The one stat that devestates liberalism

[SonInMe]

Liberalism. The ideal that poverty exists because of either uncaring rich, selfish and greedy rich or the rich stealing from the poor. The gap between rich and poor is growing because we do not tax the rich enough. That the government program is there to serve the poor and make it more fair by redistributing wealth by government fiat, because as all liberals know..

the government cares and is there for poor people.

Well, lets look at how the government spends those taxes collected to ''help the poor"


The government spends 70% of tax dollars to get 30 percent to the poor.

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the government is getting richer and the poor are not getting much at all. The wealth gap is being caused by this government, in a recession, look at the increase in wages in the government..!!

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You are getting poorer and the government says it wants to help you..but what is it really doing? It helps itself and the heck with the poor!!

I have been saying this for years and now, the facts are in. What liberalism has said its for, its not only against it, what liberalism says it hates...IT IS!!

After reading those two articles, if you can still believe in the failed ideology of liberalism, please...

never debate it,

and never vote again.

 

[SonInMe]

The liberal applauds the amount of people getting assistance.

The conservative applauds the amount of people not needing assistance.

When asked why african americans have a 72% rate of illegitimacy, black leaders said racism. In 1940, when there was much more racism the rate was 19%, in 1965, 25% during all the racial tensions of this nation.

We are more liberal today than ever, and the one true voting block for democrats and liberals, the black community, has suffered the most from doing that.

 

[SonInMe]

Greece.

Detroit.

Homes of liberal thought and action...both bankrupt

 

[SonInMe]

In 1964 the poverty income level was 3000 dollars. 9 million americans lived under that level. 45 billion dollars was gathered by the government to give to them. 5000 dollars collected for each poor person...

each got 600 dollars....sad

 

[SonInMe]

Our national debt is about 17 trillion.

Since LBJ's Great Society we have spent 20 trillion on welfare programs

 

[wisebeardman]

We are more liberal today than ever, and the one true voting block for democrats and liberals, the black community, has suffered the most from doing that.

Lets not forget. those democrats were the ones who opposed civil rights, supported jim crow. and gave us the KKK.

 

[gb9]

I live near a collage town and I hear this all the time. so many young people are buying into the lie that rich are evil and government is good. they are being taught that if someone has something they don't have, that is unfair and they should be given part of it.

 

[Nautilus]

its hilarious...the reasons im a liberal has nothing to do with poor vs rich...because I dont care about that.

 

[gb9]

you may not, but a lot of people buy into class warfare.

 

[SonInMe]

I may be wrong but I believe its the reason some christians are liberal, they think its more compassionate. Clearly its not.

Since liberal ideals are implemented by government sanction and tax dollar, it seems the finances of liberalism must go hand in hand with its ideology.

I don't think it possible to be socially liberal and financially conservative. Without the money liberalism has no vehicle or legs.

You can't be the opposite either, social conservative and liberal financially. That's why I wasn't a fan of ''W''. Bush said all the right things but he tried to solve issues governmentally and that involves the spending of monies.

 

[ServantStrike]

Lets not forget. those democrats were the ones who opposed civil rights, supported jim crow. and gave us the KKK.

And the Republican party was founded on the premise of ending slavery.

If you want to discuss class warfare, no one who was concerned about it voted liberal until after welfare.



But the landscape has changed. Neither party in the American two party system can get things done, or can even nominate people who can both get things done and win an election.

 

[jimmydiggs]

But the landscape has changed. Neither party in the American two party system can get things done, or can even nominate people who can both get things done and win an election.

Just gonna leave this right hrrr.

 

[38miles]

But the landscape has changed. Neither party in the American two party system can get things done, or can even nominate people who can both get things done and win an election.

I so agree. Kingdom divided. It doesn't matter how good an idea or policy is, either side will shoot it down and attack it "on principle". America became a harlot for sale a very long time ago and that is the real reason why there is so much poverty in her heart. Judas is the model of capitalism...find something, anything you can make money off of, even if it is the Son of the Living God. Of course it's all achieved through her divorce from God. Oh, sorry, we're just "separated". Semantics.

 

[Nautilus]

I may be wrong but I believe its the reason some christians are liberal, they think its more compassionate. Clearly its not.

Since liberal ideals are implemented by government sanction and tax dollar, it seems the finances of liberalism must go hand in hand with its ideology.

I don't think it possible to be socially liberal and financially conservative. Without the money liberalism has no vehicle or legs.

You can't be the opposite either, social conservative and liberal financially. That's why I wasn't a fan of ''W''. Bush said all the right things but he tried to solve issues governmentally and that involves the spending of monies.

I will argue that one can be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I don't like the thought that people are abusing the system to live off money taken from my checks, its crap. Sure there are some people that need help/assistance like that, but the number f people abusing welfare right is too high. It would be great to cut off the freeloaders. I also dont count that as social. Socially liberal would be things like equal rights, civil liberties, stuff like that.

