What is the unpardonable sin ?

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hello brothers and sisters my question that is above in the title box. Can a Christian do this by not knowing. Is it a thought in the mind ? I have been a Christian since I was a little boy. I accepted Jesus in my younger years and I still accept Jesus now. I have just fallen away and disobeyed him many times. I have bad thoughts evil thoughts about Christ I know it is not of God I am been attacked all the time. I was a preacher when I was 16. I am now getting into the word. Has anyone out their have a revelation of this for me ? maybe I have grieve the Holy spirit at times I have repented of this any answers ?
 
hello brothers and sisters my question that is above in the title box. Can a Christian do this by not knowing. Is it a thought in the mind ? I have been a Christian since I was a little boy. I accepted Jesus in my younger years and I still accept Jesus now. I have just fallen away and disobeyed him many times. I have bad thoughts evil thoughts about Christ I know it is not of God I am been attacked all the time. I was a preacher when I was 16. I am now getting into the word. Has anyone out their have a revelation of this for me ? maybe I have grieve the Holy spirit at times I have repented of this any answers ?

Luke 22:31
“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat.

Luke 8:13
Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.

Matthew 13:21
But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away.

Matthew 26:31
[ Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial ] Then Jesus told them, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me, for it is written: “‘I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’
Matthew 12:11
He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?

Matthew 26:61
and declared, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’”

Mark 14:58
“We heard him say, ‘I will destroy this temple made with human hands and in three days will build another, not made with hands.’”

1 Corinthians 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?

1 Corinthians 15:40
There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another.

2 Corinthians 5:1
For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.

2 Peter 1:13
I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body,





Matthew 7:24
[ The Wise and Foolish Builders ] “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.

Matthew 7:25
The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock.

Matthew 16:18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

1 Corinthians 10:4
and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
 
Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
Heb 10:29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know Him who said, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord. And again, "THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE."
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Wilfully returning to a life of sin after being converted.
 
hello brothers and sisters my question that is above in the title box. Can a Christian do this by not knowing. Is it a thought in the mind ? I have been a Christian since I was a little boy. I accepted Jesus in my younger years and I still accept Jesus now. I have just fallen away and disobeyed him many times. I have bad thoughts evil thoughts about Christ I know it is not of God I am been attacked all the time. I was a preacher when I was 16. I am now getting into the word. Has anyone out their have a revelation of this for me ? maybe I have grieve the Holy spirit at times I have repented of this any answers ?
As they say "pride goes before a fall." A preacher when you were 16? That is something, and probably far too much for anyone to cope with in their immature years.

Check out Peter who denied Christ three times. Denying Christ under temptation (i.e. being faithless) is somewhat different from disowning Christ. 2Ti 2:12.

Because of your youth it seems more than likely you were faithless, but have yet to disown Christ.
 
As they say "pride goes before a fall." A preacher when you were 16? That is something, and probably far too much for anyone to cope with in their immature years.

Check out Peter who denied Christ three times. Denying Christ under temptation (i.e. being faithless) is somewhat different from disowning Christ. 2Ti 2:12.

Because of your youth it seems more than likely you were faithless, but have yet to disown Christ.

Tit 1:5 For this reason I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking, and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you—

Word for elder:

G4245
πρεσβύτερος
presbuteros
pres-boo'-ter-os
Comparative of πρέσβυς presbus (elderly); older; as noun, a senior; specifically an Israelite Sanhedrist (also figuratively, member of the celestial council) or Christian “presbyter”: - elder (-est), old.

1Ti 3:1 This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work.
1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach;
1Ti 3:3 not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous;
1Ti 3:4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence
1Ti 3:5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?);
1Ti 3:6 not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil.

word for novice:

G3504
νεόφυτος
neophutos
neh-of'-oo-tos
From G3501 and a derivative of G5453; newly planted, that is, (figuratively) a young convert (“neophyte”): - novice.
 
The sin against the Holy Spirit was during the earthly ministry of Christ in that the signs & wonders were "the kingdom of God" has come upon you. During the ministry of His little flock as well, they were preaching a message call of the kingdom to Israel, who were to be a vehicle of God, for the blessing of all people in the Earth. There is a reason there were 12 apostles, who were given a kingdom, to sit on twelve thrones, etc.

