Genesis 4:7

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If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.(KJV)

What should have Cain done? What should have he offered?
 
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.(KJV)

What should have Cain done? What should have he offered?

He should have changed his bad attitude.
 
Genesis 4:3 "And in Process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord."

( I notice it was not his first fruits. Not the best of what he had. )


( The firstlings" are the best , the first of his flock offered to the Lord. Able did it God's way ( Deuteronomy 18:1-5 ) .
Abel gave a proper offering to the Lord. )

Cain kept back his best to himself, and gave only unneeded portion of his crop to God . Both Cain and Abel were the same age, matured at the same time, and were obligated at the same time to present their offerings to the Almighty Father.

Look up that in Deuteronomy..




Genesis 4:7 "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."

To correctly translate this from the Hebrew ;

"If you were honest, I would accept your offering." Where did Cain acquire all this anger, sin and dishonesty? Of course it was from his
real father Satan.
 
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But Genesis 4:5 says "[SUP] [/SUP]But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect." What should have he offered?

Because Deuteronomy 18:1-5, he held back what he had, it was not honest, therefore not acceptable. It was unacceptable.
 
Cain should have offered " the first" that is to say, "the best " of what he had. :

Deuteronomy 18:4


4 firstfruit also of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the first of the fleece of thy sheep, shalt thou give him.



Cain gave God his last: meaning not the best, certainly was not honest .


Genesis 4:3 "And in Process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord."

( I notice it was not his first fruits. Not the best of what he had. No first. )



Genesis 4:4 "And Abel he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:"
 
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Cain was talking with the Lord, never does it show he was talking to God. These are all the works of the Lord not of God.
 
I don´t know! But you can read in here:

Génesis 4:7


If thou doest well: Gen_19:21; 2Sa_24:23; 2Ki_8:28; Job_42:8; Pro_18:5; Ecc_8:12-13; Isa_3:10-11; Jer_6:20; Mal_1:8, Mal_1:10, Mal_1:13; Act_10:35; Rom_2:7-10, Rom_12:1; Rom_14:18, Rom_15:16; Eph_1:6; 1Ti_5:4; 1Pe_2:5
be accepted: or, have the excellency, Job_29:4; Pro_21:27; Heb_11:4
sin: Gen_4:8-13; Rom_7:8-9; Jam_1:15
unto thee: or, subject unto thee, Gen_3:16 *marg.
 
That is the GOSPEL

If yo do well, won't you be accepted?
God was trying to save cain from killing his brother

but like people of today,he did not listen to the gospel
 
REPENT! dont think like that
dont do that!
watch out!
you are going to kill yourself Cain!
Do right!
do right!
do right!

cain: Nah, I am once saved always saved.
famous last words
 
By oldhermit

II. The Sacrifices of Cain and Able.
A. “In the course of time,” Literally, “at the end of days;” What is the end of days suggested by the context? What would contextually mark the course of time?
1. Popular options
a. The end of a seven day period.
b. The anniversary of the end of creation. The problem with both of these theories is that they cannot be arrived from the contents of the context.
2. The only temporal indicator offered by the text is that of the time of harvest; thus, the course of time from one harvest to the next. We know this because of the type of sacrifice both men are offering. “And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. And Abel, he ALSO brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof.”
3. Both men are offering the offering of first-fruits, one of the flock and one of the earth. Both are legitimate sacrifices. Cain, being a tiller of the ground naturally offers the first-fruit of his crop. Being a keeper of the flock, Able offers his first-fruit of the flock. What implications can we generalize from Able offering up the fat portions of his sacrifice?
a. That the offering of sacrifice had already been regulated by both time and procedure.
* It was offered at the proper time - at the end of days.”
* There is no separation of the fat from the sacrifice. It was offered up as a whole sacrifice.
b. That sacrifices were a matter of instruction. How did they know to offer these sacrifices and how these sacrifices were to be offered in such a way that would be acceptable to the Lord? This instructed had to be revealed instruction. Even if they received the practice from their father Adam still had to have received it from the Lord.
c. This is not their first sacrifice.
d. The possibility that other types of sacrifices were also being offered that did not require the separation of the fat portions.
4. No indicators from the text that the sacrifice of Able had any connection to atonement or even contrition. In other words this is not a sin sacrifice.
a. The is no sprinkling of blood mentioned.
b. There is no removal of the intestines or the refuse mentioned.
This is a sacrifice of thanksgiving. Cain offered his first-fruits as a matter of thanksgiving. This is the nature if any first-fruit offering. The text says that Able ALSO of his first. Both men are offering the same sacrifice. Why then was Cain's sacrifice not accepted? This rejection seems to stem from Cain's relationship with his brother.

