Are ANONYMOUS hackers using conspiracy theorists to groom the world for takeover?

[1still_waters]

The group known as ANONYMOUS may be leading a coming worldwide revolution done by hackers. They will seize control by hacking financial institutions, government institutions, and centers of commerce. It may be the first ever world revolution done by technology, and not done by weapons, and military.

Every leader of a revolution needs to find a way to gain trust of the population. How are the ANONYMOUS lead hackers going to gain trust?

I suggest they are grooming our trust through proliferation of numerous conspiracy theories. They want us to trust our governments less, and to trust them more. That way when they hack, and seize control of government, finances, and commerce, they'll be viewed as liberators, and not oppressors.

They've been busy the last few years trying to win our trust through various altruistic looking missions.

2011: The Year Anonymous Took On Cops, Dictators and Existential Dread

2011: The Year Anonymous Took On Cops, Dictators and Existential Dread | Threat Level | Wired.com

Anonymous has taken on governments, banks, and religion as you can see from the link above. This could only be the beginning.

They may have already done a dry run to communicate their message to the masses once they take everything over. They've already hacked the Emergency Broadcast System.

This Is Not a Test: Emergency Broadcast Systems Proved Hackable

This Is Not a Test: Emergency Broadcast Systems Proved Hackable | Threat Level | Wired.com

This should be concerning to those who buy into, and proliferate various conspiracy theories. They could be using you to further their own agenda. What is that agenda?

Their agenda may be way worse. They've been linked to Occupy Wall Street, which in fact is VERY socialist Remember that whole war against the 1%?

Occupy Wall Street And Anonymous: Turning A Fledgling Movement Into A Meme

Occupy Wall Street And Anonymous: Turning A Fledgling Movement Into A Meme


Just be careful folks, before you go supporting all of these theories. You may unknowingly be helping some very corrupt and devious socialists groom the world for their evil takeover.

 

[Angela53510]

I knew all these conspiracies were just a conspiracy to be used by some force for evil!

 

[J-Kay-2]

Before we totally dismiss some warnings as being conspiracy,
we really do need to be prepared. I don't dismiss the fact hacking
is going on by this method. I can say even Facebook on the side
of our homepage tries to lure people by saying "if you like....."
click here. Personally I won't click on anything because they are
after more info. Just this afternoon I heard at least 78% of our
privacy is out there in "internet space."

I tend to listen to what 'conspiracy issues' may have to say and
judge with what I hope to be.... wisdom. This is simply my opinion.
I am not denying what the OP is saying is untrue. I will be more on
guard now that this warning has been put here to read. Thanks

 

[Grey]

short answer, no.

 

[kayem77]

I was just reading something about them earlier. They're all over the world. They have stirred controversy in Mexico, the US, Spain, and who knows where else. But I doubt they will actually start a revolution. I don't know exactly what they are against but some of the things they have said about Mexico's government are true, so I don't think they're liars necessarily. They are only a group of people tired of corruption, in my opinion, but then again, I don't know what their exact goal is.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

The Anonymous Group is fairly new and it has been fun to watch them develop over the years. Quite interesting to research indeed. I would call them a secret society. Like all secret societies they seem divided amongst themselves and in active competition and hostility to the other many countless secret societies (which of course is ironic and hilarious). And as with my opinion on our friends in the Illuminati, Masonry, and other such societies I hold that they are their own worst enemy.

From my understanding of Anonymous it is more or less a collective of individuals and groups brought together under one common moniker, that of Anonymous, one philosophy, anonymous internet activity, and of course their primary symbol being that of the Guy Fawkes Mask (which I always found ironic, but we'll touch on that at another time). They do indeed put forth many conspiracies just like all groups and one can clearly see each individual's agenda within the conspiracy they themself put forth. Now just like masonry, not all Anonymous Members (also called Anons) are bad. You must remember, Anonymous is not as formalized as the other secret societies, and by their philosophy and logic anyone can be Anonymous simply by invoking or maintaining anonymity.

