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OK, what did Christ mean by this?
Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
And then explain this...
Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
Mat 19:18 He said to Him, "Which ones?" Jesus said, " 'YOU SHALL NOT MURDER,' 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,' 'YOU SHALL NOT STEAL,' 'YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,'
Mat 19:19 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER,' and, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' "
And this...
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
And then explain this...
Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
Mat 19:18 He said to Him, "Which ones?" Jesus said, " 'YOU SHALL NOT MURDER,' 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,' 'YOU SHALL NOT STEAL,' 'YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,'
Mat 19:19 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER,' and, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' "
And this...
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.
Inquiring minds want to know.
OK, I am still waiting for you to explain why Christ did not mean what He said here...
Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
Mat 19:18 He said to Him, "Which ones?" Jesus said, " 'YOU SHALL NOT MURDER,' 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,' 'YOU SHALL NOT STEAL,' 'YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,'
Mat 19:19 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER,' and, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' "
Mat 19:17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
Mat 19:18 He said to Him, "Which ones?" Jesus said, " 'YOU SHALL NOT MURDER,' 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,' 'YOU SHALL NOT STEAL,' 'YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,'
Mat 19:19 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER,' and, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' "
When we obey Jesus Christ, Yeshua, we are obeying the commandments. If you teach against obeying the commandments, then you may explain it to the Judge come that day, but do not teach anyone of Yahweh's children against the teachings of Yeshua..
Yes it is forgiveable, but you will live eternally with the knowledge of what you are doing.
Yes it is forgiveable, but you will live eternally with the knowledge of what you are doing.
Well, let's just see who is speaking truth here...
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
So no one has ever seen the Father or heard His voice.
Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
Here we see that the LORD spoke to Moses face to face.
Exo 33:18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.
Exo 33:19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.
Exo 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
Exo 33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
Exo 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
Now Moses saw and heard someone here, who was it?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
It was I AM. Now who was this?
Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." - NKJV
Now to drive this home...
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
1Co 10:2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
1Co 10:3 all ate the same spiritual food,
1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
The one who appeared to Moses, the one who spoke the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai was the One who became Jesus Christ. The One who also said...
Mat 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.
So with this in mind, tell me Dan, is this Law still in force?
Exo 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Or did the Great I AM lie here?
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
So no one has ever seen the Father or heard His voice.
Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
Here we see that the LORD spoke to Moses face to face.
Exo 33:18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.
Exo 33:19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.
Exo 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
Exo 33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
Exo 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
Now Moses saw and heard someone here, who was it?
Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
It was I AM. Now who was this?
Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." - NKJV
Now to drive this home...
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
1Co 10:2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
1Co 10:3 all ate the same spiritual food,
1Co 10:4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
The one who appeared to Moses, the one who spoke the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai was the One who became Jesus Christ. The One who also said...
Mat 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.
So with this in mind, tell me Dan, is this Law still in force?
Exo 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Or did the Great I AM lie here?
OK, then please see this...
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/82418-attack-judaizers-77.html#post1370092
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/82418-attack-judaizers-77.html#post1370092
LT my friend, we are not saved by His death, we are reconciled to the Father by His death. We are saved by His life...
Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.
Rom 5:10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.
Rom 5:10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
When Jesus expired on the Cross He said, "It is finished." He came not to abolish the teaching and the prophets; He came to complete them, finish them. (In this instance for law is the word, Torah in Hebrew, translated properly it is teachings, NOT LAW, though the teachings contain the law also.)
Psa 22:1
To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
Psa 22:2
O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
Psa 22:3
But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Psa 22:4
Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
Psa 22:5
They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
Psa 22:6
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
Psa 22:7
All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
Psa 22:8
He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Psa 22:9
But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
Psa 22:10
I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Psa 22:11
Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Psa 22:12
Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
Psa 22:13
They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
Psa 22:14
I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
Psa 22:15
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
Psa 22:16
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psa 22:17
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psa 22:18
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Psa 22:19
But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Psa 22:20
Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Psa 22:21
Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
Psa 22:22
I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Psa 22:23
Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psa 22:24
For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
Psa 22:25
My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
Psa 22:26
The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
Psa 22:27
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
Psa 22:28
For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
Psa 22:29
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
Psa 22:30
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
Psa 22:31
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
Psa 22:1
To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
Psa 22:2
O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
Psa 22:3
But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
Psa 22:4
Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
Psa 22:5
They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
Psa 22:6
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
Psa 22:7
All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
Psa 22:8
He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
Psa 22:9
But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
Psa 22:10
I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.
Psa 22:11
Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
Psa 22:12
Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
Psa 22:13
They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
Psa 22:14
I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
Psa 22:15
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
Psa 22:16
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psa 22:17
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
Psa 22:18
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Psa 22:19
But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
Psa 22:20
Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
Psa 22:21
Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
Psa 22:22
I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
Psa 22:23
Ye that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Psa 22:24
For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
Psa 22:25
My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
Psa 22:26
The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
Psa 22:27
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
Psa 22:28
For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations.
Psa 22:29
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
Psa 22:30
A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
Psa 22:31
They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
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I joined up to strengthen my faith in Jesus Christ. I am a lonely person who needs love and care from others as much I as love and care for others, even though I fail every day to do this, as Jesus did. I explored this post and some others, and I do not understand them. They have deeply troubled me and I feel very unsettled.
We are saved by the life Jesus lived under the Law on our behalf, first Israel His people then for all people. We are saved by His death. I read someone try to say we are not saved by death but by His life, by using Romans to do so. This is very troubling for me. It says if we were reconciled to God by His death, which He willingly submitted to after having lived without sin perfectly under the Law that God said not one other person kept, how much more will be saved by His life.
