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Hizikyah

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no apology, then i suppose.

again, you accuse me of defending the Catholic Church.
GET THE PROOF. right away, please.

so understanding who is identified as Mystery Babylon the Great ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE...equates with defending the Catholic Church?

what you are doing is

1) mishandling scripture by not correctly identifying WHAT CITY/ENTITY GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF said was Mystery Babylon
2) you dishonor God by not studying and or believing His Word
3) instead of discussing the Catholic Church on its own lack of merit (theres plenty)...you USE GODS WORD and MISUSE IT to MISIDENTIFY the Harlot.

the great irony is, it is you who is most closely allied with any artifact of the Great Whore.
and oddly enough, she appears to be alive and well again.

in the future, do not use Gods Word to further your egotistical presumptions about things you do not understand.

now go get the proof where i defend the Catholic Church by knowing the identity of Mystery Babylon.

post ten million pictures of the Vatican if you want to - it doesn't make it the Great Whore of Revelation.

if you want help identifying her - FROM THE HOLY WRIT, i am willing.
bottom line you have gone against Scripture many times been shown you are and you just go quiet for a bit.

you said in another thread, there is no 1000yr period spoken of in the Scriptures, so I posted 4 times when the Greek and English says 1000yr reign, I was soon asked to leave your thread because I was off topic (in a general sense), yet you had brought this up and questioned me about the same thing you are now.

"pictures, pictures, pictures".....there was more than pictures there.

you claim I am wrong about the city, no I look at the big picture, yes "from Yerusalem profaneness has gone out to al the world."

same religion different color kippah.

and yes you are defending them, by acting like they have no part in this endtime system of satan.

talk about project L.U.C.I.F.E.R and project blue beam, run and set up by jesuits, they are possible the biggest deceptions ever planned and the endtime doctrine you push is the jesuit doctrine to make those work on the "bible reading people". Most on this site are not ready to hear about those, yet i bet you know what they are....

I bet you wont touch those

so go ahead let the truth flow, show me verse by verse how my views are wrong and the proper interpretation. and please, not just one verse and all I say is wrong, break it down for me?
 

Hizikyah

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and your response is that we lay aside and apostle and harken to you?,,,,where is it written that "Hizikyah will be born,and in 2013 disprove what Paul taught and we should all follow you"????
I dont see a place where I said "follow me" ????? I see where I quoted the words of Yahshua....

I said follow the Messiah, Shaul did not contradict Yahshua, but many peoples understanding of Shaul's (Paul"s) writings contradict Yahshua's words.

Originally Posted by Hizikyah

trying to be justified by Law and being subject to Yahweh's Law are 2 different things.

tell me this who is your savior Messiah or Paul?

because Yahshua the Messiah says this about the Law of Yah:

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
 

iamsoandso

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here is the more direct position,,,,(Galatians 5;4),,,my favorite verse,,(check my profile),,,,,"CHRIST IS BECOME OF NO EFFECT TO YOU,WHOSOEVER OF YOU ARE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW;YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

Hizikyah

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here is the more direct position,,,,(Galatians 5;4),,,my favorite verse,,(check my profile),,,,,"CHRIST IS BECOME OF NO EFFECT TO YOU,WHOSOEVER OF YOU ARE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW;YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
So how do you interpret that verse with these?

Do you see contradiction or congruence?

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé

Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
 

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So how do you interpret that verse with these?

Do you see contradiction or congruence?

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé

Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
receive the "GRACE",,,or figure your own salvation,,,you are trapped "in the old law",,or you are free from it.,,,,,,

hizikyah,,,a woman(the church),,,in all of the old law never was told to bring a sacrifice to the temple,except for her "time",,,you a member of the church(woman),,,have your husband to bring forth the sacrifice(for his whole house),,,,,,your husband(Jesus) is the only one required by the law to bring forth sacrifice to the alter,,,you ,instead find that he has not brought forth a worthy sacrifice and seek to amend the thing you believe your husband did not deliver. who has fulfilled the law,is it not your husband?,,,,,
 

Hizikyah

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So how do you interpret that verse with these?

Do you see contradiction or congruence?