As for you and your circumstance, when you trusted in Christ and what He did for you on that cross, His completed work for the payment of all your sins, past present & future, before you were born or confessed "some" of them He paid for them, removed them, reconciled you to God, so God could be gracious unto you, have mercy on you and call you through His Son to receive forgiveness... back when you trusted this, and when yiu believed this, you were saved, sealed, made righteous & justified, made alive to God as a new creature. What you are/have been experiencing is not walking in your identity before God. You are being victimized by your lack of understanding who you are, how God views you & the nature of sin that still dwells in your body of death. Our hope is the redemption of our bodies, this flesh we are in is dead to God, but can be animated by an influence of the old man, who has been made subject to vanity so that sin csn be condemned in the flesh.

Examine yourself, do you love God & believe His testimony about His Son, "whom He delivered for our offences and raised for our justification" (Rm 4:25 kjv, oh & 4:5 is good) for the forgiveness of all your sins? That is the one & only requirement God has for us and our salvation, soul salvation.

Jesus is our righteousness, we have access by the faith OF Him. When we are unfaithful, He remains faithful. His grace is sufficient for you, His strength is made perfect in weakness. God loves you in His Son. Read Rm 8:1, Eph 1:13-14, Gal 2:20, 2 Cor 5:14-21 kjv please, be comforted by the power of God, that your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men... not that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy, for by faith you stand- the faith of Christ.

2 Thess 5:24 Faithful is He that calleth you, who also will do it.

Stand, on the grace of God. Stand, by the faith of Christ. Stand, by the gospel of your salvation (Eph 2:8 kjv) Be blessed in the new year & the rest of time here, be an ambassador of Christ, that is our high calling.
 
The sin against the Holy Spirit was during the earthly ministry of Christ in that the signs & wonders were "the kingdom of God" has come upon you. During the ministry of His little flock as well, they were preaching a message call of the kingdom to Israel, who were to be a vehicle of God, for the blessing of all people in the Earth. There is a reason there were 12 apostles, who were given a kingdom, to sit on twelve thrones, etc.

I should add to that;


This is the dispensation of the grace of God toward all men, neither Jew nor Greek, but a call is sent out to all men, (Acts 17:30-31), the gospel of the grace of God, this is a time of the ministry of reconciliation.

Rm 4:5 kjv

The new man, the creature God is currently forming, is dead to sin. There are two natures, try to understand this and "come unto the knowledge of the truth"
 
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Its written what it is. From what I read, it has to do with the Elect, and their role in end time events, the trials that will take place when the Holy Spirit speaks through them ( an example of it took place in Acts 2 ) .

If you want to talk in the Chat room about it in detail ;we can list all the scriptures and read all about it from there.

If you don't know about that trial they have on an individual basis, or when that takes place, or why, or who the Elect are, you certainly aren't even at the point where you are familiar enough with God's words, and what they teach about this in detail.
 
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"faith to faith", this term is about eternal purpose, promise & love within God before creation. The Father invests in the Son and the Son trusts in the Father. The Holy Spirit glorifies & magnifies the truth. This Holy redemptive love makes grace a living reality in the everlasting promise of life for "Mine elect", it was Christ who was predestinated and the promise was the creation of the gift of God "eternal life"-

Christ is the "Elect" one decreed/ordained. We are the called "of" Christ, mankind has an election of function in God's plan, in Christ there are bodies of elect, for inheritances. We have been predetermined in Christ to vocations in the household of God. There are "houses", or church positions if you will, of distinct saints down through time and to come.
 
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[h=2]What is the unpardonable sin ?
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The term "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" pretty much defines itself and needs little speculation.

It is "speaking evil of the Holy Spirit" or "defaming the Holy Spirit"
 
hello brothers and sisters my question that is above in the title box. Can a Christian do this by not knowing. Is it a thought in the mind ? I have been a Christian since I was a little boy. I accepted Jesus in my younger years and I still accept Jesus now. I have just fallen away and disobeyed him many times. I have bad thoughts evil thoughts about Christ I know it is not of God I am been attacked all the time. I was a preacher when I was 16. I am now getting into the word. Has anyone out their have a revelation of this for me ? maybe I have grieve the Holy spirit at times I have repented of this any answers ?

The unpardonable sin is the act of applying the works of Christ to the power of the devil, instead of the Holy Spirit. When the heretical Pharisees applied this false statement and lie unto the Son Of God he rebuked them by the statement that blasphemy against the Holy spirit shall not be forgiven in this world or the next. This ultimately is found under the banner of unbelief for to reject the works of Jesus and dismiss them and or attribute it to the power of Satan is after all unbelief and a statement of denial.