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Yep Walt was Illuminati and a 33rd degree Freemason. Watch this video, it is very informative.

[video=youtube;tOW6cSXTqmA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOW6cSXTqmA[/video]
OK, that appears to be more than coincidental. Seeing how most Disney personalities seem to go off the rails after a period of time.
My original question remains though... how are they inflicting the trauma that leads to this dissociation and ultimate mind control? Surely subjecting them to images of Freemasonry or Illuminati symbolism isn't enough to make them decide to go and ruin and disrespect their own lives and bodies... What are they doing to these children in the first place? And what is the point? Other than ruining the lives of those particular individuals?
If it is to desensitize our youth to sexual and lustful behavior... again what'a the point? How is that going to lead to one world order or to their ultimate power?

And if the Illuminati is controlling most organisations from within, how are they doing it? To the point where most people (Christians included) believe that the Illuminati ceased to exist ions ago. How are they getting to these people, to inflict this trauma, that leads to dissociation and mind control.. and in a way that the general populous have no idea?

My father used to go to regular Freemason meetings. Though he never divulged what happened within the meetings (secret men's business), he did always say that they upheld Christian values and were charitable. Note. my dad is NOT a christian. In saying that, he wouldn't stand for the behavior and manipulation of what you are implying

Trying to wrap my head around this...
 
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Psalm 145 (Monarch Butterfly Study) by Judy Rey Wasserman


Of course, during their transformational or cocoon stage they are most vulnerable to predators and in need of mercy to make it safely through this time. This is the main reason that Psalm 145 is used as the text for my strokes here. In the vulnerable cocoon stage the magnificent Monarch is most humble, unattractive and defenseless. The the relevant verse is below.
“14 The LORD upholdeth all that fall, and raiseth up all those that are bowed down.” —
Psalm 145 KJV

Psalm 145 (Monarch Butterfly Study) | Art & Inspiration Blog
 
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1. I want to note something on this Illuminati modern phenomenon. I personally do not like ascribing so many things to the so-called Illuminati. For one, yes the Illuminati was a real secret society that was wiped out and reincorporated into freemasonry. Secondly, the more modern concept of the "Illuminati" has become moreso a blanket term for some shadow world government. This is in fact not true as there are hundreds, if not thousands, of secret societies in the world, almost all of which are competing directly against one another. I believe many secret societies themselves promote the Illuminati Conspiracy as a means to distract and throw people off their path, sow fear, and even to recruit people.

2. On symbolism. Symbols can have a wide variety of meanings and over time can gain additional meanings. For example, the snake eating its tail could be interpretted as a symbol of self-destruction or it could be a symbol of infinity or even it could be a symbol of both. Symbols can be used in a variety of ways such as identification that you belong to a group, to convey a message, or even to manipulate the mind. It is important to remember not just your own interpretation of a symbol, but also the interpretation of the presenter of the symbol, and the context in which a symbol is used.

Now on to the homework assignment. I had seen Monarch Mind Control Theory before. There are many interesting theories on this. Almost all of which are saturated with Illuminati Theory so I would say, ignore the Illuminati speculation and just look at what we can objectively observe with the Monarch Theory. This short clip I found is pretty decent because the maker has put together some theories that you will notice align with other theories and factual observation.

The connection between sexual mind control and butterfly symbolism. - YouTube

[video=youtube;9lyLYrBIhbw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lyLYrBIhbw[/video]

Some interesting notes from this clip that align with other Monarch Mind Control Theories:

1. The prevalent use of the butterfly as a symbol in Western Entertainment Culture.

2. In entertainment the butterfly is used as a symbol of disassociation, a dreamlike/hypnotic state, in regards to women is used as a sexual symbol, and also the butterfly is often a symbol of metamorphosis.

3. There is often a connection of either childhood sexual abuse or adult sexual promiscuity in the personal lives of all the people in the entertainment industry that all seem to use the butterfly symbol.

4. Not so much featured in this video clip, but in others, there seems to be a strong connection of Multiple Personality Disorder related to the people that heavily use the butterfly symbol.

(Note: At the end of the video notice how the videomaker ironically uses symbolism him/herself by using the pyramid of skulls and eye symbol to impress upon your mind that this is all part of an evil secret society conspiracy without using any words.)
 
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Christians adopted the triquetra as a symbol for the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit or Ghost. The triquetra was used on the 1611 edition of the King James Bible. It may have been used as a sort of talisman, in early Christian times, to keep away evil or it may have been used as just a decoration. No one really knows what the true meaning was.

What is a Triquetra Celtic Knots Celtic Symbols by Kat Apf | Life Paths 360
 
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OK, that appears to be more than coincidental. Seeing how most Disney personalities seem to go off the rails after a period of time.
My original question remains though... how are they inflicting the trauma that leads to this dissociation and ultimate mind control? Surely subjecting them to images of Freemasonry or Illuminati symbolism isn't enough to make them decide to go and ruin and disrespect their own lives and bodies... What are they doing to these children in the first place? And what is the point? Other than ruining the lives of those particular individuals?
If it is to desensitize our youth to sexual and lustful behavior... again what'a the point? How is that going to lead to one world order or to their ultimate power?

