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I'm not sure how the Devil got in with an innocent statement on keeping an open mind... I'm still learning.. you're not? Keeping an open mind has nothing to do with Satan. I'm searching and seeking to follow Jesus and I assume you are doing the same. Just think one day soon we may be sitting across the banquet table in heaven like brother and sister. As far as I am concerned we should be playing for the same team.. Go Christians. Just because we may have differing opinions should not interfere with our salvation.
You may be right...but at the very least, maybe if we all start walking down the path in the text at the same time (i.e. each of us sharing our conclusions/opinions of each thought/point the writer is making before moving on to the next portion of text), we can see at which point(s) we all start to deviate onto different paths.
I dunno...it's just a suggestion. Maybe I'll try it and see if it blows up in my face lol.
I dunno...it's just a suggestion. Maybe I'll try it and see if it blows up in my face lol.
I really do get it and understand - my Bible is just a little bit bigger than yours because I love God I respect and want to do as He has commanded for me to do - So I still read OT and NT and because He said if you love me keep my commandments. I have to trust and obey my Lord. Not because obeying the law will save me but because I love Him and His law is a law of love. I can't keep it but Jesus did it for me and it shows me what sin is.
Honestly I think sometimes we are saying the same thing just in a different way.. I know when I talk to computer people they have their own language and I call it a thingamabob or a whatchamacallit because I just don't speak their language but somehow through the years of working with them and needing their help my computer is still running because we figured out how to communicate with each other. I am sure hoping we can do the same thing here.
Kudos and Praise God for someone so young to give his life to the Lord for a ministry - whatever it ends up being. So many young people today don't have any direction in their life forget about wanting to have anything to do with God.. Keep your eyes on Jesus and remember Daniel and his three Hebrew friends that were taken to Babylon. They were young and stood strong for God what a witness.
B
Here is an interesting verse I found in Nehemiah
Ch9 vs 13
13 “You came down on Mount Sinai; you spoke to them from heaven. You gave them regulations and laws that are just and right, and decrees and commands that are good.14 You made known to them your holy Sabbath and gave them commands, decrees and laws through your servant Moses.
Interesting God made known his holy Sabbath to Israel on Mt Sinai. Now if God MADE Known his Sabbath then this would suggest no-one had known of it before. Thus strengthening the argument as to why there is no Command in Genesis to keep the Sabbath. In other words a gift to Israel to set it apart from all other nations (Gentile!) Exodus 31 v13.
Just a thought...
Ch9 vs 13
13 “You came down on Mount Sinai; you spoke to them from heaven. You gave them regulations and laws that are just and right, and decrees and commands that are good.14 You made known to them your holy Sabbath and gave them commands, decrees and laws through your servant Moses.
Interesting God made known his holy Sabbath to Israel on Mt Sinai. Now if God MADE Known his Sabbath then this would suggest no-one had known of it before. Thus strengthening the argument as to why there is no Command in Genesis to keep the Sabbath. In other words a gift to Israel to set it apart from all other nations (Gentile!) Exodus 31 v13.
Just a thought...
D
Yes, I am learning but we do not need to follow satan or his false teachers to learn. Paul warned us to not follow false teaching. He called it ..A little leaven in the dough (Gal. 5:9). Yet you claim satan has nothing to do with an open mind. I bet Eve would disagree with you as she had an open mind to listen to the twisted logic that went against the commands of God.
Oh, make no mistake about it!
The whole bible is the word of God.
The OT is anything but a stranger to me.
What I am saying is that I understand the whole Bible in the light of the NT.
And that is my focus regarding the whole Bible.
Yes, we are saying much the same thing.
But I will always say it in the terms used by the NT, because it is the revelation spoken by the Son
in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers.
The whole bible is the word of God.
The OT is anything but a stranger to me.
What I am saying is that I understand the whole Bible in the light of the NT.
And that is my focus regarding the whole Bible.
Yes, we are saying much the same thing.
But I will always say it in the terms used by the NT, because it is the revelation spoken by the Son
in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers.
I don't think this is going to do a thing to settle the differences of understanding God expressed here. We disagree on who Israel is in God's eyes, on how God sees the Jewish race and how God used them, on what is meant by the scriptures speaking against covenants scripture tells of, are they lasting promises or not, on why we have divided the scriptures in two and what does the OT mean to our life in Christ, on what did Christ change and what remains the same-----our differences are very great.
There seems to be a great turning point in our churches that this division in understanding should come up.
Someone told me that it is like when science found the earth was round when all churches said when God told of four corners, that meant it was flat. So do we believe science or God, or do we say this new learning points to scripture truth. Lots of history of the time of Paul has been uncovered that better explains Paul's words as our scholars have explained it. So what do we believe?
There seems to be a great turning point in our churches that this division in understanding should come up.
Someone told me that it is like when science found the earth was round when all churches said when God told of four corners, that meant it was flat. So do we believe science or God, or do we say this new learning points to scripture truth. Lots of history of the time of Paul has been uncovered that better explains Paul's words as our scholars have explained it. So what do we believe?
Be interesting to hear your views not sure I will agree but interesting to hear them anyway. 
I keep saying these things are not right!! I am told that is not believing the bible as it plainly states!! No one is listening!!
You say the law of Moses has been cancelled, and you say it is plainly said that the law of Moses is the commandments. God gave the commandments, how is this not saying to disregard God. You say that Paul says that we are under the new covenant, and being under the new covenant means that all the promises that God gave in the old has been done away with, all of them. How is this not saying that Christ did away with what God told us? You say that if history has found new facts about what people were talking about, about what they were saying the law of Moses was, it must be done away with because you believe your interpretation of what the law of Moses meant to Paul is too right to have anything, any writing from those days say that anything you think it means could possibly be wrong in any way. Am I misunderstanding the position of the church? I don't think so.
You say the law of Moses has been cancelled, and you say it is plainly said that the law of Moses is the commandments. God gave the commandments, how is this not saying to disregard God. You say that Paul says that we are under the new covenant, and being under the new covenant means that all the promises that God gave in the old has been done away with, all of them. How is this not saying that Christ did away with what God told us? You say that if history has found new facts about what people were talking about, about what they were saying the law of Moses was, it must be done away with because you believe your interpretation of what the law of Moses meant to Paul is too right to have anything, any writing from those days say that anything you think it means could possibly be wrong in any way. Am I misunderstanding the position of the church? I don't think so.
K
This is the prime example why you are blinded to truth. Instead of arguing where you have no understanding, pray to see the truth. Theos and Christos are also dedicated to other gods. That is not the name of the Creator.
"Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek Your Name O Yahúweh ... That men may know that You Whose Name alone is Yahúweh , are the Most High over all the earth," Psalm 83:16-18.
"Fill their faces with shame, that they may seek Your Name O Yahúweh ... That men may know that You Whose Name alone is Yahúweh , are the Most High over all the earth," Psalm 83:16-18.