God doesn't seem to really care.
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Exactly.
Well, think what you will. You find out the truth someday. (I'm not saying that in an attempt to you get angry, so chill out.) At least you can't say that on one ever tried to answers your questions.
That porn comment is further proof you don't really care about what we have to say, which makes sense since you came here for kicks.
Get a life and stop bugging us if all you want to do is reject everything we say. But you probably won't, choosing instead to dabble in your ignorance. Just know that it was your choice, lest you try to blame someone else.
Laters.
Well, think what you will. You find out the truth someday. (I'm not saying that in an attempt to you get angry, so chill out.) At least you can't say that on one ever tried to answers your questions.
That porn comment is further proof you don't really care about what we have to say, which makes sense since you came here for kicks.
Get a life and stop bugging us if all you want to do is reject everything we say. But you probably won't, choosing instead to dabble in your ignorance. Just know that it was your choice, lest you try to blame someone else.
Laters.
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@Arcynaculr
Welcome to Christianchat.com, Arcynaculr. Please don't take Penknight's post (#182) personally as we all may tire now and then when in debate.
I don't share that mindset. I believe that certain sins can be more dangerous than others.
Slamming a fellow student into a school locker would be a sin, however, it would pale in comparison to the sin of murder.
@Resurrection33
It's nice to meet you.
I disagree with that statement, sir. Please offer your deeper views on this matter and I'll try to counter them.
Welcome to Christianchat.com, Arcynaculr. Please don't take Penknight's post (#182) personally as we all may tire now and then when in debate.I don't share that mindset. I believe that certain sins can be more dangerous than others.
Slamming a fellow student into a school locker would be a sin, however, it would pale in comparison to the sin of murder.
@Resurrection33
It's nice to meet you.I disagree with that statement, sir. Please offer your deeper views on this matter and I'll try to counter them.
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We should not dismiss this man and say he dose not know and god is greater then him im sorry on behalf some christians ..you have a vaild statement and it has alot of love in it but we dont go to hell becuse we fail or didnt do the right thing we go there cuz we choose to becuse we choose to not accept that god is our creator and think about it we as a people have children as a choose so we choose to bring people into this world ever one alive is here becuse of a chose a man and woman made so if there is any1 to blame its us ...sorry if i didnt put into clear words
If something came from nothing, this goes against science. If nothing came from nothing, then how did anything come to be, including this conversation? If this conversation is nothing, then how does it become anything without something first making something of it? If nothing different than nothing acts upon nothing, then nothing--according to science and logic-- different can be derived. If nothing is all that this conversation is, then it is nothing to continue or conclude. Or is it?
Perhaps, instead, this whole lot of nothing is really actually something, and perhaps the something really matters (if there such a thing). I ask, then, how did something come from apparently nothing? Someone can imagine no god, but where did the first of all Nothing-and/or-something first happen? And how did inertia (if real) or the ability (if real) to stop (if really happens) or the probability (if exists) to change (if variation of nothing can happen without something else) come from (implying something as having origin and/or being eternal)?
The reality is, science and logic is challenged as to why there is anything. This is where faith comes in... call it a crutch to explain what cannot be explained, I do not care. God does not make sense if one looks at the origin of things through man's understanding. Neither, though, does the nonexistence of God or gods or an original cause or co-causers. Thus, one cannot know without faith in something unknown; unless, one only puts faith in what is known. Still, if we base all of Nothing-and/or-something on our understanding (if exists), then how did that first point of so-called understanding come about ( implied as having origin and/or being eternal, or nonexistent)? Was it from self-will, another' s will, or happenstance? Or does anyone have any understanding?
Asking questions is easy. The answers are hard. Even harder is understanding the answers or knowing how to answer others' questions. I am glad that people know these answers (if they do), but I do not. I am too dumb to be part of this conversation. Therefore, like you will have guessed, I choose to put my faith or lack thereof in the idea of eternal deity. I do not doubt the deity that I do not understand but have faith in. I doubt my logic and understanding of Nothing-and/or-something, called life.
As I put my faith in God, I put my faith in the one called Christ Jesus. In both regards, my faith is not perfect. (if such a thing exists)
God knows our questions, actions, and motives.
"We know in part," the Bible says (1 Corinthians 13:9).
For the record, I know even less.
I pray that we all learn more and live better as needed.
Perhaps, instead, this whole lot of nothing is really actually something, and perhaps the something really matters (if there such a thing). I ask, then, how did something come from apparently nothing? Someone can imagine no god, but where did the first of all Nothing-and/or-something first happen? And how did inertia (if real) or the ability (if real) to stop (if really happens) or the probability (if exists) to change (if variation of nothing can happen without something else) come from (implying something as having origin and/or being eternal)?
The reality is, science and logic is challenged as to why there is anything. This is where faith comes in... call it a crutch to explain what cannot be explained, I do not care. God does not make sense if one looks at the origin of things through man's understanding. Neither, though, does the nonexistence of God or gods or an original cause or co-causers. Thus, one cannot know without faith in something unknown; unless, one only puts faith in what is known. Still, if we base all of Nothing-and/or-something on our understanding (if exists), then how did that first point of so-called understanding come about ( implied as having origin and/or being eternal, or nonexistent)? Was it from self-will, another' s will, or happenstance? Or does anyone have any understanding?
