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damombomb

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Forgive me, fair maiden. I must protest and say that using the holy bible is not a good excuse for being rude.
I agree. But the bible and word is a good teaching tool, not just opinions
 
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I beg your pardon. To all of you cult members, false teachers, God mockers, and atheists:

If I have offended you by daring to speak God's truth to your faces and confronting satan's lies and attacks without benefit of a smile and a courtsey, I apologize. Now, when you all get your acts together and get saved, teach the truth and stop bad mouthing my God and Savior, we'll all get along just fine. Hope we're all good now.... ; )
 
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I beg your pardon. To all of you cult members, false teachers, God mockers, and atheists:

If I have offended you by daring to speak God's truth to your faces and confronting Satan's lies and attacks without benefit of a smile and a courtesy, I apologize. Now, when you all get your acts together and get saved, teach the truth and stop bad mouthing my God and Savior, we'll all get along just fine. Hope we're all good now.... ; )
Umm...

Major Jones? I don't disagree with you. When you told Dose of Reality that he'll be surprised in the afterlife, well... :eek: It's how you said it that made me reply to you in a defensive matter.

I'm not intentionally trying to piss you off. You know that, right?


Uh... if your apology was genuine, then yeah, we're good!! :cool:
God bless!
 
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Man!!!!
IF you have read the bible and you're asking these questions, then maybe you need someone to help you understand the bible. It's not about screening those pages in the bible. It's about meditating and understanding what you are reading.
The NIV Study bible is great with its interpretation for each verse.


How do you know God is omniscient?

How do you know God is eternal?

How do you know there are not other Gods?

If God is everywhere, does God take up space?

How do we know God is good? Is goodness an objective truth outside of God or is it arbitrary as in whatever God does is defined as good?

Thank you for considering these questions.
 
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Man!!!!
IF you have read the bible and you're asking these questions, then maybe you need someone to help you understand the bible. It's not about screening those pages in the bible. It's about meditating and understanding what you are reading.
The NIV Study bible is great with its interpretation for each verse.
Yes I have read the bible and yes actually I do have a NIV study bible (the notes were quite helpful)

That wasn't the point of my questions, I understand the bible does give answers and tells us all we need to know about the nature of God.
In essence I am asking the bigger question....How do we know what is written about God in the Bible is True??
 
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Why do people still refer to Yahweh as the lord? And why do the majority abide by a sabbath day created by a Byzantine Emperor?
 
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Question.

Have I got this right? People were building the Tower of Babel so they could go up into the heavens and see god?
 

damombomb

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Question.

Have I got this right? People were building the Tower of Babel so they could go up into the heavens and see god?
No they wanted to make a name for themselves
4And they said, Come, let us build us a city and a tower whose top reaches into the sky, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered over the whole earth.
 
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Question.

Have I got this right? People were building the Tower of Babel so they could go up into the heavens and see god?
It can be interpreted like that, also. Men wanting to conquer Heaven. I believe God didn`t like that, for the same reason He didn`t like that Adam and Eve wanted to reach knowledge, whithout humbleness and fear of God.
 
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Why do people still refer to Yahweh as the lord? And why do the majority abide by a sabbath day created by a Byzantine Emperor?
Unfortunately, those that believe in Yahweh, have failed to see that Yahweh is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thanks to that Byzantine Emperor, christianity has been recognised as a religion and christians have no longer been tortured. Also, Sunday, is in latin Dies Dominus aka, the day of the Lord, the day of God. Sunday is the day Jesus Christ has resurrected.
 

damombomb

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Why do people still refer to Yahweh as the lord? And why do the majority abide by a sabbath day created by a Byzantine Emperor?
I assume because that is his hebrew name.

Scriptures such as Romans 14:5-6 and Colossians 2:16 give Christians freedom to observe a special day, or to observe every day as special. God’s desire is that we worship and serve Him continually, every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday.



 
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Yes I have read the bible and yes actually I do have a NIV study bible (the notes were quite helpful)

That wasn't the point of my questions, I understand the bible does give answers and tells us all we need to know about the nature of God.
In essence I am asking the bigger question....How do we know what is written about God in the Bible is True??
I respond in my own name; I believe the Bible to be the word of God and that`s it.
All religions and myths deal with revelations (revelations are truths by excellence, by definition; they do not need empirical demonstration, like science does).
Besides religion, only in mathematics we have this kind of truths, apodictical truths - for example the truth that there is an infinity of numbers doesn`t need demonstration, it also can`t be demonstrated either).
For our ancestors, the simple fact of looking up to the sky was already a spiritual experience, a revelation (manifestation of sacrality, of the ultimate reality). Throughout history, people discovered (or it has been revealed to them) glimpses of God, they intuited Him, just like through introspection and intuition, people discovered mathematics; so we did not invented God, but people did invented gods, there is a difference here.
People invented idols and gods because they felt the need of concrete. But this was a big deception from the devil, who tries to get people away from focusing on the highness, on the ultimate reality, and get them to attached on the pleasures of this earthly world.
God, nonetheless, had mercy on us and satisfied our need for concrete by embracing the human condition and incarnate in Jesus Christ, so that we learn directly from Him how to lift ourselves to Heaven, in the true life.
Jesus Christ is the end of religions, He raised our relation with God to a whole other level. Jesus Christ promised that wherever two or three persons gather in His name, He will also be there; He is the founder of the church (ecclesia, community with God), a premiere in human history (except for the paradisiac state of Adam and Eve, before the fall).
I believe in the Bible because I believe Jesus Christ is the real life that all humans, in every corner of this world, wish for. The Bible is the revelation that we need, in order to know how to get back HOME.
 