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé

Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
receive the "GRACE",,,or figure your own salvation,,,you are trapped "in the old law",,or you are free from it.,,,,,,

hizikyah,,,a woman(the church),,,in all of the old law never was told to bring a sacrifice to the temple,except for her "time",,,you a member of the church(woman),,,have your husband to bring forth the sacrifice(for his whole house),,,,,,your husband(Jesus) is the only one required by the law to bring forth sacrifice to the alter,,,you ,instead find that he has not brought forth a worthy sacrifice and seek to amend the thing you believe your husband did not deliver. who has fulfilled the law,is it not your husband?,,,,,
hmm, so you continue to make this about me.....

you did not even touch on those Scriptures......

I dont know what Messiah you follow, but the Messiah of Scripture, the Passover Lamb of Yahweh says to follow Yahweh's Law, If you can find 1 single verse where He says not to then I will change my belief....

until them I have a number where He says TO follow them:

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

Yahchanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:20-30, ""For I say to you: Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will certainly not enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment; But I say to you: Whoever is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment! Again, anyone who says; Raca! insulting your brother, will be in danger of the Sanhedrin, but whoever says: Nabel! desiring them to fall away, will be in danger of the fire of Gehenna. Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there you remember that your brother has something against you; Leave your gift there before the altar, and go first and be reconciled with your brother; then come and offer your gift. Settle a controversy with your accuser quickly, before he gets you into court; or your adversary may deliver you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be put into prison. Truly I say to you: You will never come out of there until you have paid the last penny. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not commit adultery; But I say to you: Whoever looks on a woman with lust for her, has already committed ladultery with her in his heart. So if your right eye causes you to offend; sin, gouge it out and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna. Or if your right hand causes you to offend, cut it off and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna."
 

iamsoandso

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hmm, so you continue to make this about me.....

you did not even touch on those Scriptures......

I dont know what Messiah you follow, but the Messiah of Scripture, the Passover Lamb of Yahweh says to follow Yahweh's Law, If you can find 1 single verse where He says not to then I will change my belief....

until them I have a number where He says TO follow them:

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

Yahchanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:20-30, ""For I say to you: Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will certainly not enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment; But I say to you: Whoever is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment! Again, anyone who says; Raca! insulting your brother, will be in danger of the Sanhedrin, but whoever says: Nabel! desiring them to fall away, will be in danger of the fire of Gehenna. Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there you remember that your brother has something against you; Leave your gift there before the altar, and go first and be reconciled with your brother; then come and offer your gift. Settle a controversy with your accuser quickly, before he gets you into court; or your adversary may deliver you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be put into prison. Truly I say to you: You will never come out of there until you have paid the last penny. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not commit adultery; But I say to you: Whoever looks on a woman with lust for her, has already committed ladultery with her in his heart. So if your right eye causes you to offend; sin, gouge it out and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna. Or if your right hand causes you to offend, cut it off and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna."
(John 10;30),,"i and father are one",,,,,,
 

Hizikyah

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hmm, so you continue to make this about me.....

you did not even touch on those Scriptures......

I dont know what Messiah you follow, but the Messiah of Scripture, the Passover Lamb of Yahweh says to follow Yahweh's Law, If you can find 1 single verse where He says not to then I will change my belief....

until them I have a number where He says TO follow them:

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

Yahchanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:20-30, ""For I say to you: Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will certainly not enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment; But I say to you: Whoever is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment! Again, anyone who says; Raca! insulting your brother, will be in danger of the Sanhedrin, but whoever says: Nabel! desiring them to fall away, will be in danger of the fire of Gehenna. Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there you remember that your brother has something against you; Leave your gift there before the altar, and go first and be reconciled with your brother; then come and offer your gift. Settle a controversy with your accuser quickly, before he gets you into court; or your adversary may deliver you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be put into prison. Truly I say to you: You will never come out of there until you have paid the last penny. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not commit adultery; But I say to you: Whoever looks on a woman with lust for her, has already committed ladultery with her in his heart. So if your right eye causes you to offend; sin, gouge it out and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna. Or if your right hand causes you to offend, cut it off and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna."
(John 10;30),,"i and father are one",,,,,,
this is true (also you still ignored the Scriptures I posted....)