Asking questions is easy. The answers are hard. Even harder is understanding the answers or knowing how to answer others' questions. I am glad that people know these answers (if they do), but I do not. I am too dumb to be part of this conversation. Therefore, like you will have guessed, I choose to put my faith or lack thereof in the idea of eternal deity. I do not doubt the deity that I do not understand but have faith in. I doubt my logic and understanding of Nothing-and/or-something, called life.
As I put my faith in God, I put my faith in the one called Christ Jesus. In both regards, my faith is not perfect. (if such a thing exists)
God knows our questions, actions, and motives.
"We know in part," the Bible says (1 Corinthians 13:9).
For the record, I know even less.
I pray that we all learn more and live better as needed.
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Still i would not deem it wise to put faith in anything unknown. if you want to and you can then fine. but i don't want to and even if i did, i can't. i don't have the ability to trust the unknown.
For example: if a guy pulls a gun on me and says to give him my money. well, i don't know for sure if he is going to shoot me ragardless of wether i give him my money or not. i could have faith that he would not shoot me... but thats stupid. i could have faith that he would shoot me... but i dont know for sure so thats stupid too... i would say the probability of getting shot is higher than not getting shot... but plain fact is, i don't know if i will or not. so what is the best thing to do? Try to minimize the chances of getting shot, of course, but he may shoot you anyway, so really, in the end, all you can do is hope you won't get shot. but i wouldn't/couldn't put faith in it.
For example: if a guy pulls a gun on me and says to give him my money. well, i don't know for sure if he is going to shoot me ragardless of wether i give him my money or not. i could have faith that he would not shoot me... but thats stupid. i could have faith that he would shoot me... but i dont know for sure so thats stupid too... i would say the probability of getting shot is higher than not getting shot... but plain fact is, i don't know if i will or not. so what is the best thing to do? Try to minimize the chances of getting shot, of course, but he may shoot you anyway, so really, in the end, all you can do is hope you won't get shot. but i wouldn't/couldn't put faith in it.
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God created mankind in His image because He loves Himself. God is GOOD.
Everything He created including humans was good.
But the very first humans He made, fell into sin, and He didn't throw them away either or cast them into hell. He just made things different for them. He had every intention to make people fruitful and multiply STILL, but now childbirth was going to be more painful for example. He even regretted having made people in the first place (Genesis 6:7), but even so, He did not and has not given up on LOVE.
I appreciate that I exist, that my existence is legitimate, and not some imaginary game where I have no choices. Should evil keep God back from doing good things? From creating wonderful things? Stop Him from expressing love? We have a loving God! Praise God!!!
God sees every thought of a human being unlike us. He knows the secrets we don't know,. There are people out there who are Christians who don't know they are Christians yet. God knows the heart, and it's not our jobs to judge the final destinations of people. He is the judge, He knows where are hearts are at and what they are made of, and He decides who gets into heaven. Not us. If somebody was going to eventually accept Jesus, God knows that, and it speaks volumes about who they are. God knows what He's doing.
Everything He created including humans was good.
But the very first humans He made, fell into sin, and He didn't throw them away either or cast them into hell. He just made things different for them. He had every intention to make people fruitful and multiply STILL, but now childbirth was going to be more painful for example. He even regretted having made people in the first place (Genesis 6:7), but even so, He did not and has not given up on LOVE.
I appreciate that I exist, that my existence is legitimate, and not some imaginary game where I have no choices. Should evil keep God back from doing good things? From creating wonderful things? Stop Him from expressing love? We have a loving God! Praise God!!!
God sees every thought of a human being unlike us. He knows the secrets we don't know,. There are people out there who are Christians who don't know they are Christians yet. God knows the heart, and it's not our jobs to judge the final destinations of people. He is the judge, He knows where are hearts are at and what they are made of, and He decides who gets into heaven. Not us. If somebody was going to eventually accept Jesus, God knows that, and it speaks volumes about who they are. God knows what He's doing.
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Porn hurts everyone, and the sin you indulge in affects who you are and the way you behave which affects those around you, which affects the world. What you do in private will be revealed. Not to mention that porn is dangerous for those involved, the horrible statistics among those who do it, and the human trafficking connected to it all.
God speaks a lot about the mind in the Bible. Ever heard the phrase "The mind is a battlefield", or "The mind is satans playground"? What you think about will reveal itself. What you stay your mind on you are a slave to. If you constantly think of women in a disrespectful way, you will be disrespectful to them. And since your mind is depraved it will only grow worse. It won't stop at disrespecting women, you will move onto disrespecting young girls, and probably all children. And it probably won't stop at simple disrespectful gestures, but grow worse and worse.