And if the Illuminati is controlling most organisations from within, how are they doing it? To the point where most people (Christians included) believe that the Illuminati ceased to exist ions ago. How are they getting to these people, to inflict this trauma, that leads to dissociation and mind control.. and in a way that the general populous have no idea?

My father used to go to regular Freemason meetings. Though he never divulged what happened within the meetings (secret men's business), he did always say that they upheld Christian values and were charitable. Note. my dad is NOT a christian. In saying that, he wouldn't stand for the behavior and manipulation of what you are implying

Trying to wrap my head around this...
Have you ever watched the TV show "Brain Games", if not watch it. The human brain operates in a predictable way and the Illuminati understand this and take full advantage of it. Mind control is complicated and I can't explain it nor do I understand it very well. But let me give you a simple example of how mind manipulation works. There is a process called the hegelian dialectic, Fox News especially and most news agencies for that matter use it, and it works like this. An idea is presented, then a counter idea is presented, this is called thesis and antithesis... the human mind can not handle this, it seeks to work out a solution to the imbalance. The solution is called synthesis. The hegelian process is thesis - antithesis = synthesis. Each time the Illuminati use this process, they slowly advance the mind where ever they want to take it. This is a simple example of mind manipulation, I believe symbols can also be used to manipulate the mind, but I haven't done research to understand how it works.

Google Cathy O'brien, she is the only MK Ultra victim to ever survive and come out and talk about it... that I know of. I can't post that video on her because it is very sexual and has a lot of bad language. But if your interested in understanding trauma based mind control, that is good video to watch. Again, the brain works in predictable ways. When the mind is exposed to extreme trauma, the mind builds a "compartment" around the event as self protection mechanism... the Illuminati know this. So what they do is subject the person to extreme torture to build up multiple compartments in the persons mind. They now have created person with multiple personalities and they have the ability to call which ever personality they want, whenever they want it, through "triggers".

My father in law is Freemason and I love him to death, but he want talk about anything to do with the lodge either. He is one the most moral and upstanding people I know... and he is not a Christian. Being a Freemason does not make a person an evil person, but evil persons are a part of the Masons. Most Mason's have no clue about what the Freemasons stand for. It's one of those things where you get out of it what you want to get out of it. It's pretty interesting how they filter out the amount of knowledge an individual receives, but too much to get into here.
 
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Just wanting to comment here on some of the things others posted.

1. The alleged KGB experiments. Very interesting video clips for sure. Can't really say for certain if they are legit or not, though it is certainly within the realm of plausibility. Lol after all the CIA was heavily involved in this sort of stuff so it only stands to reason that their Cold War nemesis would be involved in similar studies. Definantly something I will have to do more research on.

2. In regards to Disney. I don't think it is any secret that Disney is one of the world's foremost powerful propaganda outlets and is actively involved in manipulating the minds of millions. Quite honestly we could probably have a topic about Disney itself and all the many things from the Mickey Mouse Club Kids that go onto greater fame turning twisted and messed up to the unending amount of subliminal messages that are in just about every single one of their videos. The video KJV shared is a pretty good starting point but is only a small fraction of the things tied to Disney.

3. Freemasonry. This is something I have researched a lot indeed. Indeed Walt Disney was a freemason. As far as I have figured out from my many years of research on freemasonry they are something of what I would call a compendium of magic and secret societies. Lol a metaphorical Hogwarts if you will. At the lowest level of masonry they are merely a cult of allegories. Which in my opinion isn't too bad a thing.
Then when you look further up the chain things become very dark. From accounts of former masons, but moreso the give away being their symbolism and rituals; it would seem to me that the higher levels of freemasonry are certainly engaged in witchcraft and possibly are connected to demons. It is very curious that not only do masons themselves tend to report supernatural events ("ghosts", out of body experiences, etc.) but also so do their close family members.
Now remember, most masons will never get to the higher degrees so don't be too hasty to label all of them as demon worshippers, like I said most the lower level masons are merely involved in philosophy and allegory and will never ascend to the higher levels.
Very interesting note on freemasonry is that they are actually losing membership very rapidly in recent years and have even publicly revealed the rites of their first three degrees in an attempt to recruit more people into their dying fraternity. Also the Masons are not some all powerful shadow government. Yes they have much control in western civilization, but they are also very much in conflict with other secret societies, religions, and political groups of which there are hundreds if not thousands all over the planet.

Freemasonry like all secret societies are not really all that secret. All one must do is look and question.
Here's a good Bible verse that I always held to be true when dealing with secret societies, conspiracy theories, the idolatrous religions, and alleged secret agendas:
Luke 8:17
"For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad."
 
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Well... I watched the documentary of Cathy O'Brien (all 2 hours of it!!). It was extremely disturbing to say the least!

There is obviously something there. And the amount of symbolism throughout Hollywood and in politics worldwide is just another reason for why we must be vigilant. I feel extremely sad for the folks who were unfortunate enough to live through such an experience. Thank you for pointing out that this is happening underneath our noses.

Ultimately though, there is good and evil all around us. Always has been... it is our responsibility as Christians to share the gospel with as many people as possible. Nothing (no, not even Illuminati brain washing) and nobody is too big or damaged for God the make new.

