Are ANONYMOUS hackers using conspiracy theorists to groom the world for takeover?

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David has a valid point. It's not that conspiracy theories are wrong...it's that satan is good at slight of hand. So every institution has an off color joke of an enemy that's there to make money off the fear of the people.

People that exploit fear for financial gain are being used by satan, and may even think they are doing a good deed and that their financial success is a sign of Gods favor.

The NSA has Alex Jones
The RCC has Adventists

The USA has a two party set up, but it is NOT a DEMOCRACY....it doesn't matter who you vote for. We live in a republic, who while insisting the whole world embrace democracy, gets less democratic all the time.

Also, forget about the republican party, it's a sinking ship. There were many well meaning people involved, but they are bailing now because leadership sold out. Besides that, you can't have an intelligent discussion with most liberals, without them regurgitating propaganda like ahh ahh war on women ahh ahh row v wade ahh they hate babies. So more and more people are pulling out of the republican party, and realizing that it never mattered to start with, because for all there's more than one party, there's only one government and one lawless president.

The people in charge want us to be so concerned that we narrow our focus to something small, taking our eyes off the bigger picture, which people want to do, because the big picture sucks and it hurts to look so most just don't.
 
Historicist said:
We should not naively assume that conspiracies exist in theory only. History proves otherwise.
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the irony here is that history proves that conspiracy theorists are actually -terrible- at exposing conspiracies...

it wasn't conspiracy theorists that exposed watergate...it wasn't conspiracy theorists that exposed NSA wiretapping...

conspiracy theorists -completely miss- the -real- conspiracies while they are busy chasing after red herring conspiracy theories that are -never- vindicated...

conspiracy theorists could not be doing a better job of -distracting- people from -real- conspiracies if they were trying...

...or maybe they -are- trying to do just that?
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
conspiracy theorists completely miss the real conspiracies while they are busy chasing after red herring conspiracy theories that are never vindicated.
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RachelBibleStudent said:
the irony here is that history proves that conspiracy theorists are actually -terrible- at exposing conspiracies...

it wasn't conspiracy theorists that exposed watergate...it wasn't conspiracy theorists that exposed NSA wiretapping...

conspiracy theorists -completely miss- the -real- conspiracies while they are busy chasing after red herring conspiracy theories that are -never- vindicated...

conspiracy theorists could not be doing a better job of -distracting- people from -real- conspiracies if they were trying...

...or maybe they -are- trying to do just that?
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Yeah I'm thinking most CT are getting gamed, and as they turn over every little stone looking for a trojan horse, what they don't realize is that they are the trojan horse, and they're helping build the trojan horse.

These Anonymous revolutionaries are a different strain of revolutionary. In the past if you wanted to overturn the establishment you had to show your face and risk your life. These folks won't show their face, and they honestly aren't putting much skin in the game. Which begs the question...is that the kind of revolutionary we want to follow?

This post isn't just something I came up with on my own. I know someone with many years in foreign intelligence, and they have major contingency plans for a major attack from these Anon hackers who will try and overthrow the world. They may have a few altruistic looking causes, but trust me, that's just to build trust. They're more corrupt than any established government on this planet.
 
If there is a conspiracy, it's not about microchips/RFD/etc, it's not about NSA NWO, it's not about 911 truth.

It's about people who can, with a few keyboard strokes, shut down the banks, transfer the wealth, shut down commerce, shut down infrastructure, control military weapons, and hold the entire world hostage to their demands all while hiding anonymously behind a keyboard.

911 truth, nsa, nwo, rfid chips, and the like are just things causing people to chase their tails, as the real potential "conspiracy" flies under the radar.
 
KittenofMelchisedek said:
t's not that conspiracy theories are wrong...it's that satan is good at slight of hand. So every institution has an off color joke of an enemy that's there to make money off the fear of the people.
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This is what people don't seem to understand. The average Christian lacks critical thinking/analysis abilities. They seem to be sheep that follow whatever shepherd feeds their fears.

Jesus tells us to judge the fruit. The results. Jesus doesn't tell us to hammer home an ideology and ignore bad fruits of that behaviour.

But then again he taught those things in parables.... not in literal black and white sentences.... so most Christians these days ignore the teachings of Jesus.
 
