BREAKING COVENANT

[chubbena]

Do you deny that if a man only had, ever in his life, the teaching of Paul, that he would be able to obtain salvation by using that alone?

Would you be able to name one person that only had, ever in his life, the teaching of Paul?
On the other hand do you deny that if a man never had the teachings of Paul, that he would be able to obtain salvation by using the scripture and by receiving Christ? There were many in the 1st century.

 

[homwardbound]

I respect what you say, but many times by mistake, and not on purpose, and then again maybe it is on purpose that the food of the Word of God is pushed aside. We can take the writings we know as the New Testament, and neglect the writings of the Old Testament. I consider that a grave mistake, for no one who preached the gospel of Jesus Christ, during the first church age when Paul was still alive had anything but the Old Testament. If we say that part of the Word of God is past, how in the world did they do it by using the scrolls that we say are past? If the New Covenant has a New Temple what are we supposed to relate it to, and how is it supposed to work according to God's Word from the beginning of the blood shed for atonement, and remission of sins? Do you not agree that the temple worship during Moses' day relates to the blood sacrifice of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ? If not, how on earth would you know that the gospel is real and can truly work according to the foreknowledge of God? Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites because they completely distorted the law God had given to Israel. They didn't minister the law in it's intended correct form. Jesus even questioned Nicodemus in John 3 as to why he didn't know about the new birth. It is obvious the Old Testament scripture defined being born again.

John 3:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

Thank you and understood. let me ask you a ?
Is there a before the cross, under law of Moses, an Aaronic Priesthood, and an after the cross under a new covenant, new law and new priesthood?

What tribe was Christ from?
Can there be a Priest under any other tribe outside of the Levite tribe?
So how is it that Christ is not of the Levite tribe? So are we under a new covenant, a new priesthood, and new Laws after the cross?

 

[homwardbound]

To all that think I am endorsing something incorrect I have some questions.

If we do not endeavor to study the laws of the old covenant temple, seeing that it was according to God's plan, how are we ever to know how it is supposed to work within ourselves now that we are the temple of the new covenant, according to the same God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who gave both?

Would you think it was for a reason according to the complete plan from the beginning, or do you think Jesus represents an afterthought, even though He created all things?

Do we claim the salvation of the new by rejecting the old, or do we accept the beauty of the new with joy and peace because the old?

Are we not suppose to see the relationship, seeing that both are the plan of the same God and Father of of Lord Jesus Christ?

The apostles saw this relationship, why is it wrong to follow suit with their example, and their insight that came via the Holy Spirit reminding them of the truth spoken by Jesus, and His Father?

By not understanding this are we subconsciously separating Jesus from the Almighty God, or do you think that was God's intent to be permanently separated from His own son?

A permanent separation would make us think of only this verse. Mark 15:34 (KJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP]And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

If we purposefully separate, are we not purposefully denying this following truth in the scripture?

John 14:1-9 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Please simply, tell me what was the Law of Moses put in place for to do what?
Please simply put, bottom line, thank you

 

[homwardbound]

The fallacy of the daughter churches of Babylon the harlot who built a tower of lies is
that they are trying with all their heart to get rid of the covenant.

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed,
and keep my covenant,
then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people:
for all the earth is mine:

What is the covenant?

HINT:

God SPOKE it
and he intends for you to keep it
He put it INSIDE THE ARK
It is so holy that when Uzzah touched it he died
the philistines got a plague when they did not keep it...
Hint
hint

now put away all our false doctrines we have been taught

the covenant is the ten commandments of God

I have 272 verses to prove it, I can put them up for you...

So whenever you see the word COVENANT
say
TEN COMMANDMENTS...

The fulfilling of these are:
[h=3]Matthew 22:35-40[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]35 [/SUP]Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, [SUP]36 [/SUP]Master, which is the great commandment in the law? [SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. [SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment. [SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

 

[homwardbound]

And YEs the covenant of Abraham was ---you guessed it, the ten commandments

and with NOAH
the ten commandments

and with Adam and seth and cain
the ten commandmnts

you cant sin without the covenant
it was there all the time

God had to write it in stone
people kept forgetting it.

BEFORE mt sinai God said to the people

Why are you not keeping my Sabbath?
I guess I will have to write it down for you!
Moses, come to the mountain....

and he will NEVER EVER EVER will change the eternal 10 commandments!


comon people! READ YOUR BIBLES!

Psa 89:34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

The only law that EVER went out of his lips to the people was the ten commandments

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass,
one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the 10 commandments,
till all be fulfilled.

