Square in the Eyes

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From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17 RSV

If I am not mistaken, after we repent of our sin, we will able to look everybody square in the eyes. Do we have to be able to look everybody square in the eyes before we can go to heaven?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Define repenting. succeeding in turning away from all sin? (impossible) attempting to change? - yes, that we are supposed to do

necessary to go to heaven? You are saved by faith, not deeds....

so, by my interpretation: No, it's not a demand, but it IS something we should do our best to do.
 
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Define repenting. succeeding in turning away from all sin? (impossible) attempting to change? - yes, that we are supposed to do

necessary to go to heaven? You are saved by faith, not deeds....

so, by my interpretation: No, it's not a demand, but it IS something we should do our best to do.
My definition of “repent” isn’t important. Only the Lord’s definition matters. Now, read this:

You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:48 RSV)

We still have work to do, don’t we?
 
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Define repenting. succeeding in turning away from all sin? (impossible) attempting to change? - yes, that we are supposed to do

necessary to go to heaven? You are saved by faith, not deeds....

so, by my interpretation: No, it's not a demand, but it IS something we should do our best to do.
" I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Luke 13:3


That doesn't sound like a demand to you?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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so then we ARE saved by deeds?

well, i can just give up then, coz if I have to be perfect, I'm going to hell. fast
 
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so then we ARE saved by deeds?

well, i can just give up then, coz if I have to be perfect, I'm going to hell. fast
You are assuming the Lord expects a lot of you. Maybe he doesn’t expect as much as you think. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Is there anything in there that’s too difficult for you? Does he really ask that much?
 
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if we have to be perfect?

let's se: the ten commandments: (they still apply, don't they?) You shall not lie.... you shall not envy your neighbours (...) ... you shall keep the sabbath holy.. I know I've broken those, several times

"he who says to his brother "raka" shall be condemned to the fires of hell"

Don't most of us do that kind of stuff now and then? or perhaps even often? without meaning to
 
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Buddee

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so then we ARE saved by deeds?

well, i can just give up then, coz if I have to be perfect, I'm going to hell. fast
I would encourage you to look deeper into exactly what it means to "repent".
 
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Define repenting. succeeding in turning away from all sin? (impossible) attempting to change? - yes, that we are supposed to do

necessary to go to heaven? You are saved by faith, not deeds....

so, by my interpretation: No, it's not a demand, but it IS something we should do our best to do.
I’m sorry, wwjd_kilden, I was short with you, wasn’t I? “Repent” to me means “to change”—that is: “stop sinning.” The verse I quoted for you tells us we have to be perfect. In practical terms, perhaps, I think we need to be able to look everyone square in the eyes. If something you are doing makes it difficult to always look everybody square in the eyes, then you have to repent of that behavior.
 
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Kilden, you're magnifying a couple verses of scripture to a point it out-weighs the rest of the bible. Alot of people do that, but if you keep reading that epistle it says this: 'saved by grace through faith, and this not of ourselves it is the gift of God; not of works lest anyone boast. For you are his workmanship created unto (or for) good works...' people have made a habbit of stoping with the first part of that and ignoring that we were made to do good works...yes were not saved by them, but that doesnt mean we dont have to do them. Now that's not neccisarily the point here...we have to repent...Christ says that first, before he says believe the gospel. This means that we have to stop doing evil works...so you see that repentance is not salvation by works, its the opposite, it's required to STOP working, but this isnt inclusive, were to stop doing EVIL...refreaining from evil, and repenting from the evil weve already commited is not a work.
 
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"I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

Doesn't that mean they enter heaven WITHOUT stopping what they are doing? (if they stopped, they would no longer be prostitutes or tax- collectors)
 
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by our faith is it done to us. I say this, if we truly believe that Jesus was watching every moment of our lives. If our faith was so strong that it were as if we could see him. Surely we would never sin. Through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, Amen.
 
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Like I said, I KNOW we are supposed to live without sin, I just don't think it is possible for any of us to live life perfectly. thus, we need salvation by grace, as we will sin. I'm not saying that's how it IS, it's just how I see it.
 
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I think it's funny when people try to separate works from faith.. Faith without works is dead and works without faith is dead. If you have that genuine faith in Christ than you will do works.. Right?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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of course. but it will not make me perfect
 
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Deadtosin

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The leading door into sin is our inability to stay focused on our Lord Jesus Christ. For once we change our attention to the distractions of this world we are tempted by the desires of our flesh. In which case we are indeed in need of his Grace, over and over again. Does it HAVE to be this way? no. The choice is ours and it is far too easy to flip on "the simpsons" and watch as little Lisa Simpson, who is never wrong establish that evolution is proven by science and Christianity is another myth of the ages. Then comes the commercial with a woman with an incredible body, and amazing cars that we would love to drive. Then a boy gets stuck in a balloon that fly's across Colorado and when it is over, where is our attention.. its a scary world we live in and the stakes are of the highest sort. I reccommend that all of us focus on Jesus Christ in with our entire attention, lest we be caught sleeping on the day of his great banquet
 
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Deadtosin

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when we choose to sin, because we know we are saved by Grace, we are flirting with eternal death, and whats worse.. its by choice.. every conscious decision we make that separates us from God is one more step away from salvation.
 
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I only partially agree with you. coz if we don't pay ANY attention to the world we won't know what's happening, and then we can't guide those that go astray to the Lord... We're not OF this world, but we ARE in it, and there must be a reason for that. Otherwise He could just have put us in heaven in the fist place. Right?
 
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Deadtosin

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I see what you are saying, and I'm not saying we should sit in a corner and pray non stop until we starve to death. The problem is that while we are focusing on this world there are works to be done for Jesus our Lord, there are those who thirst for the truth and need you to deliver it to them. There are those you love who are in dire need of the Salvation that only comes through Jesus Christ. There is more for us to learn, more for us to seek. If this were a football game and you were the quarterback during the superbowl, at what point could you walk over and get an icecream cone? The stakes are just too high.. and the time is near, when the Lord will come and judge the world.. there is nothing that we should do other than learn, love and spread the Word expectantly watching and waiting for his arrival. While we focus on the worldly things, what if there is one soul that we could have lead to salvation, but we missed the opportunity, will that persons blood be on our hands?
 
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Deadtosin

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and watching the world events, and keeping tabs on Luciferian, hindu, buddhist columnist articles and keeping tabs on all aspects of politics is just another way to watch for the dangers ahead, we should absolutely watch what is going on.. But mindless distractions are not part of this process.
 
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