So now you are really pushing your claim of faith. In the above scriptures you now claim that "after its kind" is a classification of species however you reject the very thing that proposed and defined classifications of species based on genetics, evolution! Why do I have to continue to battle through these arguments? Don't you understand that you are naming gods creation after your worldly experiences? After its kind is intended for clean spiritual interpretation, FEMININE AND MASCULINE. Let me instead of just giving you the fish (masculine/feminine), teach you how to fish (arrive at clean spiritual interpretation). APPLY EVERY INTERPRETATION AS IF IT WERE THE DAYS ADAM AND EVE KNEW THEM IN EDEN. Humanity stop defiling God's intentions with their own accounts. I mean really, when God arrives and suffers in the flesh to save them they still choose otherwise where else is help found for them? There is nothing left for them but to cast them into lake. If Jesus Christ can't save you, what else is there? I really appreciate your efforts and teachings but im sorry brother, I do not eat garbage. It's for the unclean.
The End of Times.
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That may sound good - and maybe even preach well - but, based on the Strongs definition - I don't think it is accurate...
And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. ~ Revelation 22:6
Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. ~ Revelation 22:7
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. ~ Revelation 22:10
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. ~ Revelation 22:12
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. ~ Revelation 22:20
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Consider:
Strong's G1096 for "come to pass" in Revelation 1:1
1) to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being
2) to become, i.e. to come to pass, happen a) of events
3) to arise, appear in history, come upon the stage a) of men appearing in public
4) to be made, finished a) of miracles, to be performed, wrought
5) to become, be made
When I cannot find a specific definition tied to a particular usage - I generally use the first one, which is usually the most common usage. And, since most of these definitions carry with it the idea of "beginning and continuing" anyway -- I am going to suggest that the true "sense and tense" of the phrase 'Must Shortly Come To Pass' actually means "Must Shortly Begin To Come To Pass"...
And - yes - the phrase "shortly come to pass" in Revelation 1:1 and the phrase "shortly be done" in Revelation 22:6 are the same in the Greek.
"Something to think about..."
Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. ~ Revelation 22:7
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. ~ Revelation 22:10
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. ~ Revelation 22:12
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. ~ Revelation 22:20
...
Consider:
Strong's G1096 for "come to pass" in Revelation 1:1
1) to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being
2) to become, i.e. to come to pass, happen a) of events
3) to arise, appear in history, come upon the stage a) of men appearing in public
4) to be made, finished a) of miracles, to be performed, wrought
5) to become, be made
When I cannot find a specific definition tied to a particular usage - I generally use the first one, which is usually the most common usage. And, since most of these definitions carry with it the idea of "beginning and continuing" anyway -- I am going to suggest that the true "sense and tense" of the phrase 'Must Shortly Come To Pass' actually means "Must Shortly Begin To Come To Pass"...
And - yes - the phrase "shortly come to pass" in Revelation 1:1 and the phrase "shortly be done" in Revelation 22:6 are the same in the Greek.
"Something to think about..."
2 Peter 3:3-9 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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Your focus is on G5034. My focus is on G1096.
must G1163 shortly G1722 G5034 come to pass G1096
The whole phrase - all of the words taken together - mean:
"Must Shortly Begin To Come To Pass"
The "Begin To" is part of G1096.
Using the bolded words from your G5034 above -- it is saying:
"After only a brief space (of time), [ these ] things will begin to come to pass."
The ~ 2000 years is "associated" with the meaning of G1096, not the meaning of G5034.
Go back and read the 'GRA' quote in post #62 again...
EDIT: The verse does not say how long it will take for the 'things' to all come to pass; it only says that it will be a short time until the 'things' begin to come to pass.
must G1163 shortly G1722 G5034 come to pass G1096
The whole phrase - all of the words taken together - mean:
"Must Shortly Begin To Come To Pass"
The "Begin To" is part of G1096.
Using the bolded words from your G5034 above -- it is saying:
"After only a brief space (of time), [ these ] things will begin to come to pass."
The ~ 2000 years is "associated" with the meaning of G1096, not the meaning of G5034.
Go back and read the 'GRA' quote in post #62 again...
EDIT: The verse does not say how long it will take for the 'things' to all come to pass; it only says that it will be a short time until the 'things' begin to come to pass.
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