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There is a difference than what Jesus did and what you are doing though. Jesus was harsh on the Pharisees because they claimed to believe and follow God, but clearly didn't. Same with the Jews. He isn't claiming to follow God and just believes something different then you. The goal should be to show him the truth not condemn him. If a brother leaves your church do you tell him he is going to hell or do you try to get him back? You can tell someone they are wrong, and TEACH them, without condemning them. Jesus taught everyone he could, and only after attempting to teach did he condemn. I understand I am less experienced then you, but if our goal is to bear fruit, going around preaching damnation is not how to do it.
Never mind, it is pointless!! You have to have ears to hear or the Lord drawing you.
There are people here who do want to learn, this is pointless and a christian site
Why would athiest want to hang out here is to pass time apparently.
If you aren't interested in knowing the Lord, don't come back
I am done with questions for you
There are people here who do want to learn, this is pointless and a christian site
Why would athiest want to hang out here is to pass time apparently.
If you aren't interested in knowing the Lord, don't come back
I am done with questions for you
Wow, so you provide no evidence for your claims apart from circular reasoning and the special pleading fallacy also shows up too (everything MUST be created.... Oh... Except my god who's been there forever) See the contradiction there?
Also it's falsely asserted in this thread that because god isn't accepted as the answer then we automatically believe the Big Bang Theory.
After giving baseless assertions, faulty logic, no evidence and basically no answers... You then have the nerve to get frustrated and close the discussion? Wow
Also it's falsely asserted in this thread that because god isn't accepted as the answer then we automatically believe the Big Bang Theory.
After giving baseless assertions, faulty logic, no evidence and basically no answers... You then have the nerve to get frustrated and close the discussion? Wow
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....you also totally disregard all of my other evidence. And no matter what you have to agree that something has always been, or else one day the world just went poof. That was my point is that either way science or religion have faith that something had to always be here. Most of science thinks energy for the Big Bang. If you disagree, fine, but you still HAVE to believe something was always here. We think it was God. That wasn't a point to prove God all of my others, which again you have ignored, it was just to show that the concept of "you believe he was always there and that can't happen" is wrong because both science and faith think SOMETHING was always around.
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according to scripture there is, and with all the evidence I stated that says the bible is inspired, that is true.
Anyone who comes up with an answer to how the world was created ends up believing something was there from the beginning. The point I'm showing is that if you think about it, something had to always just be, or nothing would be.
Again that isn't proof of God I'm just showing you that it makes sense for something to always been.
Anyone who comes up with an answer to how the world was created ends up believing something was there from the beginning. The point I'm showing is that if you think about it, something had to always just be, or nothing would be.
Again that isn't proof of God I'm just showing you that it makes sense for something to always been.
Ok let's look at the prophecies.
Now to me a 'prophecy' is saying what will happen, when it will happen and how it will happen.
So give me somehing that is specific with events and times in the bible then give me the events and times of what actually happened.
I'm not interested in symbolism or something that needs interpretation. Because that won't work for me.
I'm not trying to say this to be awkward. But that is pretty much the standard of a prophecy I would need to consider looking into it, otherwise it won't hold my attention
Now to me a 'prophecy' is saying what will happen, when it will happen and how it will happen.
So give me somehing that is specific with events and times in the bible then give me the events and times of what actually happened.
I'm not interested in symbolism or something that needs interpretation. Because that won't work for me.
I'm not trying to say this to be awkward. But that is pretty much the standard of a prophecy I would need to consider looking into it, otherwise it won't hold my attention
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Also I'm not a history buff but I do know that how Tyre was destroyed by Alexander the Great was how the bible says it happened. Alexander basically took the old city on the mainland and built a bridge to get to the island city of Tyre.
Also I know this could only be done with God's help because it was not in Alexander's nature to work on getting to a city for a year (which is what he did with Tyre). He was very much a "gata attack quick go go go" kind of guy but he worked on this tiny little city for almost a whole year building a bridge out of the old city.
Also I know this could only be done with God's help because it was not in Alexander's nature to work on getting to a city for a year (which is what he did with Tyre). He was very much a "gata attack quick go go go" kind of guy but he worked on this tiny little city for almost a whole year building a bridge out of the old city.
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here is article describing the event:
Alexander the Great Conquered City via Sunken Sandbar
A couple things regarding the Ezekiel prophecy:
- It seems to be referencing Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon as author of Tyre's destruction, so how does Alexander's victory fulfill prophecy? Of course Babylon did lay siege to Tyre in 6th century BC (Tyre, Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
- Where does Ezekiel specifically mention a land bridge in the prophecy?
- Tyre was not completely destroyed, the sandbar shifted the currents along with dropping sea level changed the island into the peninsula it is today.
http://sophismata.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/tyre_332bc_tyre_today.jpg
Alexander the Great Conquered City via Sunken Sandbar
A couple things regarding the Ezekiel prophecy:
- It seems to be referencing Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon as author of Tyre's destruction, so how does Alexander's victory fulfill prophecy? Of course Babylon did lay siege to Tyre in 6th century BC (Tyre, Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
- Where does Ezekiel specifically mention a land bridge in the prophecy?
- Tyre was not completely destroyed, the sandbar shifted the currents along with dropping sea level changed the island into the peninsula it is today.
http://sophismata.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/tyre_332bc_tyre_today.jpg
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Its one of those duel prophecies but I do see how you won't accept that answer. After studying the bible you can see that almost, if not all, prophecies are referring to 2 things, some even 3. I've never seen one doing 4 but I really wouldn't be surprised haha. Also the Israel one alone is quite fascinating. Alexander is never mentioned by name, but his nation is very relevant.
What also did it for me was Daniel 7 but I cannot give as good as an explanation as I'd like. It is very symbolic, but very clear what they mean for a history buff, which again I am not. If someone can explain Daniel 7 to him It'd be really helpful!
And ancient tyre was destroyed. People made a new Tyre, but the original tyre is under water.
What also did it for me was Daniel 7 but I cannot give as good as an explanation as I'd like. It is very symbolic, but very clear what they mean for a history buff, which again I am not. If someone can explain Daniel 7 to him It'd be really helpful!
And ancient tyre was destroyed. People made a new Tyre, but the original tyre is under water.
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Also if you read revelations, a typical atheist would think it is a guy smoking a litttttlllee too much to handle, but after really studying it you see that they are symbols for things all throughout scripture. I don't think a man could write like that unless inspired! Again in the end there is no 100% proof, just a ton of evidence.