1still_waters said:
If there is a conspiracy, it's not about microchips/RFD/etc, it's not about NSA NWO, it's not about 911 truth.

It's about people who can, with a few keyboard strokes, shut down the banks, transfer the wealth, shut down commerce, shut down infrastructure, control military weapons, and hold the entire world hostage to their demands all while hiding anonymously behind a keyboard.

911 truth, nsa, nwo, rfid chips, and the like are just things causing people to chase their tails, as the real potential "conspiracy" flies under the radar.
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It's probably a good thing for you to know that anonymous, last time I checked, aren't interested in making average Joe's life worse. They state their motives as transparency in corporatism and to uphold complete freedom of speech. That's the mainstream focus and it would have been proven in the methods and means of many of their digital attacks.

It would probably be better for humanity on the whole if the current financial model and corporate practices were shown to be as worthless and disadvantageous as they seem to be.
 
Jhana said:
It's probably a good thing for you to know that anonymous, last time I checked, aren't interested in making average Joe's life worse. They state their motives as transparency in corporatism and to uphold complete freedom of speech. That's the mainstream focus and it would have been proven in the methods and means of many of their digital attacks.

It would probably be better for humanity on the whole if the current financial model and corporate practices were shown to be as worthless and disadvantageous as they seem to be.
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Lol that's what they say.
Everyone trying to gain power spouts off about altruistic ideals as a means to gain favor of the masses.
America's founding fathers did all this talk of everyone created equal, as they also allowed slavery and slaughtered native Americans.

People are so easily deceived by revolutionaries with altruistic rhetoric. If the rhetoric is loud enough it drowns out the evils they do. <--Pretty sure that quote is gonna be bookmarked and held in the archives. *rolls my eyes*
 
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Lol that's what they say.
Everyone trying to gain power spouts off about altruistic ideals as a means to gain favor of the masses.
America's founding fathers did all this talk of everyone created equal, as they also allowed slavery and slaughtered native Americans.

People are so easily deceived by revolutionaries with altruistic rhetoric. If the rhetoric is loud enough it drowns out the evils they do. <--Pretty sure that quote is gonna be bookmarked and held in the archives. *rolls my eyes*
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I don't feel deceived, since I don't hold a belief of opinion about them as fact. I'm simply stating what they state. T o say that it is true or untrue would be an assumption. Whether they have ulterior agendas, I haven't witnessed. I do however recognize that the current financial model is unstable. And on the grand scale of things, these two - anonymous, and financial institutions - seem they will play a part somehow.

That's all.
 
1still_waters said:
The group known as ANONYMOUS may be leading a coming worldwide revolution done by hackers. They will seize control by hacking financial institutions, government institutions, and centers of commerce. It may be the first ever world revolution done by technology, and not done by weapons, and military.

Every leader of a revolution needs to find a way to gain trust of the population. How are the ANONYMOUS lead hackers going to gain trust?

I suggest they are grooming our trust through proliferation of numerous conspiracy theories. They want us to trust our governments less, and to trust them more. That way when they hack, and seize control of government, finances, and commerce, they'll be viewed as liberators, and not oppressors.

They've been busy the last few years trying to win our trust through various altruistic looking missions.

2011: The Year Anonymous Took On Cops, Dictators and Existential Dread

2011: The Year Anonymous Took On Cops, Dictators and Existential Dread | Threat Level | Wired.com

Anonymous has taken on governments, banks, and religion as you can see from the link above. This could only be the beginning.

They may have already done a dry run to communicate their message to the masses once they take everything over. They've already hacked the Emergency Broadcast System.

This Is Not a Test: Emergency Broadcast Systems Proved Hackable

This Is Not a Test: Emergency Broadcast Systems Proved Hackable | Threat Level | Wired.com

This should be concerning to those who buy into, and proliferate various conspiracy theories. They could be using you to further their own agenda. What is that agenda?

Their agenda may be way worse. They've been linked to Occupy Wall Street, which in fact is VERY socialist Remember that whole war against the 1%?

Occupy Wall Street And Anonymous: Turning A Fledgling Movement Into A Meme

Occupy Wall Street And Anonymous: Turning A Fledgling Movement Into A Meme


Just be careful folks, before you go supporting all of these theories. You may unknowingly be helping some very corrupt and devious socialists groom the world for their evil takeover.
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When I first heard of Anonymous, I thought, "finally, somebody to counteract the Illuminati". Then I came to my senses & realized that in order for world govts to tighten power & take away rights, they had to have an excuse to do it. And viola! Anonymous steps out on the world stage.....