This does not mean we were not saved by His death. This is a very upsetting thing to say. It means how much more will He be able and willing to keep us saved by His life, for He was raised from the grave to bring us all the way to God, the final place eternally.
I have studied the Bible both Old and New Testaments, and it is all the whole counsel of God and all scripture is good for the Christian and the unsaved alike. But one thing I thought was a foundational belief in God was that we are to know for certain we are not saved by the Law. Not because the Law is not good but because we are unable.
I can not save myself in any way. Not by keeping the Law, not by anything I do. This is what is meant in Romans. That if while I was still an enemy of God, if by the life under His Father's Law Jesus lived without sin and if by His death according to His Father's Law Jesus reconciled me to God without my doing anything, how much more will be most certainly be saved by His Resurrection life since He is the Priest and the Author and the Finisher of my faith? I'm sorry this has been a very troubling place for me to be, I am not used to so many people accusing one another of being more able to save themselves or keep themselves in the salvation the Trinity Our God accomplished.
Can anyone save themselves?
I saw someone write so Jesus did it all and now we are free to live as we wish and I thought the answer was yes. We are. Didn't Jesus come to set us free to live as we wish? Knowing I could not save myself, and what I have been saved from makes me wish to live my life as near to Jesus the Savior as I can. Is this a sin? In what way is it a sin to wish to live near to Jesus Christ, grateful that He loved me when I did not even know it. I am not worth saving, even to this day I can not do what Jesus did. Are there truly persons here saying they are now more worthy of salvation than they were before? This is upsetting I am sorry this is long.
We are saved by the life Jesus lived under the Law on our behalf, first Israel His people then for all people. We are saved by His death. I read someone try to say we are not saved by death but by His life, by using Romans to do so. This is very troubling for me. It says if we were reconciled to God by His death, which He willingly submitted to after having lived without sin perfectly under the Law that God said not one other person kept, how much more will be saved by His life.
This does not mean we were not saved by His death. This is a very upsetting thing to say. It means how much more will He be able and willing to keep us saved by His life, for He was raised from the grave to bring us all the way to God, the final place eternally.
I have studied the Bible both Old and New Testaments, and it is all the whole counsel of God and all scripture is good for the Christian and the unsaved alike. But one thing I thought was a foundational belief in God was that we are to know for certain we are not saved by the Law. Not because the Law is not good but because we are unable.
I can not save myself in any way. Not by keeping the Law, not by anything I do. This is what is meant in Romans. That if while I was still an enemy of God, if by the life under His Father's Law Jesus lived without sin and if by His death according to His Father's Law Jesus reconciled me to God without my doing anything, how much more will be most certainly be saved by His Resurrection life since He is the Priest and the Author and the Finisher of my faith? I'm sorry this has been a very troubling place for me to be, I am not used to so many people accusing one another of being more able to save themselves or keep themselves in the salvation the Trinity Our God accomplished.
Can anyone save themselves?
I saw someone write so Jesus did it all and now we are free to live as we wish and I thought the answer was yes. We are. Didn't Jesus come to set us free to live as we wish? Knowing I could not save myself, and what I have been saved from makes me wish to live my life as near to Jesus the Savior as I can. Is this a sin? In what way is it a sin to wish to live near to Jesus Christ, grateful that He loved me when I did not even know it. I am not worth saving, even to this day I can not do what Jesus did. Are there truly persons here saying they are now more worthy of salvation than they were before? This is upsetting I am sorry this is long.
Any way you want to?
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Luk 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luk 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
Luk 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Seems to say otherwise here.
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Luk 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luk 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
Luk 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Seems to say otherwise here.
And by this is are you saying I wish to live unrighteously? I said I wish o live in love, to love and be loved. To live as near to Jesus as I can. Why did you change what I said? Is this the right thing to do?
Did you do this because you believe you are more righteous in God's eyes than I? Are you? Do you believe you are?
Did you do this because you believe you are more righteous in God's eyes than I? Are you? Do you believe you are?
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The righteousness of God comes from faith in Jesus Christ. I joined to strengthen my faith in what He has done, not to strengthen my faith in myself. I can not save myself, nor keep myself saved. That is God's doing in heaven. All I can do is keep myself in the love of God. And if I know that He loves me and gave Himself for me, why do you not love me also? Why do you suggest I wish to live in sin when you do not know me? This is not love, is it? You changed what I said to make it say that I want to be unrighteous. I am unrighteous according to the Law, but I do not wish to be. I wish to live near Jesus, and be loved by His people. I am sorry I do not love you more than you love me.
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Never said that. I said that the Love of God is this...
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Take it any way you wish, but that is what the Apostle John (you know, the one that Jesus loved) says.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Take it any way you wish, but that is what the Apostle John (you know, the one that Jesus loved) says.
But are you more righteous than I am? That is what I asked you.
Do you love God more than I do, or do you love me more than I love you? It is very possible, since I know I do not live up to the Commandments that order me to do those things yet do not give me the power to accomplish them. I love God because I heard the Good News of what He did for me, and because He gave me His Spirit so I could understand Him and love Him.
But I do not love Him enough to keep from breaking any commandments ever. Because I am not perfect. Are you?
Do you love God more than I do, or do you love me more than I love you? It is very possible, since I know I do not live up to the Commandments that order me to do those things yet do not give me the power to accomplish them. I love God because I heard the Good News of what He did for me, and because He gave me His Spirit so I could understand Him and love Him.
But I do not love Him enough to keep from breaking any commandments ever. Because I am not perfect. Are you?