III. The Rejection of Cain's Sacrifice and the Murder of Able, 5-15.
A. His conversation with God, 6-7.
1. Cain's behavior is challenged. “If you do well, shall you not be accepted?
2. Cain has unresolved sin in his life that is renders his sacrifice unacceptable. “and if you do not well, sin lies at the door.
3. He needs to first confront and correct his sin problem And you shall be its desire, and you must rule over it.” His failure to do so will manifest itself in the murder of his brother.
4. Inappropriate response to correction – Anger, pouting, and self-pity. He accepts no responsibility for his behavior.
B. In Cain's conversation with Able he apparently rehearses the events and his conversation with God. From his response with Able, Able apparently sides with God and Cain kills him, 8.
C. Cain's second conversation with God, 9-10
1. “Where is Able your brother?”
2. “What have you done?”
God is not probing for information. He already knows Abel is dead. “The voice of your brother's blood cries unto me from the ground.” This is confrontation and rather that repenting, Cain lies and refuses to accept responsibility for his brother. God curses Cain even beyond the curse that was pronounced upon his father, 11-15.
1. His livelihood is taken away. “When you till the ground, it shall no longer yield unto you its strength.”
2. His home is taken away. “A fugitive and a wanderer shall you be in the earth.”
3. Even his fellowship with humanity is taken away. “Anyone that finds me shall slay me.” He has become a marked man. Every man is now his enemy.
4. All association with God was lost.
5. Cain settles in the land in Nod and his wife conceived and bore Enoch. Notice, the text does not say that Cain got his wife in Nod, only that when he went to Nod, his wife conceived. Cain was already married when he was driven out.
 
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.(KJV)

What should have Cain done? What should have he offered?

I assuming that Abel was sincere with his offering, he did it out of love to save the rest, that he gave up his very best of his flock, and which Cain did it to make himself look good.

Hebrews 11:4
By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.

Hebrews 12:24
to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

John 15:13
Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
John 10:15
just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.

John 13:37
Peter asked, “Lord, why can’t I follow you now? I will lay down my life for you.”
Mark 14:38
Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”

Matthew 6:2
“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
 
Heb. 11:4 NIV
By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.


Heb. 11:4 KJV
By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it (faith) he being dead yet speaketh.
 
Oh wow...i said genesis 1.4....then turn to 1 John 4 and it tells you why not to believe hebrews
 
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.(KJV)

What should have Cain done? What should have he offered?

Adam and Eve being parents of Cain and Abel surely communicated with both them concerning the coats of skin God had provided for their nakedness. Cain knew very well that this covering was supplied by the shedding of blood from the animal that supplied the goats of skin. Cain was never told that vegetables were sufficient for the covering of sin. After all, Adam, and Eve had tried that with fig leaves, and God didn't accept that either.

Cain could have bought an animal from Abel with the vegetation that he grew and then offered what is acceptable. He knew it, and rebelled against what he knew.
 
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Abel offered a offering of shed blood.
And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering
[GEN 4.4]


For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
[Lev 17.11]

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
[Heb 9.22]

God used skins of animals to cover Adam and Eve. God shed blood to cover them....
Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
[GEN 3.21]

Cain offered something he grew out of the ground and it was not accepted by God, because the fruit of the ground does not offer remission for sin, because it has no shedding of blood.
 
Adam and Eve being parents of Cain and Abel surely communicated with both them concerning the coats of skin God had provided for their nakedness. Cain knew very well that this covering was supplied by the shedding of blood from the animal that supplied the goats of skin. Cain was never told that vegetables were sufficient for the covering of sin. After all, Adam, and Eve had tried that with fig leaves, and God didn't accept that either.

Rediculous....The Lord God supplied them with coats. Why does everyone keep denying an entity that is not God administers the works of the scripture outside of genesis the first 7 days of creation.
 
Rediculous....The Lord God supplied them with coats. Why does everyone keep denying an entity that is not God administers the works of the scripture outside of genesis the first 7 days of creation.

Just like God sent His Son Jesus to make atonement/remission of sins for us. I don't see a difference. The post was about Cain. I never saw in the OP that we were discussing about the 6 days of creation. If you think that it's ridiculous to equate the shedding of blood to the acceptance of God, my heart yearns for your deliverance. This blood letting has always been substantial in the Christian beliefs, and is evident from the beginning.

Hebrews 9:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Romans 5:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

To atone means to cover, and remission means to vanish as time passes.
 
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