Mattithyah 22:37, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."

1 Corinthians 2:9, "But as it is written: Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the mind of man the things which Yahweh has prepared for those who love Him."

Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Deuteronomy 10:12-13, "And now, O Israyl, what does Yahweh your Father require of you, but to reverence Yahweh your Father by walking in all His ways, by loving Him, by serving Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul. By keeping the Laws of Yahweh, with His statutes, which I command you this day, so that you may be blessed?"

1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yahweh: When we love Yahweh by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of Yahweh: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."
 
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It will never end :confused:


Not until Christ comes for the elect. If we can't get along now, how are we going to get along then? :(

Bloodshed in the clouds:mad:??????
 
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this is true (also you still ignored the Scriptures I posted....)

Mattithyah 22:37, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."

1 Corinthians 2:9, "But as it is written: Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the mind of man the things which Yahweh has prepared for those who love Him."

Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Deuteronomy 10:12-13, "And now, O Israyl, what does Yahweh your Father require of you, but to reverence Yahweh your Father by walking in all His ways, by loving Him, by serving Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul. By keeping the Laws of Yahweh, with His statutes, which I command you this day, so that you may be blessed?"

1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yahweh: When we love Yahweh by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of Yahweh: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."
ok,,lets pretend i copied and pasted the new testament in response to the scriptures you have posted,,,,,,,(the new testament copied and posted=just pretend),,,,,,,,now lets go back to Galatians 5;4,,,"Christ is become of no effect to you,"whosoever of you are justified by the law",,,,,"YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE",,,,

you are still stuck on saying why you think paul should have not said galation's 5;4,,,,,,,you are not explaining why he did,,,,,,,,,explain why he said that if you seek to justify your own self by the law "you are fallen from grace",,,,,,,,if you can go back to where i stated this verse and address the matter i will address the many post you have copied and pasted,across the next several days,,,,,,
 

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ok,,lets pretend i copied and pasted the new testament in response to the scriptures you have posted,,,,,,,(the new testament copied and posted=just pretend),,,,,,,,now lets go back to Galatians 5;4,,,"Christ is become of no effect to you,"whosoever of you are justified by the law",,,,,"YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE",,,,

you are still stuck on saying why you think paul should have not said galation's 5;4,,,,,,,you are not explaining why he did,,,,,,,,,explain why he said that if you seek to justify your own self by the law "you are fallen from grace",,,,,,,,if you can go back to where i stated this verse and address the matter i will address the many post you have copied and pasted,across the next several days,,,,,,
so are the Scriptures any less true if the are copied and pasted? Or do you prefer nonScriptual answers? because I dont have those.

Galatians 5:4 is valid and true, those that are trying to be justified by their own works will fall short, none has perfect works, so we all need mercy, and that came by the way of Yahshua the Messiah and His shed blood.

No I am posting Scriptures to show obedience to Yahweh's Law is valid, after all it says this many times in the "NT"

SO i want to ask, do you think all those verses contradict with Gal 5:4 or is there a place for obedience to Yahweh's Law in modern times?

If there is no place for Yahweh's Law then what do all these verse mean? If there is a place how do you reconcile that with Gal 5:4.

Personally I believe there is a place and it is not in contradiction with Gal 5:4.
 

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so are the Scriptures any less true if the are copied and pasted? Or do you prefer nonScriptual answers? because I dont have those.

Galatians 5:4 is valid and true, those that are trying to be justified by their own works will fall short, none has perfect works, so we all need mercy, and that came by the way of Yahshua the Messiah and His shed blood.

john 5;39 "search ye the scriptures,,,,ect.,,,,,,,,,(they are they that testify me) ,,,,,,,,,,are they the "instruction book for you and me",,,or are they the words written to Jesus for him to acomplish????,,,
No I am posting Scriptures to show obedience to Yahweh's Law is valid, after all it says this many times in the "NT"

SO i want to ask, do you think all those verses contradict with Gal 5:4 or is there a place for obedience to Yahweh's Law in modern times?

If there is no place for Yahweh's Law then what do all these verse mean? If there is a place how do you reconcile that with Gal 5:4.

Personally I believe there is a place and it is not in contradiction with Gal 5:4.
john 5;39,,,,who was the scriptures written to???
 