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I respond in my own name; I believe the Bible to be the word of God and that`s it.
All religions and myths deal with revelations (revelations are truths by excellence, by definition; they do not need empirical demonstration, like science does).
Besides religion, only in mathematics we have this kind of truths, apodictical truths - for example the truth that there is an infinity of numbers doesn`t need demonstration, it also can`t be demonstrated either).
For our ancestors, the simple fact of looking up to the sky was already a spiritual experience, a revelation (manifestation of sacrality, of the ultimate reality). Throughout history, people discovered (or it has been revealed to them) glimpses of God, they intuited Him, just like through introspection and intuition, people discovered mathematics; so we did not invented God, but people did invented gods, there is a difference here.
People invented idols and gods because they felt the need of concrete. But this was a big deception from the devil, who tries to get people away from focusing on the highness, on the ultimate reality, and get them to attached on the pleasures of this earthly world.
I mostly agree with you, however, what is your reason for thinking your God was not invented like you think all the other gods were?


I believe in the Bible because I believe Jesus Christ is the real life that all humans, in every corner of this world, wish for. The Bible is the revelation that we need, in order to know how to get back HOME.
I see this as circular reasoning, the only reason you believe in Jesus is because the Bible revealed Him to you, therefore you can't say that you believe the Bible is true because you believe in Jesus.

please correct me if I misunderstood your argument here.
 
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I mostly agree with you, however, what is your reason for thinking your God was not invented like you think all the other gods were?
God is not my God, He is the existence itself and even more than that, or beyond that, just like He revealed to Moses (Exodus 3, 14)




I see this as circular reasoning, the only reason you believe in Jesus is because the Bible revealed Him to you, therefore you can't say that you believe the Bible is true because you believe in Jesus.

please correct me if I misunderstood your argument here.[/QUOTE]
 
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God is not my God, He is the existence itself and even more than that, or beyond that, just like He revealed to Moses (Exodus 3, 14)
Sorry I do realize that, let me put it this way.
For sake of argument, I am a muslim who believes Allah is the one true God and revealed Himself through the Quran
You believe Yahweh/Jesus is one true God that revealed Himself through the Bible.

How do you know THE GOD revealed Himself through Jesus and the Bible and not through Muhammad and the Quran ?
 
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I mostly agree with you, however, what is your reason for thinking your God was not invented like you think all the other gods were?

Sorry, I ment to say more in my previous post, but i accidentally pressed a wrong button.

So, like I said, God is not my God. God IS.
Even we, the christians are not exempted from turning God in what we want Him to be, under our own image, instead of trying to become more in His likeness.
I believe that God is best reflected and expressed in christianity.



I see this as circular reasoning, the only reason you believe in Jesus is because the Bible revealed Him to you, therefore you can't say that you believe the Bible is true because you believe in Jesus.

please correct me if I misunderstood your argument here.

So, Jesus Christ`s divinity has been, indeed, revealed by the Bible; but, his historically existence has also been atested.
 
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Sorry I do realize that, let me put it this way.
For sake of argument, I am a muslim who believes Allah is the one true God and revealed Himself through the Quran
You believe Yahweh/Jesus is one true God that revealed Himself through the Bible.

How do you know THE GOD revealed Himself through Jesus and the Bible and not through Muhammad and the Quran ?
Like I said with mathematics; we invented 1, 2, 3 etc. But we did not invent that 2+2=4; that, we discovered.
Religion has become throughout history more and more complex and Muhammad is a religious revolutionary; His revelation of one God is true. Like indians also have a god with three faces that is somehow like a prefiguration of the Saint Trinity. However, I believe that christianity is the best reflection of God, because of Jesus Christ. The other religions only reflect some aspects of the metaphisical reality. Of course that you may not agree with that if you were a muslim, and you would also lose your coherence if you did agree, but still remained a muslim.
I believe Moses not only wrote the words of God, but he also knew how to read God, unlike others that only got small parts of Him. Again, this is what I believe.
 
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So WHO'S brilliant idea was it to give these enemy of the cross, moronic, demoniacs a platform to mock God???? And what the crap were YOU THINKING????

And "WHY" are you WASTING YOUR TIME ON HEATHENS WHO WILL "NEVER" IN A BILLION YEARS LISTEN TO YOU???? ARE YOU ALL RETARDED??? Knock the dust off your feet and let them go on to hell....
 
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So WHO'S brilliant idea was it to give these enemy of the cross, moronic, demoniacs a platform to mock God???? And what the crap were YOU THINKING????

And "WHY" are you WASTING YOUR TIME ON HEATHENS WHO WILL "NEVER" IN A BILLION YEARS LISTEN TO YOU???? ARE YOU ALL RETARDED??? Knock the dust off your feet and let them go on to hell....
haha you are consistent at least, I do not mock God, I question his existence there is a difference.

I'll tell you what when I end up in hell and you are in heaven I will say , "you are right" but until then our ideas are on equal footing.
 

damombomb

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So WHO'S brilliant idea was it to give these enemy of the cross, moronic, demoniacs a platform to mock God???? And what the crap were YOU THINKING????

And "WHY" are you WASTING YOUR TIME ON HEATHENS WHO WILL "NEVER" IN A BILLION YEARS LISTEN TO YOU???? ARE YOU ALL RETARDED??? Knock the dust off your feet and let them go on to hell....
2 Tim 2:22-26 Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.