I love this song
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Woah... someone is blowing this out of proportion. seriously? Ok, i get it, you hate porn. and im sure you have your reasons. and maybe it does affect some or even most people like that, but not me. saying i will disrespect women. i dont disrespect women. at all. i respect them alot actually. And then saying i will probably start disrespecting children... You really should think before you just start saying what i will or probably will do... especially in areas like that.
Mention porn and get judged. sheesh. i guess im a horrible person -.-
Mention porn and get judged. sheesh. i guess im a horrible person -.-
I appreciate this post, it is honest and not just throwing out assertions just stepping back and trying to objectively understand the why.
I have no problem then with the faith you have in God, that is your choice. I choose not to simply because i think your reasons are not sufficient.
Now i will address this misconception that atheists think something came from nothing:
That is absurd, obviously we are here therefore something has always existed.
Existence cannot come from non-existence.
You assert the eternal something as a personal being with a human like mind and emotions. Atheist do not.
That is the difference, if you define God as some eternal substance then that is different.... i then believe in God.
Edit-- As to WHY there has always been something ..... I do not know neither does anyone else.
I have no problem then with the faith you have in God, that is your choice. I choose not to simply because i think your reasons are not sufficient.
Now i will address this misconception that atheists think something came from nothing:
That is absurd, obviously we are here therefore something has always existed.
Existence cannot come from non-existence.
You assert the eternal something as a personal being with a human like mind and emotions. Atheist do not.
That is the difference, if you define God as some eternal substance then that is different.... i then believe in God.
Edit-- As to WHY there has always been something ..... I do not know neither does anyone else.
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bottom line no matter what God does love you and all people, that is why he sent his son to die in our stead and to give us new life thinking in and by the resurrected Christ, renewing our minds to see from God's vantage point not our own or others God's
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
It starts with believing God no matter what is going on in our life. Maybe if you start exercising this trust (faith) God might revealhimself to you. It does take making the decision to believe and read and ask in Faith
I to this day have had many tragedies, yet God has never forsaken me, and h ave been shot, stabbed faced blown up by a tire machine, all fake teeth, head split opened, choked to death and recently Gang green, and was not easy getting through it all, yet I did not give up on God coming through regardless of all the tragedies.
Maybe read Job in the Ol.d Testament and the result after that?
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
It starts with believing God no matter what is going on in our life. Maybe if you start exercising this trust (faith) God might revealhimself to you. It does take making the decision to believe and read and ask in Faith
I to this day have had many tragedies, yet God has never forsaken me, and h ave been shot, stabbed faced blown up by a tire machine, all fake teeth, head split opened, choked to death and recently Gang green, and was not easy getting through it all, yet I did not give up on God coming through regardless of all the tragedies.
Maybe read Job in the Ol.d Testament and the result after that?
Christ came born of a virgin to redeem us all if we will choose to believe God in this Mercy. Proven first by all the miracles that took place, during his time here on earth, and no man has ever done better ever
And as well it is reported by over 500 people that saw him alive after the death and burial. Even Thomas had to see for himself and did. And was amazed and Christ said how blessed others will be that do not need physical proof, as you apparently do.
I leave this up to God and you,. trusting God for you to make the conscious choice as to believe God or not. And to know the consequences to not believe
For at the day of Judgment no one will have an excuse for all will have chosen to either believe God or not. Romans 1 and 2
And as well it is reported by over 500 people that saw him alive after the death and burial. Even Thomas had to see for himself and did. And was amazed and Christ said how blessed others will be that do not need physical proof, as you apparently do.
I leave this up to God and you,. trusting God for you to make the conscious choice as to believe God or not. And to know the consequences to not believe
For at the day of Judgment no one will have an excuse for all will have chosen to either believe God or not. Romans 1 and 2
I pray for you, your happiness and joy found in God the Father through the Son Christ
All in love and spiritual warfare. God does love you and as long as you do not see this you will not, God does just love you and is reaching out to you.
No brag just fact
Thank you fro you create no mdoubts in me as Satan did to Adam and Eve and they ate from that tree that brought death, that had nothing to do with God causing the mess that is in the world today.
God came to earth in Son Christ to save us from the flesh selfishness that we all are born with through the womb, except Christ Jesus, whom was born of the Virgin Mary.
This is and was the Mercy from Father to give us new life in the Spirit and we reckon ourselves dead to flesh and alive to God in the Spirit of God, thanking Christ for the redemption
Set free to love all, as God so well showed through Son
All in love and spiritual warfare. God does love you and as long as you do not see this you will not, God does just love you and is reaching out to you.
No brag just fact
Thank you fro you create no mdoubts in me as Satan did to Adam and Eve and they ate from that tree that brought death, that had nothing to do with God causing the mess that is in the world today.
God came to earth in Son Christ to save us from the flesh selfishness that we all are born with through the womb, except Christ Jesus, whom was born of the Virgin Mary.
This is and was the Mercy from Father to give us new life in the Spirit and we reckon ourselves dead to flesh and alive to God in the Spirit of God, thanking Christ for the redemption
Set free to love all, as God so well showed through Son