They aren't against the illuminati...... they were created by them, just like our "lying leaders" & the U.N. "created" the story of weapons in Iraq.

It's a triple purpose:
1. To create an illusion for world govt to consolidate nations for world safety & peace.
2.To identify those who blindly join Anonymous as enemies of the state & arrest them."Drawing them out of hiding", if you please.
3. Identify those in govt & armed forces that can't be trusted & eliminate them..... like those that passed secrets to Wikileaks. :)

These things are created all the time....remember the so-called "gun march" on Washington last year? I bet the NSA got a lot of intel on that lil' piece of work! ;)
 
Stephen63 said:
When I first heard of Anonymous, I thought, "finally, somebody to counteract the Illuminati". Then I came to my senses & realized that in order for world govts to tighten power & take away rights, they had to have an excuse to do it. And viola! Anonymous steps out on the world stage.....

They aren't against the illuminati...... they were created by them, just like our "lying leaders" & the U.N. "created" the story of weapons in Iraq.

It's a triple purpose:
1. To create an illusion for world govt to consolidate nations for world safety & peace.
2.To identify those who blindly join Anonymous as enemies of the state & arrest them."Drawing them out of hiding", if you please.
3. Identify those in govt & armed forces that can't be trusted & eliminate them..... like those that passed secrets to Wikileaks. :)

These things are created all the time....remember the so-called "gun march" on Washington last year? I bet the NSA got a lot of intel on that lil' piece of work! ;)
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'Anonymous' is probably not nearly as anonymous as people think... ;)

( Another play on the gullibility of people? )

:)
 
A round of applause for Stephen and Gary, thank you for using the eyeballs God gave you! *standing ovation*
 
Rachel, I know there's idiots in the world, but you're pigeonholing an entire demographic of people that enjoy obscure news for recreation. There's a difference between what you see portrayed about a group of people, and the way those people actually are, like when you aren't watching. =P
 
Plotting is a part of human nature, whether it is for the good or for the bad. But there's people out there that is trying to make a fast buck and will go through the extreme to make it. Like for an example, the Monsanto bio-tech company creates GMO foods that isn't any good for bodies but they know it. It causes erectile dysfunction in men and which they has some affiliation with the Pfizer pharmaceutical company that is the creator of Viagra. Monsanto sell us the ailments, while their affiliations sell us the cure; what a pair they are, or really it is one.

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First I have one word for these folks that dislike Truthers: MK Ultra. However to stay on the topic of the thread the only thing I heard about the composition of Anons is from former CIA members is the suggestion that many of the people part of this group are formal Navy Intelligence officiers fighting in the way they are skilled at against the oppressors of Freedom all over the world and they closely work with Wikileaks. That's all I have on this topic.
 
Dusk said:
First I have one word for these folks that dislike Truthers: MK Ultra.
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as i pointed out elsewhere...the irony of conspiracy theorists appealing to MKUltra as a 'real conspiracy' is that MKUltra was -not- exposed by the conspiracy theorists!

in fact the conspiracy theorists have -never- exposed a real conspiracy...they are too busy chasing after red herrings...which has to make you wonder who is -really- behind the active promotion of such effective -distractions- from the real cases of corruption...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
as i pointed out elsewhere...the irony of conspiracy theorists appealing to MKUltra as a 'real conspiracy' is that MKUltra was -not- exposed by the conspiracy theorists!

in fact the conspiracy theorists have -never- exposed a real conspiracy...they are too busy chasing after red herrings...which has to make you wonder who is -really- behind the active promotion of such effective -distractions- from the real cases of corruption...
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So I guess You have never heard of Eric Snowden?
 
Anonymous are CIA (or equivalent) shills. "Best way to control the opposition is to lead it".
 
Married_Richenbrachen said:
Anonymous are CIA (or equivalent) shills. "Best way to control the opposition is to lead it".
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Anonymous plays the same game Intelligence agencies do. They both have each other infiltrated. I'm not rooting for either side but I think it's a really interesting chess game they have going with each other
 
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