spanner in the works, the New Testament Church met every day, not one day a week.
Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them,...
Mark 16:9 Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
I am WELS Luthern, we don't consider Sunday as the Sabbath, However we follow the teachings of scripture which is to gather together (the assembly of the Church) on Sunday as it is the day the Lord was resurrected. The Sabbath is the seventh day on which God rested from His creation.
Our rest is in the Lord. It was the Apostles who we observe and they decided by the will of God to gather together on Sunday, but this has nothing to do with the Sabbath day.
Mark 16:9 Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
I am WELS Luthern, we don't consider Sunday as the Sabbath, However we follow the teachings of scripture which is to gather together (the assembly of the Church) on Sunday as it is the day the Lord was resurrected. The Sabbath is the seventh day on which God rested from His creation.
Our rest is in the Lord. It was the Apostles who we observe and they decided by the will of God to gather together on Sunday, but this has nothing to do with the Sabbath day.
hmm sources hmm i wonder if the sources you use that you belong to that church or agree 100% with everything hmmm hmm just a thought hmm i am neither please try again hmmm
Do you believe that Jesus is michale hmm i dont
lets stick with the Op shall we by doing that i dont know what is the gain hmmm
o yeah i am not SDA hmm
Do you believe that Jesus is michale hmm i dont
lets stick with the Op shall we by doing that i dont know what is the gain hmmm
o yeah i am not SDA hmm
I don't know the time but it does say the first day which I presume would be the morning time as the evening time is not day.
You may like this:The New Testament and the first Day of the week
You may like this:The New Testament and the first Day of the week
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i am sorry my friend i am done with you allyou will get is 
God said, "Love your enemies".
Satan is God's enemy.
If God fulfills His own words, then God loves His enemy, Satan.
There is never a justification for hatred and those who propose it. It is wrong to justify hatred because one feels that God must hate Satan and that since we are to be as God, then we are to hate our enemies, when it was Jesus Christ who said, "Love your enemies".
So you, Daniel, ought to be mad at yourself for totally disavowing God's own words to justify hating people.