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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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Tintin said:
Evolution is pure fantasy, God's Word is Truth. As a Christian, you should know this and believe this to be true.
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A "Christian" would not say such things as everybody knows it is 3.58694875645352426474939950306938274 billion years old and 23 hrs, 37 minutes 18 seconds and counting...obviously I am stating the obvious! ;)
 
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miktre

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jag1977 said:
So what you are proclaiming is to know all about God. You know his existence beyond your understanding of time. PROVE me wrong with your all knowing insight and personal relationship with God. If you can't the I suggest you reevaluate that relationship.
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I know He was never an ape, He is Holy and upright, perfect and eternal and we were created in his image, we ought not spend our whole lives walking around on all fours nor crawling on our bellies. Christ didn't die for dogs, rats, and monkeys, those are some things I know.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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miktre said:
I know He was never an ape, He is Holy and upright, perfect and eternal and we were created in his image, we ought not spend our whole lives walking around on all fours nor crawling on our bellies. Christ didn't die for dogs, rats, and monkeys, those are some things I know.
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John 3:16...For God so loved the (COSMOS) whole order of things

Romans 8:22.. For we KNOW that the WHOLE CREATION groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. verse 23 tells what they are groaning for...the adoption!
 
jag1977

jag1977

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miktre said:
I know He was never an ape, He is Holy and upright, perfect and eternal and we were created in his image, we ought not spend our whole lives walking around on all fours nor crawling on our bellies. Christ didn't die for dogs, rats, and monkeys, those are some things I know.
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So you can't prove it with scripture?
 
jag1977

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miktre said:
I know He was never an ape, He is Holy and upright, perfect and eternal and we were created in his image, we ought not spend our whole lives walking around on all fours nor crawling on our bellies. Christ didn't die for dogs, rats, and monkeys, those are some things I know.
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Check and read again....
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2*The same was in the beginning with God.

3*All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4*In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5*And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
 
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miktre

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But no scientific evidence points to this. If it did I think the world would undoubtedly be christian. The further we go the more we find that does not coincide with the bible or any other religions.
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The 'scientific' evidence is very questionable and clearly has an agenda. Have you heard they have actually found tissue from a T-rex with DNA in it? I mean they claim this DNA is 65 million years old but if you would of asked them 5 years ago they would told you there is no way the DNA could of survived for a few thousand years. It's a joke and then the bury and discredit any information that they can't explain, like the simple footprint fossils like the Alvis Delk Cretaceous Footprint where it show a perfect human footprint(including arch) on which a dinosaur stepped on.

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miktre

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jag1977 said:
Check and read again....
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2*The same was in the beginning with God.

3*All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4*In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5*And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
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That scripture is not contrary to my post so I don't know what your point is.
 
jag1977

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It's actually pretty simple.
 
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[SUP]22 [/SUP]How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
 
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Tintin

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The age of the earth is actually geology.
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Yes, but these ages are determined by fallible humans with a bent to explaining everything without the need for a God (humanism). They project their evolutionary understanding onto the evidence.
 
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MidniteWelder

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Karraster said:
[SUP]Proverbs 1: 22 [/SUP]How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
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Ever heard that Anacronym K.I.S.S.
The simple ones will usually pattern their entire life after that concept.
 
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Tintin

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jag1977 said:
Evolution is also true. We came from the animal kingdom and some lineage of the ape. God guided humanity. When we received his spirit we started a branch off that lineage, our evolution began. Genetics do not drive evolution. Our evolution started and followed our spiritual evolution over time. No other animal has evolved but humanity from that point to present. The only way we can continue to evolve is through spiritual progression following learning and understanding through God.
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Evolution can't be proved. There's no evidence for the transitions from fish to person etc. These are ghost lineages. They have no evidence but they make up connections to prove evolution is true. When you believe in something that requires deep time, it takes a lot of faith to make everything work. Much more faith than is required to believe in the biblical account as laid out in Genesis.
 
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Tintin said:
Yes, but these ages are determined by fallible humans with a bent to explaining everything without the need for a God (humanism). They project their evolutionary understanding onto the evidence.
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and they use (circular) reasoning as well....
 
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Tintin said:
Yes, but these ages are determined by fallible humans with a bent to explaining everything without the need for a God (humanism). They project their evolutionary understanding onto the evidence.
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God is every inspired WORD, theory, religious teaching etc etc out of humanity since realization of the logos. If you condemn evolution you condemn his WORD. This is the truth that the only false teaching out of your brethren is your choice to condemn that word rather than spending eternity trying to lift up your brethren in pure love searching till the end of time to find truth in those teachings. The folly is my own when I cannot find God in all things.
 
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Tintin said:
Evolution can't be proved. There's no evidence for the transitions from fish to person etc. These are ghost lineages. They have no evidence but they make up connections to prove evolution is true. When you believe in something that requires deep time, it takes a lot of faith to make everything work. Much more faith than is required to believe in the biblical account as laid out in Genesis.
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My understanding did not include a fish.
 
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jag1977 said:
God is every inspired WORD, theory, religious teaching etc etc out of humanity since realization of the logos. If you condemn evolution you condemn his WORD. ....................
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Do you actually read the bible? Do you really think God looks like a monkey?

From a non-biblical standpoint there are 2 things that deny evolution.
Emotions and procreation.
 
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jag1977 said:
God is every inspired WORD, theory, religious teaching etc etc out of humanity since realization of the logos. If you condemn evolution you condemn his WORD. This is the truth that the only false teaching out of your brethren is your choice to condemn that word rather than spending eternity trying to lift up your brethren in pure love searching till the end of time to find truth in those teachings. The folly is my own when I cannot find God in all things.
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It is because I seek God's Truth that I don't accept humanistic religions like evolutionary theory as truth. I really don't see how that condemns His Word. Rather such an understanding magnifies His Word and seeks to uphold His Truth. God isn't just about love, He's also about being the only Absolute Truth by which we are to govern everything - our words and actions, our though-processes etc.
 
jag1977

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phil112 said:
Do you actually read the bible? Do you really think God looks like a monkey?

From a non-biblical standpoint there are 2 things that deny evolution.
Emotions and procreation.
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Why do you think I have been smoking something? There is no other explanation other than truth from God. I have been smoking through thousands of pages of books....including the bible. Thanks for noticing my labor, brother!
 
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miktre

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dcontroversal said:
John 3:16...For God so loved the (COSMOS) whole order of things

Romans 8:22.. For we KNOW that the WHOLE CREATION groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. verse 23 tells what they are groaning for...the adoption!
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Taking John 3:16 a bit out of context where if you read the the complete thought it no doubt is referring to man and no mention of animals or him dying for example a shoe even though a shoe is part of the cosmos.

As for Romans 8:22 I don't think you can insert whatever you want there. Again the subject is clearly man.
Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
We become the the children of God not cockroaches.
 
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