 

[Angela53510]

I am left of center politically, because that is just how Canadians are. We are very conservative fiscally, and as far as religion, we vary. I am mostly conservative as far as my Christianity, believing the Bible to be true.

However, once again I am puzzled as to why American politics, assumed to always be conservative, always appears in these forums??

1. It leaves out the rest of the world.
2. It assumes the American system is the only way to run a government
3. It assumes America is the center of the world.
4. It has nothing to do with God!

God is the center of the world, and anything that doesn't put God first is going to be in trouble. Which is pretty much the whole world, as near as I can tell.

 

[Nautilus]

I am left of center politically, because that is just how Canadians are. We are very conservative fiscally, and as far as religion, we vary. I am mostly conservative as far as my Christianity, believing the Bible to be true.

However, once again I am puzzled as to why American politics, assumed to always be conservative, always appears in these forums??

1. It leaves out the rest of the world.
2. It assumes the American system is the only way to run a government
3. It assumes America is the center of the world.
4. It has nothing to do with God!

God is the center of the world, and anything that doesn't put God first is going to be in trouble. Which is pretty much the whole world, as near as I can tell.

Did you ever consider that maybe the majority of frequent posters are american? You realize the flags arent accurate for everyone right? AND if you have such issues with Ameri-centric threads, then stop visiting them.

 

[Angela53510]

Actually, the founder of CC doesn't even live in North America. And the constant posts by Americans assuming America is all that counts when it comes to end times are what bother me, not Americans, or even the US itself. That is what I was referring to in my last post.

However, I did find one almost Canadian thread in the Singles Forum. Yep, it was talking about cold weather and how we have cornered the market on it! not exactly a thrilling revelation, but it was funny.

Besides, I owe it to Americans to explain to them that America is not the centre of the universe. I lived in the US for two years growing up and went to school there! That was a long time ago, but the attitude was exactly the same, except for a few very wise people. Americans are taught nothing about the world outside their borders, except to be threatened by it. They are not exposed to other cultures, which is very ethno-centric. In Canada, we have about 8 American TV channels as basic, and many more than can be watched. We watch American ads, read American magazines, and American Internet floods the Ethernet. We get a bit of exposure to British documentaries, but not much else.

I have quite a few Aussie Internet friends, and they are teaching me about that part of the world, which I have never been exposed to. I hope Americans and others will wake up and realize that there is more than one country in God's world! And how will they know if no one tells them!!?? LOL

 

[Elizabeth619]

Actually, the founder of CC doesn't even live in North America. And the constant posts by Americans assuming America is all that counts when it comes to end times are what bother me, not Americans, or even the US itself. That is what I was referring to in my last post.

However, I did find one almost Canadian thread in the Singles Forum. Yep, it was talking about cold weather and how we have cornered the market on it! not exactly a thrilling revelation, but it was funny.

Besides, I owe it to Americans to explain to them that America is not the centre of the universe. I lived in the US for two years growing up and went to school there! That was a long time ago, but the attitude was exactly the same, except for a few very wise people. Americans are taught nothing about the world outside their borders, except to be threatened by it. They are not exposed to other cultures, which is very ethno-centric. In Canada, we have about 8 American TV channels as basic, and many more than can be watched. We watch American ads, read American magazines, and American Internet floods the Ethernet. We get a bit of exposure to British documentaries, but not much else.

I have quite a few Aussie Internet friends, and they are teaching me about that part of the world, which I have never been exposed to. I hope Americans and others will wake up and realize that there is more than one country in God's world! And how will they know if no one tells them!!?? LOL

As an American it would be nice if people said Canada was the home of the antichrist every once in a while. :

 

[SonInMe]

I am left of center politically, because that is just how Canadians are. We are very conservative fiscally, and as far as religion, we vary. I am mostly conservative as far as my Christianity, believing the Bible to be true.

However, once again I am puzzled as to why American politics, assumed to always be conservative, always appears in these forums??

1. It leaves out the rest of the world.
2. It assumes the American system is the only way to run a government
3. It assumes America is the center of the world.
4. It has nothing to do with God!

God is the center of the world, and anything that doesn't put God first is going to be in trouble. Which is pretty much the whole world, as near as I can tell.

I addressed american politics and point of view because, I am an american and I was addressing american ideals. I do not live in any other country nor do I know their politics.

 

[Ugly]

However, once again I am puzzled as to why American politics, assumed to always be conservative, always appears in these forums??

Perhaps because its Americans starting the threads? And the site has a very large American population. And people are just making threads about what they know, and therefore an American wanting to talk about American politics is going to start a thread about American politics. Not to mention politics are a very sizable issue in the US.
Rather than complaining that the topics, by Americans, are always about American politics, why not complain at people from other countries for not starting threads about their own countries politics? How many threads have You started about Canadian politics, for example?

I've yet to understand why people complain about topics often being centered around what seems to the the largest geographical basis on the site. What else do you expect?