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john 5;39,,,,who was the scriptures written to???
you continually ignore what I say then post a verse

the Scriptures were written for all mankind to read, not all will read them tho.

those words were spoken to the pharisees, for the Scriptures prophesied about Yahshua and He was there fulfilling them and yet the main line religion rejected this truth.

I find a similar likeness today in the rejection of Scriptures that call for obedience and the celebration of pagan holidays because one feels like doing them.

will you give me a reply to my prior posts? If not I dont see the point of us talking, because it seems you ignore all I say.
 

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you continually ignore what I say then post a verse

the Scriptures were written for all mankind to read, not all will read them tho.

those words were spoken to the pharisees, for the Scriptures prophesied about Yahshua and He was there fulfilling them and yet the main line religion rejected this truth.

I find a similar likeness today in the rejection of Scriptures that call for obedience and the celebration of pagan holidays because one feels like doing them.

will you give me a reply to my prior posts? If not I dont see the point of us talking, because it seems you ignore all I say.

not until you adress galations 5;4,,,
 

Hizikyah

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not until you adress galations 5;4,,,
I have more than once. Last time was 3 posts before you posted this...

Galatians 5:4 is valid and true, those that are trying to be justified by their own works will fall short, none has perfect works, so we all need mercy, and that came by the way of Yahshua the Messiah and His shed blood.

but this verse has nothing to do with listening to Yah, if that is your interpretation. then one could only be saved if they went against everything Yah said........satan would love that.
 
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hmm, so you continue to make this about me.....

you did not even touch on those Scriptures......

I dont know what Messiah you follow, but the Messiah of Scripture, the Passover Lamb of Yahweh says to follow Yahweh's Law, If you can find 1 single verse where He says not to then I will change my belief....

until them I have a number where He says TO follow them:

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

Yahchanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:20-30, ""For I say to you: Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will certainly not enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment; But I say to you: Whoever is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment! Again, anyone who says; Raca! insulting your brother, will be in danger of the Sanhedrin, but whoever says: Nabel! desiring them to fall away, will be in danger of the fire of Gehenna. Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there you remember that your brother has something against you; Leave your gift there before the altar, and go first and be reconciled with your brother; then come and offer your gift. Settle a controversy with your accuser quickly, before he gets you into court; or your adversary may deliver you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be put into prison. Truly I say to you: You will never come out of there until you have paid the last penny. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not commit adultery; But I say to you: Whoever looks on a woman with lust for her, has already committed ladultery with her in his heart. So if your right eye causes you to offend; sin, gouge it out and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna. Or if your right hand causes you to offend, cut it off and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna."
The time for the response surely tells whether one's answering or pushing an agenda.
It took me more than 5 minutes just to read your post and the bible verses you quoted. But then again I must be slow but they have been lightning quick.
 

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The time for the response surely tells whether one's answering or pushing an agenda.
It took me more than 5 minutes just to read your post and the bible verses you quoted. But then again I must be slow but they have been lightning quick.
praise Yahweh! I do copy and paste them, but none the less I have read them and have to put them together on a certain topic! Scripture is sooooo deep, it is awesome! praise Yahweh for His testimony!
 

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I have more than once. Last time was 3 posts before you posted this...

Galatians 5:4 is valid and true, those that are trying to be justified by their own works will fall short, none has perfect works, so we all need mercy, and that came by the way of Yahshua the Messiah and His shed blood.

but this verse has nothing to do with listening to Yah, if that is your interpretation. then one could only be saved if they went against everything Yah said........satan would love that.
you devided your response with the word,,,,"but",,,now all there is ,is to chose the side your on,,,,,,,p.s. i like how you chose a different translation from mine,,,,,,,,
 

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you devided your response with the word,,,,"but",,,now all there is ,is to chose the side your on,,,,,,,p.s. i like how you chose a different translation from mine,,,,,,,,
yep, there are hundreds of translations....

and I did not know using but was prohibited? so let me guess I wont get an answer on my prior posts now? even tho you said you would reply after I spoke on Gal 5:4......

ps, the "but" used was not in oppisition or contradiction to the prior point concerning Gal 5:4