We can also see where Anonymous has both benefits (ie: ability to report legit crime without fear of reprisal) and also drawbacks, (ie: the ease with which other groups can infiltrate them). I have seen interesting news stories where it is alleged the terrorist group Hamas has used the banner of Anonymous to further their agenda. On the other hand, being an Ohioan, I also know a local teen used the banner of Anonymous to basically blow a lid off of the corruption in Steubenville and also to get justice for a rape victim in the infamous Steubenville Rape Case.

So I would say just as with all secret societies and conspiracies, be cautious. Not everything they say is false, not everything they say is true either though. Simply weigh them and research. Either way, love em or hate em, they are quite a fascinating piece of modern phenomena for better or worse that is worthy of some study in my opinion.

 

[J-Kay-2]

The Anonymous Group is fairly new and it has been fun to watch them develop over the years. Quite interesting to research indeed. I would call them a secret society. Like all secret societies they seem divided amongst themselves and in active competition and hostility to the other many countless secret societies (which of course is ironic and hilarious). And as with my opinion on our friends in the Illuminati, Masonry, and other such societies I hold that they are their own worst enemy.

I had no idea there is a group called Anonymous. When I have listened to teaching on Illuminati and other societies, this one got by me. You can tell I don't go to every You Tube Video. I try to be cautious.

We can also see where Anonymous has both benefits (ie: ability to report legit crime without fear of reprisal) and also drawbacks, (ie: the ease with which other groups can infiltrate them). I have seen interesting news stories where it is alleged the terrorist group Hamas has used the banner of Anonymous to further their agenda. On the other hand, being an Ohioan, I also know a local teen used the banner of Anonymous to basically blow a lid off of the corruption in Steubenville and also to get justice for a rape victim in the infamous Steubenville Rape Case.

I am not all that far from
Steubenville, and know a little about the case.

So I would say just as with all secret societies and conspiracies, be cautious. Not everything they say is false, not everything they say is true either though. Simply weigh them and research. Either way, love em or hate em, they are quite a fascinating piece of modern phenomena for better or worse that is worthy of some study in my opinion.

I do believe we really need to use wisdom about what we read or watch. I find looking back on some
You Tube video titles, many who thought they were right, turned out to be wrong. Then I also think there
are people who ride on coat tails of someone just to appear to be 'wise' as the person who posts.
I am learning also, there are many who simply want the attention so they tell you what they had to eat
for breakfast. Wow, I am impressed. NOT ~ Anyway, some of the videos I think can be faked, and I
know you know that, so I am not saying anything knew. I appreciate your info. I did learn something.

 

[J-Kay-2]

Sorry for the messy page. I still have not caught on how to do quotes
without the entire message. Obviously ~ Thanks again ~

 

[ww_21]

Actually, I like Anonymous. They're a bunch of great people if you get to know them not to mention they stuck up for people.

Not sure if you all know of this but a child was being bullied on Twitter by school mates, they told her to go kill herself etc and she was suicidal about it. One of the guys from anonymous stepped up and spoke out against the bullies and pretty soon more members stepped in and the bullying stopped. They saved a child's life.

Another person, Amanda Todd may she R.I.P she was a victim of bullying and committed suicide because of it. They reportedly exposed the person who blackmailed her and resulted in her death. I say reportedly because I stopped following the story so I have no idea what came of it.

Another instance is this game I play, the company was treating both it's employees and players pretty badly until anonymous stepped in and told them they would be shut down if there were no changes.

I believe this group is targeted and labelled as the bad guys but they are really nice people.

 

[J-Kay-2]

It seems there are good and bad people in any group. The main thing is, in my opinion,
God leads us and we do all we do the way that is pleasing to Him. I realize that is not
going to happen. But, He uses those who are willing to do good no matter if they are
Christian or not. It sounds like this group has done its share of good.

I remember the case of the one 12 yr. old taking her life due to bullying.
I pray the group will continue to do all the good possible. Life is so fragile. God bless.

 

[GaryA]

Sorry for the messy page. I still have not caught on how to do quotes
without the entire message. Obviously ~ Thanks again ~

The main thing is to preserve the [QUOTE] and [/QUOTE] tags when you edit...

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without the entire message. Obviously ~ Thanks again ~

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[dcontroversal]

The group known as ANONYMOUS may be leading a coming worldwide revolution done by hackers. They will seize control by hacking financial institutions, government institutions, and centers of commerce. It may be the first ever world revolution done by technology, and not done by weapons, and military.

