Should guns be used for self defense?

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Still4faith

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I believe guns are a valuable part of our culture and are for far more than self defense. They keep us from being controlled and enslaved. I think it keeps you from being a victim. For this thread though, yes self defense is very important.
 

Rachel20

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It's pretty simple, all of these firearms threads are about conflating American cultural imperialism with Christianity. If you respond at all to them then that simply validates their position as something worth listen to.

Matt 7:6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.



You're right.

They're right too.

I didn't realize that, many Americans lived in constant fear of their lives, that they needed to carry a gun with them at all times.

America does not represent the whole world.
However, 300 million guns are in hands of civilians in this country and of course, chances of extreme violence , armed robberies, muggings, shootouts, suicides, and accidental deaths would seem to increase with the increase in ease of access to such arms.

It's a self feeding cycle.

In such a case, it's better Americans have guns.


I thought there were other means for self defence, however, clearly if my American brethren prefer guns, then we should support it too.

I mean, the whole point of asking and creating firearm threads is validation from us right? If I had a gun, however, I wouldn't be seeking the approval or justifying it (let alone talking about it) unless I had a propaganda and I wanted all Christians to accept that.

However, it doesn't matter what I think. :)

Guns are awesome!

In fact here's a thread, solely for the glorification of these guns, where news reports of ''positive'' stories of gun use in self defense are posted.


Click here to read about the glorification of guns.


Guys, let's make this clear. This thread (at the OP's request)is for posting news stories about the positive use of firearms for self defense only.

Any further posts not within the intended purpose of this thread will be removed.


 
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I didn't realize that, many Americans lived in constant fear of their lives, that they needed to carry a gun with them at all times.
Promoting constant fear for our lives through psychological conditioning is the main purpose of the Department of Homeland Security--read between the lines--"[n]ot that anyone is really paying attention.".

-> Color-coded threat system to be replaced in April - CNN.com

"The much-maligned, color-coded Homeland Security Advisory System is about to be consigned to the proverbial dustbin of history.

Not that anyone is really paying attention.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is expected to announce Thursday that the almost 9-year-old threat alert system will go away in April. It will be replaced by the new National Terror Advisory System that will ..."
 
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#45
I believe in using a gun/weapon for self-defense,but i also know that GOD looks at the heart,i mean that there is a difference in killing someone in self defense and killing them in anger.
 
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The Biblical Self Defense Song 2.0

[video=youtube;Xztur6-d-lY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xztur6-d-lY[/video]
 
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mellowED

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#47
Yes, When you or a family member or friend are in danger, you should use anything that is available as a weapon.
 
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jimmydiggs

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#48
IN THIS THREAD:

People who say you should not use guns, because you're not trusting God. Yet, they also use contraception because they don't trust God.
 

JimJimmers

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1. You should have read Toska's post!!! The moment those dogs start barking crazy, you call the police concerning a break-in and the cops are usually there is 5 minutes. And I am willing to bet you that before he kills both dogs, he will be partially ripped & torn by those dogs. Leaving a trail of blood for the police to follow. It is rare that intruders can get pass aggressive, well trained dogs. I'll put my money on the dogs any day.
2. It was only recent that Metro Denver initiated the conceal weapon program and I like the fact that it had some great checks & balances that made the program effective .... unlike Florida
3. Agree with you about firearms & children
4. Agree, the rural areas are much more connected & responsible with firearms than their big city neighbors.
Police response times vary widely depending on where you live. Also, I think it's a fair point that dogs send over 2 million children to the hospital every year.
 
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ryancasper15

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if u have gun need for self defense for your family if someone breaks in u have use it i know how shot gun so do my brothers we took gun safty courses
 
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1still_waters

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Pro-gun and anti-gun people have something in common. They both dislike it when someone misuses a gun to harm an innocent victim. Pro-gun and anti-gun people differ, in that the pro-gun people think the innocent victim has a right to be armed so she doesn't become a victim in the first place.

Thus making the pro-gunners the most intellectually consistent. The anti-gunners claim to stand for the victim, but they illogically deny them the one thing that could prevent them from becoming a victim.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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1still_waters made an astute statement. He's exactly right. Along with gun ownership; however, comes real responsibility. My generation was trained in the use of firearms in manifold ways. Get this, our schools used to train us to use them responsibly. You heard that right. We had gun safety courses in high school in the old days.

Scouting organizations also trained young people with respect to gun safety and issued badges for the successful completion of gun safety courses.



Of course, two parent nuclear families with traditional values and morals were the norm when I was a kid and our fathers taught us gun safety and most of my generation had firearms in high school.

I would argue that building strong families and teaching gun safety are two activities that government can engage in to bring desirable results in our society.

Unfortunately, government appears to have little interest in accomplishing those two objectives instead promoting sexual immorality and exercising government authoritarianism.


if u have gun need for self defense for your family if someone breaks in u have use it i know how shot gun so do my brothers we took gun safty courses
 
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jimmydiggs

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The gubmint ain't the biggest problem yo.
 
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I Just Shot Myself!

1still_waters made an astute statement. He's exactly right. Along with gun ownership; however, comes real responsibility. My generation was trained in the use of firearms in manifold ways. Get this, our schools used to train us to use them responsibly. You heard that right. We had gun safety courses in high school in the old days.

Scouting organizations also trained young people with respect to gun safety and issued badges for the successful completion of gun safety courses.



Of course, two parent nuclear families with traditional values and morals were the norm when I was a kid and our fathers taught us gun safety and most of my generation had firearms in high school.

I would argue that building strong families and teaching gun safety are two activities that government can engage in to bring desirable results in our society.

Unfortunately, government appears to have little interest in accomplishing those two objectives instead promoting sexual immorality and exercising government authoritarianism.


WARNING: THERE IS POTENTIALLY OBJECTIONABLE LANGUAGE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS VIDEO, VIEW AT YOUR DISCRETION

[video=youtube;zYvAxLX6OzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzE[/video]
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Seriously, you can't stop it gun control nuts. Even resorting to Soviet Union style totalitarianism isn't going to stop it. Change your position from forcing tyranny on the American public to building moral healthy strong families and teaching gun safety and you'll get much better results. A bonus is that you won't be despised for being tyrants.

[video=youtube_share;VKQUMIfTHh4]http://youtu.be/VKQUMIfTHh4[/video]
 
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Gun Safety

[video=youtube;kQrlDUIZ3f0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQrlDUIZ3f0[/video]


"All guns are always loaded."

"The best safety is the one between your ears."


Child Gun Safety - YouTube
 
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danschance

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Pro-gun and anti-gun people have something in common. They both dislike it when someone misuses a gun to harm an innocent victim. Pro-gun and anti-gun people differ, in that the pro-gun people think the innocent victim has a right to be armed so she doesn't become a victim in the first place.

Thus making the pro-gunners the most intellectually consistent. The anti-gunners claim to stand for the victim, but they illogically deny them the one thing that could prevent them from becoming a victim.
In every state where conceal and carry weapon permit has been legal, violent crime has dropped consistently. Yet we did see what was a bad indecent of this law when Zimmerman killed Tryvon Martin. Still I think we should all be for whatever drops the crime rate. It becomes even more important in a post 911 society to defend itself from terrorism. A police offer told me he had been briefed that terrorists do see a problem where citizens are armed. This police officer said that if terrorists were to enter a busy shopping mall and coral citizens to a single area to be executed the only problem would be armed citizens. Unfortunately, I live in California where it is very hard to get a CCW permit.