The Ten Commandments were not ever given before Moses to any of the believers prior to Moses.
[h=3]Romans 5:12-14[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: [SUP]13 [/SUP](for until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come [SUP]15 [/SUP]But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

 

[homwardbound]

Oh I forgot to say how to do it

Give your life and heart and soul to God 100% each day
and He will give you his spirit and you will be infinitely powerful to stop yelling and screaming
and love will fill you
and ask God to be born again a new creature of love in him
and it will hapen
and then you have a wonderful day trampling on serpents and devils and prasing Go

your in.

that easy.
ask God to open your eyes
lead you in the way of righteousness (doing right)
and he will.
Now, look for others to tell how to get into the born again new cvenant that is a pleasant job, tell them your story how nice and easy it is

and How great is the Lord and greatly to be praised.

Do we need any humility?

 

[homwardbound]

Those who want to keep one foot i pagan religion have to invent huge towers of lies and send people to seminaries to teach them how to twist the Bible properly and:

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Bet you never had that verse taught from the pulpit

Read your Bible
there are lots of them

Are we to be:
Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Micah 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

You sound a little boastful and proud are we to be this way, and please correct if I am wrong and maybe show me verses such as his: what is sufficient for me to do what keep me what?

 

[lookuptoseeJesus]

Breaking the covenant is breaking the ten commanments.

old covenant
Keep my dommandmanets Abraham and I will be your God

new covenant
Keep my commandments with the power of the holy spirit in your heart and I will marry you.

 

[homwardbound]

Breaking the covenant is breaking the ten commanments.

old covenant
Keep my dommandmanets Abraham and I will be your God

new covenant
Keep my commandments with the power of the holy spirit in your heart and I will marry you.

And Love is:
Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Love you God's way not flesh's way, for by Christ's death "I" am dead, thus alive in the Spirit of God the Father through the resurrected Christ and none other way is there but through the death to life. This is Father's doing, not mine

 

[homwardbound]

Breaking the covenant is breaking the ten commanments.

old covenant
Keep my dommandmanets Abraham and I will be your God

new covenant
Keep my commandments with the power of the holy spirit in your heart and I will marry you.

While we were yet sinners he decided to go to the death for us and marry us once we believed God
Do you believe God: for here is the covenant of Love and belief receiving his Mercy and thus new life a gift to the believer:
[h=3]Colossians 1:21-23[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled [SUP]22 [/SUP]in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: [SUP]23 [/SUP]if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

 

[lookuptoseeJesus]

Col 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?

 

[just-me]

Thank you and understood. let me ask you a ?
Is there a before the cross, under law of Moses, an Aaronic Priesthood, and an after the cross under a new covenant, new law and new priesthood?

What tribe was Christ from?
Can there be a Priest under any other tribe outside of the Levite tribe?
So how is it that Christ is not of the Levite tribe? So are we under a new covenant, a new priesthood, and new Laws after the cross?

One must remember the "Mount of Transfiguration." That's where the Priesthood changed. Moses represented the law, and Elijah represented the prophets. Jesus said that nothing would be taken away from the law and the prophets. So according to Jesus Christ they are still in effect. So the question is what really changed if the law and prophets are still relevant?

When the priesthood was transferred to Jesus Christ, from Levi to the tribe of Judah, there was a change from the carnal or physical to the spiritual way of thinking, yet according to Jesus the words, given by His Father to Moses and the Prophets nothing change. What should be changed is our perception of these carnal, or physical examples. What is sad about some who reject what was establish in the past, manifest attributes of not being able to understand the parallel of the physical examples given to Moses and the prophets. They are confused, and because of that have rejected it, even though Jesus said it shouldn't be rejected. They fall into this category explained by Paul.

Romans 8:6-8 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

The ones who can understand what I just explained search the scriptures and see the relationship of the old way of doing things physically to the new way of understanding the old via the Spirit of the new. That's why Jesus taught in parables, related word is parallel. These people fall into this category.

Romans 8:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

IF is the BIG word.

 

[just-me]

Please simply, tell me what was the Law of Moses put in place for to do what?
Please simply put, bottom line, thank you

Please read post # 312 that will answer this question.

The bottom url is a song I wrote, and it will explain where I am coming from.
the top url is a song I just arranged. It relates.

 

[my_adonai_]

You are right. There are so many things in the Old Covenant/Testament records, particularly in temple worship that in every detail relate to the cleansing power of Jesus Christ, the teaching, and His death, burial, and resurrection. Even before that the days starting with the 10th day of the first month to the 14th day are exact. Jesus enters Jerusalem on the 10th day, and is crucified on the 14th, that night Jesus is in the tomb, and God passes over Egypt to see the blood. If the lamb was not slain, there would certainly be death on the house where the blood wasn't applied.

The Lord Was actually PIN POINT, ie very accurate with HIS timing hallelujah!!

 

[just-me]

The Lord Was actually PIN POINT, ie very accurate with HIS timing hallelujah!!

That insight is very important to know why our Lord did things in the progression of events recorded in scripture. That understanding helps tremendously with our spiritual growth. My our Lord and Savior bless you richly in all wisdom as Solomon had.