Every leader of a revolution needs to find a way to gain trust of the population. How are the ANONYMOUS lead hackers going to gain trust?

I suggest they are grooming our trust through proliferation of numerous conspiracy theories. They want us to trust our governments less, and to trust them more. That way when they hack, and seize control of government, finances, and commerce, they'll be viewed as liberators, and not oppressors.

They've been busy the last few years trying to win our trust through various altruistic looking missions.

2011: The Year Anonymous Took On Cops, Dictators and Existential Dread

2011: The Year Anonymous Took On Cops, Dictators and Existential Dread | Threat Level | Wired.com

Anonymous has taken on governments, banks, and religion as you can see from the link above. This could only be the beginning.

They may have already done a dry run to communicate their message to the masses once they take everything over. They've already hacked the Emergency Broadcast System.

This Is Not a Test: Emergency Broadcast Systems Proved Hackable

This Is Not a Test: Emergency Broadcast Systems Proved Hackable | Threat Level | Wired.com

This should be concerning to those who buy into, and proliferate various conspiracy theories. They could be using you to further their own agenda. What is that agenda?

Their agenda may be way worse. They've been linked to Occupy Wall Street, which in fact is VERY socialist Remember that whole war against the 1%?

Occupy Wall Street And Anonymous: Turning A Fledgling Movement Into A Meme

Occupy Wall Street And Anonymous: Turning A Fledgling Movement Into A Meme


Just be careful folks, before you go supporting all of these theories. You may unknowingly be helping some very corrupt and devious socialists groom the world for their evil takeover.

Without a doubt there is a world wide conspiracy against God (Psalm 2) and God's plan. It seems that there are numerous levels to the said conspiracy. I have person friends who are in (so called) high places that are telling me some things that I will not repeat as my door would end up getting kicked in by unidentifiable (government) shock troops if you will. I agree with you that it will be more (electronic) as opposed to the physical, which will seem to come after the (result) of what you are warning us about. One of my friends spent 25 years in Marine Corp Intelligence (command and control center) and now works for the agency that keeps and eye on the N.S.A and has told some scary stuff to my brother and I. It would seen that the end of the age is around the corner and very soon it is going to get real bad for us in this country as most are blind to what is coming.

 

[Jhana]

It's funny that this is about anonymous, as a group, trying to gain control by hacking financial institutions and corporate companies, initially, whenever the financial institutions and corporations themselves are, in my opinion, the biggest means by which freedom of movement, equality, universal human rights and anything else productive towards a better world are subverted.

Our whole global financial and business institutions work on a morally inept and unsustainable premise, generally.

First and foremost, the whole thing is based on money. If I go down to the shop, I best have money if I want anything. These privately owned banks create money, (money, which equates to the power to do something, to buy something, to go somewhere, to eat, to have shelter, to be clothed) which they lend to governments, then charge the same governments interest on the money. This means a national debt that peoples' taxes have to pay.

If the taxes don't amount to a sufficient number to pay national debts, then the governments have to borrow more money or raise taxes. The longer this goes on, the more pressure is put on the average person. Inevitably, after a certain amount of time, the system crashes, the country's debts spiral out of control and the bankers not only become extremely rich, but the country's ability to borrow from the banks, and thus maintain financial stability, is further diminished by a lowered credit rating.

If the country, for instance, via its federal reserve, decides to print money, this only leads to inflation, since it is not governments who set the value of moneys, but private financial institutions.

In essence, the whole system is geared towards destroying a country's economic power, making bankers rich, and inevitably, leading to a bank-dominated society whereby the average person becomes poorer and poorer, governments become less and less powerful, and bankers get richer.

Not only that, now we have governments panicking. The US is in the middle east, taking over countries that are oil-rich. No coincidence that oil is our most valuable commodity at present. The irony in this is that while the governments are seizing control of the oil nations, oil-oligarchs are running the businesses that sell it.

There are very, very, very few nations now that institute laws that mean that the country as a governmental institution owns that country's resources. What you get then, is a government killing thousands of people every year, war, enmity between nations and all the while private oligarchs are selling oil to other people and these people are selling it to the masses after a massive government tax on it.

The people are getting taxed for buying the oil ( the same oil that the governments spent millions of pounds of the citizens' taxes funding the armies in order to be able to take over the countries where the oil exists), and the bankers are in the middle of it all deciding the value of currency and thus, the extent to which they can drain the world dry at any given time should it take their fancy.

It's absolutely ridiculous and absurd.

The world needs to wake up and realize that money, as a premise all of its own, makes the majority of us very poor. And groups like anonymous understand the premise. It's not about taking control of the world, it's about forcing the hand of the powerful into doing something meaningful with it.

There's no reason for a currency society. There just isn't. There's no reason that banks need to be privately owned and not government instituted. And there's absolutely no reason that a private bank-owner should have license to dictate the value of the world's currency and thus, by proxy, the power of the world's people to live, to eat, to be clothed and to have shelter.

The whole thing doesn't work.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Interesting articles 1still_waters and I certainly agree with your healthy skepticism regarding this group but I would extend that healthy skepticism to the governments and organizations they come into conflict with as well.

To date, I think they've done more good than harm; however, in the end they may do more harm than good though that remains to be seen. Hopefully not.

You said, "The group known as ANONYMOUS may be leading a coming worldwide revolution done by hackers. They will seize control by hacking financial institutions, government institutions, and centers of commerce. It may be the first ever world revolution done by technology, and not done by weapons, and military."

I have to admit, ever since the Great Hacker War of 1990-1991 I've been a bit in awe of what they are capable of with regards to appropriating the technology of governments and organizations.

But I wouldn't overestimate their ability either. I don't view them as more powerful than say the Chinese military unit which has managed to appropriate most of the world's military, industrial, and business secrets in under two decades.... something even the Soviet Union couldn't accomplish during the Cold War.

I don't see how they could defeat the world's governments and largest organizations in a sweeping comprehensive win/lose scenario like you laid out merely through hacking activities.

I also agree with GodisSalvation that they have a lot of internal conflicts of the type that has existed in all secret societies.

But it is clear that they are adept and powerful and often successfully complete tactical missions to accomplish limited objectives. There is NO denying that they are a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Historicist]

It's funny that this is about anonymous, as a group, trying to gain control by hacking financial institutions and corporate companies, initially, whenever the financial institutions and corporations themselves are, in my opinion, the biggest means by which freedom of movement, equality, universal human rights and anything else productive towards a better world are subverted.

Our whole global financial and business institutions work on a morally inept and unsustainable premise, generally.

First and foremost, the whole thing is based on money. If I go down to the shop, I best have money if I want anything. These privately owned banks create money, (money, which equates to the power to do something, to buy something, to go somewhere, to eat, to have shelter, to be clothed) which they lend to governments, then charge the same governments interest on the money. This means a national debt that peoples' taxes have to pay.

If the taxes don't amount to a sufficient number to pay national debts, then the governments have to borrow more money or raise taxes. The longer this goes on, the more pressure is put on the average person. Inevitably, after a certain amount of time, the system crashes, the country's debts spiral out of control and the bankers not only become extremely rich, but the country's ability to borrow from the banks, and thus maintain financial stability, is further diminished by a lowered credit rating.

If the country, for instance, via its federal reserve, decides to print money, this only leads to inflation, since it is not governments who set the value of moneys, but private financial institutions.

In essence, the whole system is geared towards destroying a country's economic power, making bankers rich, and inevitably, leading to a bank-dominated society whereby the average person becomes poorer and poorer, governments become less and less powerful, and bankers get richer.

Not only that, now we have governments panicking. The US is in the middle east, taking over countries that are oil-rich. No coincidence that oil is our most valuable commodity at present. The irony in this is that while the governments are seizing control of the oil nations, oil-oligarchs are running the businesses that sell it.

There are very, very, very few nations now that institute laws that mean that the country as a governmental institution owns that country's resources. What you get then, is a government killing thousands of people every year, war, enmity between nations and all the while private oligarchs are selling oil to other people and these people are selling it to the masses after a massive government tax on it.

The people are getting taxed for buying the oil ( the same oil that the governments spent millions of pounds of the citizens' taxes funding the armies in order to be able to take over the countries where the oil exists), and the bankers are in the middle of it all deciding the value of currency and thus, the extent to which they can drain the world dry at any given time should it take their fancy.

It's absolutely ridiculous and absurd.

The world needs to wake up and realize that money, as a premise all of its own, makes the majority of us very poor. And groups like anonymous understand the premise. It's not about taking control of the world, it's about forcing the hand of the powerful into doing something meaningful with it.

There's no reason for a currency society. There just isn't. There's no reason that banks need to be privately owned and not government instituted. And there's absolutely no reason that a private bank-owner should have license to dictate the value of the world's currency and thus, by proxy, the power of the world's people to live, to eat, to be clothed and to have shelter.

The whole thing doesn't work.

Jhana, you are correct, and this evil you accurately describe, is the economic arm of "Mystery, Babylon The Great" (Rev. 17:5). This invisible government, is a "mystery," is unseen by most evangelicals. Having been duped by the futurist establishment that the "Mystery" is future only they have allowed it to fly in under the radar. It is here, and now, but they do not see it. Told, and believing, that conspiracies exist in theory only ("conspiracy theories") they do not recognize the political, economic, and religious Babylon "...that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth" (Rev. 17:18).

 

[KittenofMelchisedek]

It's nice to find myself agreeing with some of you guys, cuz I know we don't ever agree on anything in scripture =P

If you're thinking about whether something electronic can be hacked, I say absolutely. If your thinking that hacking a financial institution would amount to taking it over, though, I'm not so sure.

People (billionaires) own the money personally, they invest it securely in their bank, if someone hacks in they may well be able to steal, but the bankers can just say, poo on you, that wasn't real money, the real money is the gold in their vault. And afterwards they may get to make money on any that was stolen.

Also, the "Occupy" thing.....most of the people I knew that were involved in that, have no clue, they don't even know what socialism is, they were just a bunch of kids. I know of many who's parent's are in the 1% their kids were protesting. It's hard to pick apart who is working for who. Like that 'infowars' guy, he's running interference for the ones he claims he's against. Not everyone knows they're participating in something icky, some just follow the crowd.

I always thought of Anonymous as more of a collective of hackers, some may have totally different agendas.

 

[David_1]

I suggest they are grooming our trust through proliferation of numerous conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy nuts are like violins. They are definitely being played.
They have kinds of buttons to press that opportunists are pushing.
I would say, this is what is happening to Christians by Conservative politicians. (I see it on the left too, I just resent the general assumption that a Christian will only vote for the one party. A party that likes to start wars and collapse economies).

Alex Jones, plays a lot of violins and makes a lot of bank.

So the real conspiracies? Never get examined.

 

[Jhana]

Jhana, you are correct, and this evil you accurately describe, is the economic arm of "Mystery, Babylon The Great" (Rev. 17:5). This invisible government, is a "mystery," is unseen by most evangelicals. Having been duped by the futurist establishment that the "Mystery" is future only they have allowed it to fly in under the radar. It is here, and now, but they do not see it. Told, and believing, that conspiracies exist in theory only ("conspiracy theories") they do not recognize the political, economic, and religious Babylon "...that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth" (Rev. 17:18).

I also find it disturbingly ironic that these same people in control engineer the means for a continued enmity between the people of the world - the same people of the world who are under the assumption that working or fighting to gain money or control (money which those in control print and so own) is for all intents and purposes a positive contribution to the world or their society. Any control sized by these means is only an illusion. Any strife or fighting in order to get this 'control', is always succeeded by still working towards monetary gain, so it's is a futile exercise in giving those in control a helping hand to maintain it.

We should all withdraw every penny of the money we own and see how the system really works.

 

[Historicist]

"The individual is handicapped by coming to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover

 

[Historicist]

Conspiracy nuts are like violins. They are definitely being played.
They have kinds of buttons to press that opportunists are pushing.
I would say, this is what is happening to Christians by Conservative politicians. (I see it on the left too, I just resent the general assumption that a Christian will only vote for the one party. A party that likes to start wars and collapse economies).

Alex Jones, plays a lot of violins and makes a lot of bank.

So the real conspiracies? Never get examined.

We should not naively assume that conspiracies exist in theory only. History proves otherwise.