Romans 8:38 - 39
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is Christ Jesus our Lord.

I think I am just going to focus on Jesus - and let devil and his minions entertain themselves. After all... we all know who wins in the end.
 
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Well... I watched the documentary of Cathy O'Brien (all 2 hours of it!!). It was extremely disturbing to say the least!

There is obviously something there. And the amount of symbolism throughout Hollywood and in politics worldwide is just another reason for why we must be vigilant. I feel extremely sad for the folks who were unfortunate enough to live through such an experience. Thank you for pointing out that this is happening underneath our noses.

Ultimately though, there is good and evil all around us. Always has been... it is our responsibility as Christians to share the gospel with as many people as possible. Nothing (no, not even Illuminati brain washing) and nobody is too big or damaged for God the make new.

Romans 8:38 - 39
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is Christ Jesus our Lord.

I think I am just going to focus on Jesus - and let devil and his minions entertain themselves. After all... we all know who wins in the end.
Very awesome statement and true indeed! I agree to it fully. I would also add that I am of the opinion that all the secret societies, dark principalities, evil rulers, etc. are their own greatest enemy. Really because of Jesus we have nothing to fear from any evil secret society or even death itself since Jesus promises to raise us all up and save the righteous for eternity. Also remember our enemy is not the people that are caught in these traps, but rather the ideas and traps that hurt the people. Ephesians 6:12 really put that into perspective for me, which is why its my favorite Bible verse in my profile.

Also I really liked your scripture reference in terms of this topic!
 
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It's all about the money honey"
Money makes the world go round. And it's all just a societal trend to get to your wallets. :cool:
 
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Butterflies, Flutterbyes, Gutterflies...

"If you go down to Willow Farm,
to look for butterflies, flutterbyes, gutterflies
Open your eyes, it's full of surprise, everyone lies,
like the fox on the rocks,
and the musical box.
Oh, there's Mum & Dad, and good and bad,
and everyone's happy to be here."


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If you so desire, please feel free to post - for others to see:

~ "unnecessary" / "out of place" pictures / images of butterflies in public places

~ pictures / images of company logos containing the aforementioned circles / arcs
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I have a question that I would like to ask any and all who are willing to participate with an honest answer...

I would make a poll thread out of this question; except, providing possible answers to choose from would actually taint the results.

In order not to taint anyone else's answer -- do not post your answer, but rather - PM it to me.

In order not to taint your own answer -- do not research the question, but rather - just give an immediate first-impression honest answer.

If you already have any specific knowledge about what the answer should be -- do not answer. The results need to reflect the first-impression response of people.

I promise to post a tally of the answers - without any user names, just answers and numbers - after a reasonable collection sample has been had.

Please be patient and do not post anything concerning this question until my tally report is given.

Thanks.

Scroll down to see the question.

























The question is:

What do you see when you look at the symbol at the end of the current Walmart Logo?
What is your first impression?
What are you looking at?



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I think I had forgotten about this. I couldn't remember whether Walt was illuminati or they took over the company after he died... :confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

I have not yet watched the video. However, if he was a 33rd degree Freemason, then he was definitely illuminati.
IDK either, but he was heavy into witchcraft, so it seems very plausible.
 
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actually most christians realize that this stuff isn't 'knowledge' at all...just paranoid imagination and severe self delusion...
Rachel, you & I agree on a variety of things about religion & the Scriptures, but this isn't one of them.

I was very much like you on this topic a few years ago. I thought it all was just a bunch of nonsense, until I saw Bush Sr. mention the New World Order in one of his speeches. I was floored. I heard it with my own ears. Later on when I started searching the net I stumbled across the movie Loose Change 2nd Edition FULL LENGTH - YouTube
 
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actually most christians realize that this stuff isn't 'knowledge' at all...just paranoid imagination and severe self delusion...
Rachel, you & I agree on a variety of things about religion & the Scriptures, but this isn't one of them.

I was very much like you on this topic a few years ago. I thought it all was just a bunch of nonsense, until I saw Bush Sr. mention the New World Order in one of his speeches. I was floored. I heard it with my own ears. Later on when I started searching the net I stumbled across the movie Loose Change. That movie , with all the facts, news footage, eyewitness testimonies, & expert testimonies opened my eyes wide open. I then began to investigate The Freemasons, the Illuminati, & other secret societies. What I discovered for myself was a master plan devised to take over goverments, corporations, & even the church itself. Story after story of how freemasons are secretly sitting on boards in churches & even pastoring them. There's so much I can't even begin to tell. All of this I found on my own, with each article saying the same things over & over. As a servant of God I'm telling you it's all real.
 
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Rachel, you & I agree on a variety of things about religion & the Scriptures, but this isn't one of them.

I was very much like you on this topic a few years ago. I thought it all was just a bunch of nonsense, until I saw Bush Sr. mention the New World Order in one of his speeches. I was floored. I heard it with my own ears. Later on when I started searching the net I stumbled across the movie Loose Change 2nd Edition FULL LENGTH - YouTube
My system glitched, I didn't know this part was posted.:eek: